[SheLion]

Are smokers tired of being controlled yet? Over a legal product????

[SheLion]

[nyconse]

Michigan does not have enough problems with the highest unemployment rate in the country, let's make it harder to have jobs. Maybe they should worry about attracting jobs than more regulation.

[cripplecreek]

Once they manage to force smokers to quit by way of taxation they'll simply turn their attention to something else.

[FlingWingFlyer]

Try requiring workers to be HIV free and watch how fast your ass gets sued.

[wvobiwan]

Fascist alert! Michiganistan moves up on my list of states to avoid. Just behind Mass. and California now, unfortunately I have to go to Boston on business often.

The legacy of decades of Democrat corruption and organized crime control of government in the 'common-wealth' (what a HUGE LIE that term is) of Massholia is awe inspiring. I imagine it's like visiting a Soviet republic at the hight of the Cold War.

[DumpsterDiver]

Are smokers tired of being controlled yet?

Everybody must be controlled!!

"Everyday our staff tell patients who use tobacco to quit who are overweight to begin a diet and exercise program," said Bill Rietscha, Vice President of Facilities for Spectrum Health. "We can't say that with credibility while smelling of tobacco ourselves when our health care workers are waddling blobs of cellulite."

[RandallFlagg]

Heh! They also skrooed the non smokers with this.

They'll have to work longer shifts to accomodate the lack of personnel.

[Gabz]

Unlike Weyco and Scott's at least it is only during their shifts...........they are not being threatedned with being fired for what they do outside of work.

Additionally these are private employers, it is not the government doing it, so while I don't like such a policy, I have to respect their right to make the rules of employee conduct during working hours.

[Lexington Green]

Defend Freedom - Start Smoking

[sunvalley]

Okay, I'll be the bad guy.

I am a nurse at a pediatric hospital. Our hospital has decided to go smoke-free beginning January 1. The hospital is offering smoking cessation classes for all employees and will also be offering smoking cessation aids. The employees can get up to three months of Zyban or patches.

Because I take care of kids with asthma and other pulmonary issues, I see the wisdom in this. Smoke is very aggravating to kids with asthma. I have seen kids be weaned to getting breathing treatments every four hours, then have a parent come in stinking of smoke, and the kids is back in ICU on continuous breathing treatments. I have also taken care of kids who are admitted constantly and the parents can't seem to grasp that smoking around the kids has a direct effect on their health.

On the other hand, I realize that it isn't easy to quit, and I can't imagine how some parents will cope. It you have a seriously ill child who may die, walking outside to smoke may be the only vice the parents have at such a stressful time (the parents will not be allowed to smoke on hospital property either).

We all know it is detrimental, but in this case, I feel the benefits will help many ill kids.

BTW, I am a smoker.

[dakine]

Private Company? Should have all rights to say if their employees can smoke...same as any other private business...

[ccmay]

My company doesn't hire smokers, period. They tend to be lazy losers, more interested in their next fix than the work at hand, and a drag on the health insurance.

-ccm

[slugbug]

"The staffs of both hospitals will need to arrive without smelling of smoke"



If they smoke at home (and even if they don't but someone else in the home smokes), the smell is in all their clothes, most likely in their hair, etc. so I don't see how this will happen unless they make them shower at the hospital and wear hospital laundered scrubs...

[mysterio]

Looks like Michigan wants an even bigger staff shortage at their hospitals. I'll make sure and never go there on vacation.

[LADY J]

Next on the list - anyone seen going to McDonalds & eating junk food will be fired!!

[bannie]

"First, they came for the Jews; but I wasn't a Jew, so I didn't care........................

[WVNan]

The crusade against tobacco puts the lie to those who say that nothing can be done about the drug problem.

[Old Professer]

"Everyday our staff tell patients who use tobacco to quit," said Bill Rietscha, Vice President of Facilities for Spectrum Health. "We can't say that with credibility while smelling of tobacco ourselves."

And this from the same mindset that forces AIDS counselors to be HIV positive and Alcohol Awareness counselors to be reformed drunks in order to qualify for employment.

[eXe]

I hate to say it, but I would do as I please, Smoke before work, go off to lunch and smoke, and come back. No one tells me what to do off the clock.

More smokers need to adopt this attitude.

These people are trying to control every aspect of our lives and because smoking is "bad" now, everyone just runs along with it like sheep.

[Raycpa]

Are smokers tired of being controlled yet? Over a legal product????

Isn't it an axiomatic smoker principle that they can go to a smoking employer? And isn't it also a principle that owners should determine smoking policy?

We all know of course smokers really don't care about property rights, its all about addiction and ability to smoke everywhere anytime. Its pure selfishness and property rights is simply a useful tool.