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Michigan: Hospitals require workers be smoke-free (More hard news for smokers)
woodtv.com ^ | Sep 28, 2006

Posted on 09/30/2006 8:41:28 AM PDT by SheLion

GRAND RAPIDS -- Spectrum Health and Saint Mary's Health Care will require all their employees to not use tobacco at any time during their work shift beginning January 1.

The staffs of both hospitals will need to arrive without smelling of smoke, and they can't use any tobacco products until they leave hospital property after their shift.

Metro Health is also joining in the Smoke-Free Work Day Every Day campaign.

In 2003, the Grand Rapids hospitals became the first in the country to jointly declare their hospital campuses smoke-free. Today, more than 30 Michigan hospitals have smoke-free campuses.

This takes it a step further.

The three hospitals are working together to help employees quit the habit between now and the first of the year. The hospitals said the main reason for making this decision was to improve patient care.

"Everyday our staff tell patients who use tobacco to quit," said Bill Rietscha, Vice President of Facilities for Spectrum Health. "We can't say that with credibility while smelling of tobacco ourselves."

Tom Karel, the Vice President of Human Resources for Saint Mary's, echoed that. "We have delivered this message to each person who walks in a door at Saint Mary's, and this is the next step in a long term effort to ensure the health of our employees, patients, visitors and our entire community."

Among the other reasons the hospitals cited were the health risks to their employees and the reduced productivity related to smoking.

Not everyone is thrilled with the plan. Midge Birdsall has worked in health care for more than 30 years. She knows smoking isn't good for her, but she said the decision to quit should be hers and hers alone.

"I'm not doing something illegal so I have a problem with them telling me how to run my lifestyle when it's not affecting my work," she said. "I'm not sure how they can tell me I can't go off campus on my break. I guess I'll find out January 1."

24 Hour News 8 talked with a local labor law attorney who said the hospitals can fire employees who disobey the rules.

It's a growing trend. In January 2005, KVCC banned smoking for all new full-time employees. Lansing-based Weyco, a company that administers health benefits, also went smoke-free. Several employees left who refused to take a test to determine if they're using tobacco.


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To: SheLion

"First, they came for the Jews; but I wasn't a Jew, so I didn't care........................


101 posted on 09/30/2006 10:51:08 AM PDT by bannie (HILLARY: Not all perversions are sexual.)
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To: SheLion

Thanks for the ping!


102 posted on 09/30/2006 10:54:22 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: BW2221

I've heard this one before. Someone even tried it on me once. Before I had a chance to reply, my BOSS jumped this person.

My smoke breaks are my ONLY breaks.


103 posted on 09/30/2006 10:55:49 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: SheLion

The crusade against tobacco puts the lie to those who say that nothing can be done about the drug problem.


104 posted on 09/30/2006 10:57:46 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: DumpsterDiver

..."Everyday our staff tell patients who are overweight to begin a diet and exercise program,"...

Check out the hospital "Dieticians" next time your forced to be in one. I have yet to see one that really looked healthy.

Our local hospital here in upstate NY just began a similar program, NO SMOKING ON HOSPITAL GROUNDS, PERIOD!


105 posted on 09/30/2006 11:01:45 AM PDT by panaxanax
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To: panaxanax

"Our local hospital here in upstate NY just began a similar program, NO SMOKING ON HOSPITAL GROUNDS, PERIOD!"




Our hospital did the same back in July...so now all the staff goes across the street to the local university to smoke in their parking lots...


106 posted on 09/30/2006 11:10:51 AM PDT by slugbug
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To: BW2221; Gabz; leda
I am a smoker, and I will put my productivity up against anybody's.

I once solved a vexing math problem in my sleep - I had been working on it for months, and without the solution, the project would have failed.

That solution, BTW, is currently in service in three wars, defending our troops.

Just because I am standing around, or sitting under a tree, or sleeping, who are you to determine if I am working?

My time is billed for, like a lawyers - every increment on a project is billable.

Should I have billed them for the sleep time, when I solved that particular problem?

(I did not, but we had a debate about it. LOL)

Of course, if you work in retail or something, I guess you are paid to be there, not to think. Maybe that is the problem.

107 posted on 09/30/2006 11:17:43 AM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: patton

We all know that it has nothing to do with smoking. It's all about control.

I smoke for 2-3 minutes and get back to work. I don't blow 45 minutes sitting on my duff because it's too far to the smoking area from the break room.
I'll exit, light up, walk past the smoking area, put it out, and re-enter through the other door.
I call this, "Taking the scenic route."
And those are my only breaks.


108 posted on 09/30/2006 11:25:08 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Great cartoon. I hadn't seen that one. It really tells it like it is. Thanks!

I got a bunch.

109 posted on 09/30/2006 11:41:40 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: RandallFlagg; patton

smoke breaks??? what are those???

i'm a vicim of the "drug free school zones" :(


110 posted on 09/30/2006 11:43:05 AM PDT by leda (Life is always what you make it!)
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To: BW2221; DManA
Hate to say this because I know many of you are smokers, but drive by any office or factory and look at people taking "smoke breaks" while their fellow employees are working.

Well, before the smoke natzies came along, smokers had their own smoking lounges, out of site and out of the view of the population.

Now that they are forced outside, what else do you expect of them? 

111 posted on 09/30/2006 11:43:44 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: leda

Yes, you are.


112 posted on 09/30/2006 11:45:38 AM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: BW2221; no dems
To provide a more pleasant atmosphere for patients (their customers) and because smokers are less productive (30 minutes per shift for smoke breaks), missing more time because of illness, etc.

That's a crock!



113 posted on 09/30/2006 11:45:53 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: WVNan
The crusade against tobacco puts the lie to those who say that nothing can be done about the drug problem.

It was on Fox News today that Congress passed a bill that all allergy pills (Sudefed, etc) have to be kept behind the pharmacy counters now and you have to show a picture ID to buy it.  All because of the meth makers!  They use something in these sinus pills to make meth. 

A few bad apples spoiled it for the whole bunch.

114 posted on 09/30/2006 11:48:39 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: patton; BW2221; Gabz; leda
I am a smoker, and I will put my productivity up against anybody's.

I will as well.  And most of the people on my ping list.  All active, productive people and they smoke!

I worked once with a fat guy who didn't smoke.  I smoked.  He was off sick a lot.  I never missed work from even having so much as a cold, and I live in northern Maine where the winters are brutal.


115 posted on 09/30/2006 11:51:53 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: leda

Ugh!
I'm sorry.


116 posted on 09/30/2006 11:52:08 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: SheLion; RandallFlagg; patton

oh i'm one of those teachers you never hear about...

i do not take a lunch break, my kids are so needy i need
to stay with them through lunch

i do not take a planning period, i accompany my students
to their specials classes because of their needs

i arrive about 30 mins before most of the staff

i volunteer for duties after school so i leave later too

and i do not get "smoke breaks" :(

i guess you could say i'm pretty productive ;)


117 posted on 09/30/2006 12:10:40 PM PDT by leda (Life is always what you make it!)
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To: SheLion
It was on Fox News today that Congress passed a bill that all allergy pills (Sudefed, etc) have to be kept behind the pharmacy counters now and you have to show a picture ID to buy it.

Heh! The lady pharmacist and I get a kick out of that law. I always walk by and whisper, "Hey, lady! Ya wanna buy some ex-lax?"
or, "I got's some Alka-Seltzer...CHEAP! Good stuff!"
I leave her in hysterics.
118 posted on 09/30/2006 12:10:45 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: leda

Frankly, you work too much. It pisses me off.


119 posted on 09/30/2006 12:13:09 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: leda
i guess you could say i'm pretty productive ;)

Oh boy!  You surely are!  And you must love your job to put up with the long hard hours.

My heart goes out to you.

120 posted on 09/30/2006 12:14:54 PM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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