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Michigan: Hospitals require workers be smoke-free (More hard news for smokers)
woodtv.com ^ | Sep 28, 2006

Posted on 09/30/2006 8:41:28 AM PDT by SheLion

GRAND RAPIDS -- Spectrum Health and Saint Mary's Health Care will require all their employees to not use tobacco at any time during their work shift beginning January 1.

The staffs of both hospitals will need to arrive without smelling of smoke, and they can't use any tobacco products until they leave hospital property after their shift.

Metro Health is also joining in the Smoke-Free Work Day Every Day campaign.

In 2003, the Grand Rapids hospitals became the first in the country to jointly declare their hospital campuses smoke-free. Today, more than 30 Michigan hospitals have smoke-free campuses.

This takes it a step further.

The three hospitals are working together to help employees quit the habit between now and the first of the year. The hospitals said the main reason for making this decision was to improve patient care.

"Everyday our staff tell patients who use tobacco to quit," said Bill Rietscha, Vice President of Facilities for Spectrum Health. "We can't say that with credibility while smelling of tobacco ourselves."

Tom Karel, the Vice President of Human Resources for Saint Mary's, echoed that. "We have delivered this message to each person who walks in a door at Saint Mary's, and this is the next step in a long term effort to ensure the health of our employees, patients, visitors and our entire community."

Among the other reasons the hospitals cited were the health risks to their employees and the reduced productivity related to smoking.

Not everyone is thrilled with the plan. Midge Birdsall has worked in health care for more than 30 years. She knows smoking isn't good for her, but she said the decision to quit should be hers and hers alone.

"I'm not doing something illegal so I have a problem with them telling me how to run my lifestyle when it's not affecting my work," she said. "I'm not sure how they can tell me I can't go off campus on my break. I guess I'll find out January 1."

24 Hour News 8 talked with a local labor law attorney who said the hospitals can fire employees who disobey the rules.

It's a growing trend. In January 2005, KVCC banned smoking for all new full-time employees. Lansing-based Weyco, a company that administers health benefits, also went smoke-free. Several employees left who refused to take a test to determine if they're using tobacco.


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To: madison10

The answer is Grand Rapids is in Kent county. And yeah, it's starting to get a little too politically correct around here.


21 posted on 09/30/2006 9:12:10 AM PDT by kjo
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To: cripplecreek
Once they manage to force smokers to quit by way of taxation they'll simply turn their attention to something else.

Well, states can't balance their budgets without smoker's tax dollars.  They spew they want smoke free yet they use cigarette taxes to balance their budgets.  They talk out of both sides of their filthy mouths.

I think all smokers should start rolling their own.  A heck of a lot cheaper and no big taxes.  And all the grocery stores and Smoke Shops in town sell bags of tobacco and the filtered tubes and the rolling machines.  It sure paid off for me!

22 posted on 09/30/2006 9:13:37 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: wvobiwan

Fascist alert! Michiganistan moves up on my list of states to avoid. Just behind Mass. and California now, unfortunately I have to go to Boston on business often.

Don't forget to add MAINE to your list!



The legacy of decades of Democrat corruption and organized crime control of government in the 'common-wealth' (what a HUGE LIE that term is) of Massholia is awe inspiring. I imagine it's like visiting a Soviet republic at the hight of the Cold War.


23 posted on 09/30/2006 9:15:42 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion

Defend Freedom - Start Smoking


24 posted on 09/30/2006 9:16:43 AM PDT by Lexington Green (Are we as free as we used to be?)
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To: All

Check out the Newsletter, updated weekly for news in your area:
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25 posted on 09/30/2006 9:17:04 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: DumpsterDiver
"Everyday our staff tell patients who use tobacco to quit who are overweight to begin a diet and exercise program," said Bill Rietscha, Vice President of Facilities for Spectrum Health. "We can't say that with credibility while smelling of tobacco ourselves when our health care workers are waddling blobs of cellulite."

I hate to say this, but the staff in our hospitals are pretty hefty!  They will be next on the agenda.  LOSE WEIGHT OR ELSE!

26 posted on 09/30/2006 9:18:35 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion
Okay, I'll be the bad guy.

I am a nurse at a pediatric hospital. Our hospital has decided to go smoke-free beginning January 1. The hospital is offering smoking cessation classes for all employees and will also be offering smoking cessation aids. The employees can get up to three months of Zyban or patches.

Because I take care of kids with asthma and other pulmonary issues, I see the wisdom in this. Smoke is very aggravating to kids with asthma. I have seen kids be weaned to getting breathing treatments every four hours, then have a parent come in stinking of smoke, and the kids is back in ICU on continuous breathing treatments. I have also taken care of kids who are admitted constantly and the parents can't seem to grasp that smoking around the kids has a direct effect on their health.

On the other hand, I realize that it isn't easy to quit, and I can't imagine how some parents will cope. It you have a seriously ill child who may die, walking outside to smoke may be the only vice the parents have at such a stressful time (the parents will not be allowed to smoke on hospital property either).

We all know it is detrimental, but in this case, I feel the benefits will help many ill kids.

BTW, I am a smoker.
27 posted on 09/30/2006 9:18:38 AM PDT by sunvalley
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To: neverdem
Al-Qaida chief asks nuclear experts to join jihad

Here's another existential threat to worry about while obsessing about health.

Oh I know it.  So much going on in the world that is such high priority, yet these anti-smoking idiots have tunnel vision.  All they care about is to get people from smoking.

If we are blown to bits one day, it won't matter one iota if we ever smoked or not!


28 posted on 09/30/2006 9:20:33 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: RandallFlagg
Heh! They also skrooed the non smokers with this.

They'll have to work longer shifts to accomodate the lack of personnel.

As if they don't already!  Nursing staffs are in short demand today I hear.  Pity.

29 posted on 09/30/2006 9:22:14 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: Gabz
Additionally these are private employers, it is not the government doing it, so while I don't like such a policy, I have to respect their right to make the rules of employee conduct during working hours.

The three hospitals are working together to help employees quit the habit between now and the first of the year. The hospitals said the main reason for making this decision was to improve patient care.

Yes, but do you realize how miserable they are going to make it on the employees who smoke?  Trying to coerce them into quitting before the 1st of the year? 

30 posted on 09/30/2006 9:24:39 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: Gaffer

LOL! Agreed.


31 posted on 09/30/2006 9:24:58 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: SheLion

Private Company? Should have all rights to say if their employees can smoke...same as any other private business...


32 posted on 09/30/2006 9:25:43 AM PDT by dakine
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To: madison10
Mainly Wayne, Washtenaw and now, whatever county Grand Rapids is in.

That would be Kent County. The geniuses on the city commission are about to toughen smoking laws throughout the city too.

33 posted on 09/30/2006 9:26:21 AM PDT by Dolphy
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To: sunvalley
We all know it is detrimental, but in this case, I feel the benefits will help many ill kids.

BTW, I am a smoker.

Well, I respect what you say.  But what is next?  Fat Classes?  It just never ends.

And I am sure most educated smokers today would never smoke around the kids.  (Did I say that?)

34 posted on 09/30/2006 9:27:01 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion

A lot of people are rolling their own now. My cousin says rolling his own runs to about $11 a carton. He buys the filter tubes and has a machine that rolls 2 at a time. He's pretty good at pumping out a carton of cigarettes in about 20 minutes.


35 posted on 09/30/2006 9:28:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: nyconse
More hard news for smokers

Hopefully, more hard news for Granholm.
36 posted on 09/30/2006 9:28:58 AM PDT by no dems (I'll take a moral Mormon over a demonic Democrat or repugnant RINO anyday.)
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To: Dolphy

That's too bad. We used to look as the Western side of Michigan as a place to run to when it got too bad over here near Lake Erie as far as Liberalism.

Is Grand Rapids where there was so much gang trouble a few years ago, or was that Battle Creek?


37 posted on 09/30/2006 9:29:39 AM PDT by madison10
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To: sunvalley

Is your hospitol perfume-free?


38 posted on 09/30/2006 9:29:53 AM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: no dems

I guess I should have explained why I say that. Anything that makes people unhappy at election time, they tend to take it out on the folks in office.


39 posted on 09/30/2006 9:29:58 AM PDT by no dems (I'll take a moral Mormon over a demonic Democrat or repugnant RINO anyday.)
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To: Dolphy

In Washtenaw county it's illegal to smoke in any place of business and there's a push to make it illegal on the property of any place of business.


40 posted on 09/30/2006 9:30:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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