Posted on 05/22/2006 4:26:39 PM PDT by no dems
O.K. Freepers, here’s the list of Pubbies who voted with the Dems Thursday to give Social Security benefits to Illegal Aliens.
Brownback (KS)
Chafee (RI)
DeWine (OH)
Graham (SC)
Hagel (NE)
Lugar (IN)
Martinez (FL)
McCain (AZ)
Specter (PA)
Stevens (AK)
Voinovich (OH)
I must admit that I was shocked by Brownback’s and Lugar’s votes.
our American people are treated like dirt and yet we're giving away SS and benefits and education to these illegals......
What if the vote was for reparations? Or for Sharia law to replace the Constitution?
A member of CONgress has the right to lose a constituent's support from just one bad vote on legislation.
If illegals were not part of the equation, the social security obligations to pay versus revenue collected would be even in 2018. Taking the max limit off will extend the break even year to 2024. The problem boils down to the high income earning/high FICA tax paying "boomers" transitioning to consumers of social security. Add the illegals into the mix and you greatly increase the number of consumers while only replacing a fraction of the contributors due to low earning power of unskilled illegal alien labor.
Illegals will accelerate the inevitable train wreck that is coming with the retirement of the boomers. The break even dates will happen sooner if illegals are given access to social security. Doubling FICA rates won't fix it either. There aren't enough high income earners available to replace the revenue. The inevitable consequence is collapse of social security into total insolvency. Plan accordingly.
Boy, won't that person be surprised when he retires! SS checks coming in each week for 10 grand!
The really sick part is that you can't even legally find out if your SS number is being contributed to illegally.
Now here is another interesting VOTE.... from this morning..
49-49 with 2 not voting (Enzi (R-WY)
Rockefeller (D-WV) )
U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 109th Congress - 2nd Session
as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate
Vote Summary
Question: On the Amendment (Cornyn Amdt. No. 4097 )
Vote Number: 151 Vote Date: May 25, 2006, 10:17 AM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Amendment Rejected
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 4097 to S. 2611 (Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006 )
Statement of Purpose: To modify the requirements for confidentiality certain information submitted by an alien seeking an adjustment of status under section 245B.
Vote Counts: YEAs 49
NAYs 49
Not Voting 2
Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State
``(e) Confidentiality of Information.--
``(1) IN GENERAL.--Except as provided in paragraph (2) or (3) or as otherwise provided in this section, or pursuant to written waiver of the applicant or order of a court of competent jurisdiction, no Federal agency or bureau, or any officer or employee of such agency or bureau, may--
``(A) use the information furnished by the applicant pursuant to an application filed under paragraph (1) or (2) of subsection (a) for any purpose other than to make a determination on the application;
``(B) make any publication through which the information furnished by any particular applicant can be identified; or
``(C) permit anyone other than the sworn officers and employees of such agency, bureau, or approved entity, as approved by the Secretary of Homeland Security, to examine individual applications that have been filed.
``(2) REQUIRED DISCLOSURES.--The Secretary of Homeland Security and the Secretary of State shall provide the information furnished pursuant to an application filed under paragraph (1) or (2) of subsection (a), and any other information derived from such furnished information, to--
``(A) a duly recognized law enforcement entity in connection with a criminal investigation or prosecution or a national security investigation or prosecution, in each instance about an individual suspect or group of suspects, when such information is requested by such entity; or
``(B) an official coroner for purposes of affirmatively identifying a deceased individual, whether or not the death of such individual resulted from a crime.
``(3) INAPPLICABILITY AFTER DENIAL.--The limitation under paragraph (1)--
``(A) shall apply only until an application filed under paragraph (1) or (2) of subsection (a) is denied and all opportunities for appeal of the denial have been exhausted; and
``(B) shall not apply to use of the information furnished pursuant to such application in any removal proceeding or other criminal or civil case or action relating to an alien whose application has been granted that is based upon any violation of law committed or discovered after such grant.
``(4) CRIMINAL PENALTY.--Any person who knowingly uses, publishes, or permits information to be examined in violation of this subsection shall be fined not more than $10,000.
sure sounds reasonable to me.. I believe Sen Cornyn is on target on the who immigration issue.
NINE Republicans that voted against this Ammendment:
Specter (R-PA)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
Graham (R-SC)
Hagel (R-NE)
Brownback (R-KS)
Chafee (R-RI)
DeWine
ANYONE SEE A PATTERN HERE?
And the GRAND DADDY AMMENDMENT of them all... An Ammendment by Sen Cornyn which passes
U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 109th Congress - 2nd Session
as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate
Vote Summary
Question: On the Amendment (Cornyn Amdt. No. 3965 As Modified )
Vote Number: 128 Vote Date: May 17, 2006, 06:53 PM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Amendment Agreed to
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 3965 to S. 2611 (Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006 )
Statement of Purpose: To modify the conditions under which an H-2C nonimmigrant may apply for an employment-based immigrant visa.
Vote Counts: YEAs 50
NAYs 48
Not Voting 2
Not I. Ever since he converted to Catholicism and joined the Opus Dei, he has been one of the biggest fans of illegals.
Has anyone taken the time to compare the HOUSE version to what the Senate has its current form? It is going to be a VERY interesting Conference IF the Senate gets a bill passed..
David
Am I the only one with TWO Republican nonconservative Senators on the list. Damn, I should have worked harder for Pierce!! (He wanted to eliminate the Department of Education- where have I heard that one before?)
No, there are others out there. In California we have Boxer and Feinstein. Basicly, we're screwed.
I support the elimination of the Department of Education. It's been a dismal failure and everyone knows it but the DoE leadership, the teacher's unions and our elected leaders.
And for once, we have to applaud Collins, Snowe, and Warner.
To collect SS there must be money paid to the number account. If the illeagals use a bogus account they can never collect any thing against that account.
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I have wondered about that, too.
That's a pretty conservative voting record, DO.
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Yeah, it's a shame Brownback chose to throw it down the drain at this point.
We need to spread the word about what is in this bill so that these vermin will be forced to crawl back into their holes or stand and defend it. Here are just a few points that ALL AMERICANS NEED TO KNOW THAT ARE IN THIS BILL:
***Allows illegal aliens to collect Social Security benefits for work they did while in illegal status & fraudulently using someone else's Social Security Number!
***Illegals will get to go to any university and pay "in state" tuition, while we citizens will have to pay the out of state tuition!
***Illegals will get to pick any three of the last five years of income in which to pay taxes on!
***There is no way to verify who has been here for 5 years and Homeland Security will have to take their word for it!
***Illegal workers will be paid a higher "prevailing" wage than our own citizens doing the same work and will have protections from getting fired!
I'm sure you don't really care what anyone else thinks. Your principles are pure and undefiled. And like the spinster who could never find a suitor worthy of her hand in marriage, you and the other undefiled ones can never stoop to form a political or governing coalition with anyone that might deviate in one degree from your view of conservative orthodoxy.
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Are you, by any chance, a GOP staffer? Your snide answers make me think so. Is it so wrong for us common folks to want to maintain the sovereignty of this nation?
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