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Anthropologist resigns in 'dating disaster'
Worlnetdaily ^ | February 19, 2005 | unattributed

Posted on 02/19/2005 7:36:30 AM PST by Woodworker

Panel says professor of human origins made up data, plagiarized works

A flamboyant anthropology professor, whose work had been cited as evidence Neanderthal man once lived in Northern Europe, has resigned after a German university panel ruled he fabricated data and plagiarized the works of his colleagues. Reiner Protsch von Zieten, a Frankfurt university panel ruled, lied about the age of human skulls, dating them tens of thousands of years old, even though they were much younger, reports Deutsche Welle. "The commission finds that Prof. Protsch has forged and manipulated scientific facts over the past 30 years," the university said of the widely recognized expert in carbon data in a prepared statement.

Protsch's work first came under suspicion last year during a routine investigation of German prehistoric remains by two other anthropologists. "We had decided to subject many of these finds to modern techniques to check their authenticity so we sent them to Oxford [University] for testing," one of the researchers told The Sunday Telegraph. "It was a routine examination and in no way an attempt to discredit Prof. von Zieten." In their report, they called Protsch's 30 years of work a "dating disaster."

Among their findings was an age of only 3,300 years for the female "Bischof-Speyer" skeleton, found with unusually good teeth in Northern Germany, that Protsch dated to 21,300 years. Another dating error was identified for a skull found near Paderborn, Germany, that Protsch dated at 27,400 years old. It was believed to be the oldest human remain found in the region until the Oxford investigations indicated it belonged to an elderly man who died in 1750. The Herne anthropological museum, which owned the Paderborn skull, did its own tests following the unsettling results. "We had the skull cut open and it still smelt," said the museum's director. "We are naturally very disappointed."

Protsch, known for his love of Cuban cigars and Porsches, did not comment on the commission's findings, but in January he told the Frankfurter Neue Presse, "This was a court of inquisition. They don't have a single piece of hard evidence against me." The fallout from Protsch's false dating of northern European bone finds is only beginning.

Chris Stringer, a Stone Age specialist and head of human origins at London's Natural History Museum, said: "What was considered a major piece of evidence showing that the Neanderthals once lived in northern Europe has fallen by the wayside. We are having to rewrite prehistory." "Anthropology now has to revise its picture of modern man between 40,000 and 10,000 B.C.," added Thomas Terberger, an archaeologist at the University of Greifswald. Frankfurt University's president, Rudolf Steinberg, apologized for the university's failure to curb Protsch's misconduct for decades. "A lot of people looked the other way," he said.


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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
How exactly is he qualified to examine biological evidence when he is not a biologist?

Likewise; how will this MJ jury decide the case if they are not all pedophiles??

681 posted on 02/23/2005 1:00:12 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Ichneumon

Or, we might be looking for that Alpha male becasue we ARE GOD generated!


682 posted on 02/23/2005 1:02:52 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Thatcherite
(Here is YOUR original statement at #512:

d. Jesus was not omniscient (if you believe that Jesus was omniscient it would be interesting to know at what age he acquired this remarkable ability, or did he have it from the moment of conception?)


How does it compare with what YOU'VE just replied?

As I have now said a couple of times the point is not whether I think that Jesus was omniscient, it is whether someone who claims to be a Christian is biblically forced to accept Jesus's omniscience. I don't accept that the biblical passages that you have posted make it compulsory for a Christian to think that Jesus was omniscient.

683 posted on 02/23/2005 1:08:47 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: shubi
...whether DNA was designed or not is immaterial to evolutionary biology.

Huh?

They WHY are the "E" so AGAINST it being discussed?

684 posted on 02/23/2005 1:11:21 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: shubi
Creation isn't in evolution, so any conclusion they draw, no matter how logical it appears, is fallacious.

Ergo:

Evolution isn't in creation, so any conclusion they draw, no matter how logical it appears, is fallacious.

And this statement proves your point; right?

685 posted on 02/23/2005 1:13:38 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Thatcherite

Don't worry.

Kids born into Dems households seem to make it out to the GOP tent after they learn to think a bit, and quit 'feeling' all the time.

(And get their first paycheck!)


686 posted on 02/23/2005 1:16:18 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Woodworker
A real dating disaster...
687 posted on 02/23/2005 1:17:03 PM PST by WindOracle
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To: Dimensio

I'll say YES before looking at it.

EVERYTHING could be more efficient.

Does it fit into the memory you've budgetted it for?


688 posted on 02/23/2005 1:18:29 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Dimensio

I looked, and the individual lines of code are fairly well documented as to what is going on, but the overall function of the device was unclear to me.


689 posted on 02/23/2005 1:21:43 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: longshadow

In these fast moving threads, you need some kind of edge to be able to land on the number you want.



HMMmmm........


690 posted on 02/23/2005 1:22:57 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: PatrickHenry
ANTI-CHRIST!
 
 
What does the BIBLE say??
 
 



1 John 2:18-26
 18.  Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.
 19.  They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.
 20.  But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.
 21.  I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth.
 22.  Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist--he denies the Father and the Son.
 23.  No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
 24.  See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father.
 25.  And this is what he promised us--even eternal life.
 26.  I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray.
 
1 John 4:1-3
  1.  Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
  2.  This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
  3.  but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
 

2 John 1:7-10
  7.  Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.
  8.  Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully.
  9.  Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.
 10.  If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.


 
Are there MAJOR groups that say that JESUS is NOT the CHRIST??
 
Avoid them!!!
 


666!
 
Revelation 13:11-18
 11.  Then I saw another beast, coming out of the earth. He had two horns like a lamb, but he spoke like a dragon.
 12.  He exercised all the authority of the first beast on his behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed.
 13.  And he performed great and miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of men.
 14.  Because of the signs he was given power to do on behalf of the first beast, he deceived the inhabitants of the earth. He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived.
 15.  He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.
 16.  He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead,
 17.  so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
 18.  This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.
 
(Notice NO mention of 'anti-christ' in Revelation!)
 

691 posted on 02/23/2005 1:24:31 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Thatcherite
ID makes the claim that it is possible to detect intelligence by examining the information content of patterns. If the pattern is specified and complex, it is designed. ID uses only natural methods in the determination of design.

Likewise...

"E" types make the claim that it is possible to detect EVOLUTION by examining the information content of fossils. If the fossil is close in appearence to another one, it is EVOLVED. EVOLUTION uses only natural methods in the determination of EVOLUTION.

692 posted on 02/23/2005 1:28:11 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: PatrickHenry
Wouldja believe it was an accident?

Yeah... sure...

Like I've already said......

693 posted on 02/23/2005 1:29:25 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: longshadow

Amen!!!


694 posted on 02/23/2005 1:30:13 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Dimensio

You need ANOTHER program; one that will randomly change some bits in the one you are wondering about, and we'll wait for a more efficient one to show up.

In this memory hungry world we live in, resources are stretched thin. A meaner, leaner code would DEFINITELY have an advantage over slower, more convoluted stuff that will probably overflow its stack at some point in the future anyway.


695 posted on 02/23/2005 1:37:07 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
I suppose that I should explain the ultimate intent of the code, so that a proper assessment the efficiency and effectiveness. The program was written for a class on computer interfacing. Provided are two debounced pushbuttons, eight logic switches (0-7) and eight LED outputs (two LEDs per output, signifying either logic high or logic low).

The program, at start, will read a binary value from the switches and, if the value is not "00", will output the binary value on the switches in a "marquee" fashion, scrolling the binary value on the LEDs from right to left. If a '00' is read, the program jumps to an error routine.

Upon reading either of the pushbutton inputs, an interrupt is triggered, however the interrupt routine is not to execute until AFTER the pushbutton is released. IF pushbutton 1 is pressed, the program is to 1. determine whether or not the CURRENT switch value is a valid BCD representation (and enter an error routine if it is not), then determine the transpose of the BCD of the switch value, then determine which value is lower (transpose or original), start from the lower and count up to the higher by the magnitude of the two BCD digits from the switches (ie, the magnitude for a read of 24 would be 4-2=2, so it would count up by 2).
If the SECOND pushbutton is displayed, the program is to change the direction of the marquee in the main background program (from left to right to right to left, and vice versa) and change the count order of the first pushbutton routine, either from lower to higher to the other, or from higher to lower to the other.
Once either interrupt routine finishes, the program returns to the background routine of the scrolling marquee (using whatever value it loaded from the switches originally, not any new value).

I should also mention that when wiring things, in addition to the aforementioned hardware, I also made use of one 74LS00 logic chip.

I should strip out the comments to make it an even better analogy, but I'd really like to see someone with no understanding of assembly coding -- or even computer programming at all -- to assess 1) whether or not my program will even do what I just laid out and 2) whether or not my program is efficiently coded for the task.
696 posted on 02/23/2005 1:41:51 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Elsie

s...whether DNA was designed or not is immaterial to evolutionary biology.
eHuh?

eThey WHY are the "E" so AGAINST it being discussed?

No one is against first life being discussed. Origin of life is just not in the theory of evolution or necessary to understand the fact of evolution. I think you know this. You certainly have been informed of these facts prior to this post.


697 posted on 02/23/2005 2:36:09 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: Elsie

Yes, evolutionary biology is unable to draw any conclusions based on the theory of evolution about creation. Similarly, those that are arguing various types of creation can not draw any conclusions about evolution.

They are two completely separate subjects (except in the fevered minds of the creationists).


698 posted on 02/23/2005 2:39:49 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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Round-number-in-base-69.9 PLACEMARKER.


699 posted on 02/23/2005 3:07:19 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: Debugging Windows Programs by McKay & Woodring)
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To: shubi

fevered mind marker


700 posted on 02/23/2005 3:08:30 PM PST by D Edmund Joaquin (Mayor of Jesusland)
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