Do the evo's have ANY idea how silly they look on this thread. It's hilarious!
Posted on 02/19/2005 7:36:30 AM PST by Woodworker
Panel says professor of human origins made up data, plagiarized works
A flamboyant anthropology professor, whose work had been cited as evidence Neanderthal man once lived in Northern Europe, has resigned after a German university panel ruled he fabricated data and plagiarized the works of his colleagues. Reiner Protsch von Zieten, a Frankfurt university panel ruled, lied about the age of human skulls, dating them tens of thousands of years old, even though they were much younger, reports Deutsche Welle. "The commission finds that Prof. Protsch has forged and manipulated scientific facts over the past 30 years," the university said of the widely recognized expert in carbon data in a prepared statement.
Protsch's work first came under suspicion last year during a routine investigation of German prehistoric remains by two other anthropologists. "We had decided to subject many of these finds to modern techniques to check their authenticity so we sent them to Oxford [University] for testing," one of the researchers told The Sunday Telegraph. "It was a routine examination and in no way an attempt to discredit Prof. von Zieten." In their report, they called Protsch's 30 years of work a "dating disaster."
Among their findings was an age of only 3,300 years for the female "Bischof-Speyer" skeleton, found with unusually good teeth in Northern Germany, that Protsch dated to 21,300 years. Another dating error was identified for a skull found near Paderborn, Germany, that Protsch dated at 27,400 years old. It was believed to be the oldest human remain found in the region until the Oxford investigations indicated it belonged to an elderly man who died in 1750. The Herne anthropological museum, which owned the Paderborn skull, did its own tests following the unsettling results. "We had the skull cut open and it still smelt," said the museum's director. "We are naturally very disappointed."
Protsch, known for his love of Cuban cigars and Porsches, did not comment on the commission's findings, but in January he told the Frankfurter Neue Presse, "This was a court of inquisition. They don't have a single piece of hard evidence against me." The fallout from Protsch's false dating of northern European bone finds is only beginning.
Chris Stringer, a Stone Age specialist and head of human origins at London's Natural History Museum, said: "What was considered a major piece of evidence showing that the Neanderthals once lived in northern Europe has fallen by the wayside. We are having to rewrite prehistory." "Anthropology now has to revise its picture of modern man between 40,000 and 10,000 B.C.," added Thomas Terberger, an archaeologist at the University of Greifswald. Frankfurt University's president, Rudolf Steinberg, apologized for the university's failure to curb Protsch's misconduct for decades. "A lot of people looked the other way," he said.
"I aint got the time! I have homework, too! (night classes, going for an EE. )"
Yikes, another engineer that won't understand scientific method. This is getting scary. What Bible College offers and engineering degree?
You know that electricity is just a theory?
Hmm, think I touched a nerve?
"What could possibly reduce an essentially good person to behaving the way they do?"
Fear. They are afraid of going to H E double hockey sticks, of losing their friends in church, of going against the authority of their pastor, of having their wife leave them if they don't believe in the literal Word etc.
A lot of it is cognitive dissonance caused by fear. Fear is a key factor in a lot of mental illness. The sad thing is that for Christians, Jesus alleviates fear through love and gives us peace in all circumstances. This is why Christian belief often heals mental illness.
You touched a nerve with a cattle prod. LOL
Do the evo's have ANY idea how silly they look on this thread. It's hilarious!
Golly, I wish I had't made that comment about "cut-and-paste". Really.
Huh? Where did you get *your* degree, Shubi? You have a Ph.D, right?
I have a Dr. in ministry-six years of seminary.
Anthropologists are closer to the semi-science of sociology than they are to the real science of biology. So, we have that going for us. ;-)
Everyone is good at something. Race is really good at cutting and pasting.
Interesting.
Actually, if he were actually good at it, he'd cut-and-paste material that was both valid and relevant.
Yeah, he can manage the following:
invalid and irrelevant
valid and irrelevant
invalid and relevant
Its just the remaining possibility (as you've pointed out) that proves out of his reach. ;)
At pain of the rack, and the purification of the stake, no doubt.
And he was complaining about YOU spamming. LOL!
...modern science is turning up a possible reason why the religious right is flourishing and secular liberals aren't: instinct. It turns out that our DNA may predispose humans toward religious faith.
You can't *stop* evolution, Itchi, you can only hope to contain it. :)
To do something "no longer" implies that you were doing it in the first place. I must have missed that bit.
I was hoping that you'd start showing us some valid science at some stage, rather than just cut-and-pasting or paraphrasing a pile of junky discredited arguments from YEC websites and publications.
BTW the "I never read Kent Hovind" when you'd posted a big section of text that matched word-for-word with his website was superb. If Race didn't exist those of us on the side of mainstream science would have to make him up.
Not nearly as funny as the creationists who continually post lies and misinformation which has been repeatedly debunked, all the while complaining of "spamming", as well as those who offer them loud hosannahs for it.
Not to mention the total refusal to retract or correct the misstatements.
How do you know anything has been debunked? Have you taken the time to study the rebuttals in depth, or are you just an evo groupie?
And what is it with all the ex-Navy guys being atheists and evolutionists? Seems every evo profile I look at reveals the person to be ex-Navy. Oh - and that person usually owns a cat.
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