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Paleontology Shaken: Organic Molecules Found in 66-Million-Year-Old Dinosaur Bones
Scitech Daily ^ | February 11, 2025 | University of Liverpool

Posted on 02/13/2025 12:05:10 PM PST by Red Badger

Close up of the hip bone of an Edmontosaurus. Credit: University of Liverpool

Liverpool researchers’ discovery of collagen in fossilized bones could provide new insights into dinosaurs.

For years, scientists widely believed that the fossilization process destroyed all original organic molecules, leaving fossils devoid of their original biological material.

However, a groundbreaking study led by the University of Liverpool has provided strong evidence that Mesozoic fossils, including dinosaur bones and teeth, still contain preserved organic materials.

Using advanced mass spectrometry and other analytical techniques, researchers detected remnants of collagen in the hip bone of an Edmontosaurus, a duck-billed dinosaur. This discovery helps settle a long-standing debate that has persisted for over 30 years.

The study, published in the journal Analytical Chemistry, used several techniques, including protein sequencing, to detect and characterize bone collagen in the 22-kilogram fossil. The fossil is an exceptionally well-preserved Edmontosaurus sacrum excavated from Upper Cretaceous strata of the South Dakota Hell Creek Formation. It is part of the University of Liverpool’s collections and offers a unique opportunity for cutting-edge analyses.

The fossil is an exceptionally well preserved Edmontosaurus sacrum. Credit: University of Liverpool Key Findings and implications

Professor Steve Taylor, chair of the Mass Spectrometry Research Group at the University of Liverpool’s Department of Electrical Engineering & Electronics, said:

“This research shows beyond doubt that organic biomolecules, such as proteins like collagen, appear to be present in some fossils.

“Our results have far-reaching implications. Firstly, it refutes the hypothesis that any organics found in fossils must result from contamination.

“Secondly, it suggests that cross-polarized light microscopy images of fossil bones, collected for a century, should be revisited. These images may reveal intact patches of bone collagen, potentially offering a ready-made trove of fossil candidates for further protein analysis. This could unlock new insights into dinosaurs– for example revealing connections between dinosaur species that remain unknown.

“Lastly, the findings inform the intriguing mystery of how these proteins have managed to persist in fossils for so long.”

Hip bone of an Edmontosaurus. Credit: University of Liverpool

The research not only appears to resolve a long-standing scientific debate but also opens further avenues for studying ancient life, offering a glimpse into the biochemical preservation of fossils of extinct creatures.

Collaboration across disciplines

The study brought together experts from multiple disciplines:

Researchers from UCLA contributed to the study, using tandem mass spectrometry to detect and quantify—for the first time—the amino acid hydroxyproline, which is specific to collagen when found in bone, thus confirming the presence of decayed collagen.

Researchers from the University of Liverpool’s Mass Spectrometry Research Group conducted protein sequencing and mass spectrometry tests.

Specialists from the University’s Materials Innovation Factory carried out additional analyses to confirm the results.

The Centre for Proteome Research at the University of Liverpool identified fragments of collagen alpha-1, the main form of collagen in bone tissue.

Reference:

“Evidence for Endogenous Collagen in Edmontosaurus Fossil Bone”

by Lucien Tuinstra, Brian Thomas, Steven Robinson, Krzysztof Pawlak, Gazmend Elezi, Kym Francis Faull and Stephen Taylor, 17 January 2025, Analytical Chemistry.

DOI: 10.1021/acs.analchem.4c03115


TOPICS: History; Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: aminoacid; collagen; cretaceous; dinosaur; dinosaurs; edmontosaurus; fossil; godsgravesglyphs; hellcreekformation; maryschweitzer; mesozoic; organic; organicmaterial; paleontology; southdakota
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To: Ikeon

The question isn’t “should we”, it’s how fast can they make me a velociraptor. I need a support animal bad.


21 posted on 02/13/2025 12:44:12 PM PST by BipolarBob (My dogs names are Timex and Rolex. Yep, they're watch dogs.)
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To: Red Badger

I would expect Paleontology to be stirred by this.


22 posted on 02/13/2025 12:45:47 PM PST by posterchild
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To: fishtank

What do I know?

You could be right.

I didn’t test the material for dating :)


23 posted on 02/13/2025 12:46:09 PM PST by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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To: posterchild

I’ve seen this movie.

It doesn’t end well......................


24 posted on 02/13/2025 12:47:25 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: sauropod

For Doug


25 posted on 02/13/2025 12:54:03 PM PST by sauropod (Make sure Satan has to climb over a lot of Scripture to get to you. John MacArthur Ne supra crepidam)
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To: dp0622

I thought Carbon Dating was the name of a dating site for old folks.


26 posted on 02/13/2025 12:55:04 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: Red Badger

We’ve seen in the case of the woolly mammoth carcasses found in Siberia frozen more or less continuously since their deaths only 50,000 years ago that it takes well preserved tissue samples to be able to extract an entire DNA sequence.

And this isn’t well-preserved tissue, it’s “decayed collagen.” Which means even “could provide new insights” might be overly ambitious. They might learn some bits and bobs but not enough to even dream of resurrecting a dinosaur.


27 posted on 02/13/2025 12:56:54 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: Red Badger; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks, this is a confirming study of something that is A) old B) gets saddled on by moonbats, and C) no, paleontology hasn't been shaken by this.

28 posted on 02/13/2025 12:57:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Red Badger

Jurassic Park, here we come!


29 posted on 02/13/2025 1:04:23 PM PST by Eli Kopter (Gentle elves set light to lead the Faroes on the starry way from age to age - U. of Faroe Islands)
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To: Red Badger

Incredible find.


30 posted on 02/13/2025 1:04:38 PM PST by plain talk
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To: PLMerite

That’s not creepy at all…

/sarc


31 posted on 02/13/2025 1:06:06 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Red Badger

“Jurassic Park” might be opening near you in the not too distant future.


32 posted on 02/13/2025 1:13:25 PM PST by Will88 ((The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.))
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To: Ikeon

What if they clone the dinosaur and it didn’t look anything like what they thought it would in fact what if it turned out to be much worse and more dangerous than they ever imagined. Wouldn’t that be funny?


33 posted on 02/13/2025 1:24:32 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Donald John Trump. First man to be Elected to the Presidency THREE times since FDR.)
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To: fishtank

Soft tissue discovered around 1991. Fascinating. Really the simplest conclusion is that they ain’t millions of years old.
That 6600 is looking pretty solid.


34 posted on 02/13/2025 1:26:41 PM PST by Pocketdoor
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To: frank ballenger

I had In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida on 8-Track.


35 posted on 02/13/2025 1:27:05 PM PST by ComputerGuy ( )
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To: Red Badger
still contain preserved organic materials

That means they can be barbecued!

36 posted on 02/13/2025 1:33:10 PM PST by fruser1
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To: Red Badger

This is not the first time organic soft tissue has been found in dinosaur fossils.


37 posted on 02/13/2025 2:00:19 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Eli Kopter

I’ve always assumed that “Jurassic Park” is fiction. But just to be on the safe side, I have avoided traveling to Costa Rica, just in case any of the dinosaurs on Isla Nublar make it to the mainland.


38 posted on 02/13/2025 2:29:03 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

I think I saw some, back in my drinking days. LOL.


39 posted on 02/13/2025 2:43:13 PM PST by Eli Kopter (Gentle elves set light to lead the Faroes on the starry way from age to age - U. of Faroe Islands)
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To: fishtank

‘ They’re not 66 million years old.

Maybe 66 hundred.’

As written in the epic of Gilgamesh.

Open your eyes people.

All the dinosaurs were killed in the flood because the ark wasn’t big enough.

God made it look older to try to test our faith.

And David Koresh will return so get yourself ready.


40 posted on 02/13/2025 2:56:04 PM PST by Fuzz
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