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BBC: Protein links T. rex to chickens ~ ummm tasty....
BBC ^ | Thursday, 12 April 2007, 19:27 GMT 20:27 UK | Paul Rincon Science reporter, BBC News

Posted on 04/12/2007 1:57:11 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

By Paul Rincon


Science reporter, BBC News


T. rex thighbone   Image: Science


Protein extracted from 68 million-year-old T. rex bones has shed new light on the evolutionary link between dinosaurs and birds.

Researchers compared organic molecules preserved in the T. rex fossils with those of living animals, and found they were similar to chicken protein.

The discovery of protein in dinosaur bones is a surprise - organic material was not thought to survive this long.

A US team of researchers have published the finding in Science journal.

The team says their technique could help reveal evolutionary relationships between other living and extinct organisms.

The finding is consistent with the idea that birds can trace a direct evolutionary line to dinosaurs.

The goal of obtaining sequences either from proteins or DNA for extinct [organisms] has been a long-standing goal

Brooks Hanson, Science journal

The proteins are original organic material from the dinosaur's soft tissue, and not contamination, the scientists argue.

According to theories of fossilisation, original organic material is not thought to survive as long as this; finding them in a fossil this old is a genuine surprise. They are by far the oldest such molecules extracted from fossils.

"It has always been assumed that preservation of [dinosaur bones] does not extend to the cellular and molecular level," said co-author Mary Schweitzer, from North Carolina State University in Raleigh, US.

"The pathways of cellular decay are well known for modern organisms. And extrapolations predict that all organics are going to be gone completely in 100,000 years, maximum."

Brooks Hanson, an editor at Science journal said: "The goal of obtaining sequences either from proteins or DNA for extinct [organisms] has been a long-standing goal to test evolutionary links and processes, or even functional information."

The work builds on an earlier discovery of soft tissue - including blood vessels - by Dr Schweitzer's team in the same, incredibly well-preserved Tyrannosaurus rex fossils.

Exceptional preservation

The dinosaur remains - which include a skull, both thigh bones and both tibiae (shin bones) - were unearthed from rocks in the Hell Creek Formation of eastern Montana, US.

The fossils were buried under at least 1,000 cubic metres of loose sandstone, interspersed with muds, which are thought to represent ancient stream channel sediments.

Hell Creek, Montana  Image: Science
The bones were buried under 1,000 cubic metres of rock in Montana

The proteins found in the T. rex bones belong to the elastic connective fibres - known as collagen - that support other tissues in the body.

Collagen makes up most of the organic material in bone, which consists of both minerals and protein. It is the same substance injected into the lips, and other areas of the body, in cosmetic surgery procedures.

When minerals are removed from human bone, a collagen matrix is left behind. The US scientists performed the same operation on the T.rex fossil, and found what appeared to be residual traces of collagen.

The findings of protein in the bones were confirmed by mass sepctrometry, a sensitive technique that identifies chemicals by their atomic mass.

It was able to show the T.rex material contained sequences of amino acids - protein building blocks - typical of collagen.

Chicken-like

When the scientists compared the protein sequence pattern to those of living animals in a database, it was found to be structurally similar to chicken collagen, and there were also similarities with frog and newt protein.

Dr Schweitzer said the similarity to chickens was exactly what one would expect given the relationship between modern birds and dinosaurs."

Dr Jack Horner, a co-author from the Museum of the Rockies in Bozeman, Montana, explained that extraordinarily well-preserved fossils such as the ones in question were probably not unique.

"To get specimens like that involves excavating enormous amounts of material, covered with tens of feet of rock," Dr Horner said.

"The T.rex was under a thousand cubic yards of rock and therefore in a position not to have been invaded by bacteria or groundwater," he said.

"I think we're learning an important lesson here - that if we do get specimens like this, we spend a lot of time getting as deep into the sediment as we can in places where there has been very little atmospheric or water contamination."

Dinosaurs, excluding bird lineages, disappeared from the face of the planet 65 million years ago. The reptiles are thought to have been killed off by an asteroid impact which struck off the present-day Yucatan peninsula in Mexico.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: callingcolsanders; catastrophism; godsgravesglyphs; maryschweitzer; science
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1 posted on 04/12/2007 1:57:13 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: VaBthang4
No, it's true!


3 posted on 04/12/2007 2:03:22 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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4 posted on 04/12/2007 2:03:56 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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To: VaBthang4

Are you opposed to anything in particular or just every single word in the article from Protein to Mexico?


5 posted on 04/12/2007 2:04:03 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Parker v. DC: the best court decision of the year.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Gonna need a lot of bleu cheese for those wings.


6 posted on 04/12/2007 2:05:18 PM PDT by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: VaBthang4

T.rex - just a very large gallinaceous fowl.

Makes sense to me. Ever see a chicken chasing down a bug?


7 posted on 04/12/2007 2:07:04 PM PDT by alloysteel (For those who cannot turn back time, there is always the option of re-writing history.)
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To: alloysteel
I Suppose it’s true. You know, this T-Rex tastes a lot like chicken, like rattlesnake does.
barbra ann
8 posted on 04/12/2007 2:11:30 PM PDT by barb-tex (Why replace the IRS with anything?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
According to theories of fossilisation, original organic material is not thought to survive as long as this; finding them in a fossil this old is a genuine surprise.

Bookmarking to read the evolutionist spin.

9 posted on 04/12/2007 2:19:56 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: KarlInOhio

I am opposed to anything that vaguely supports the adult fairy tale called evolution.

No damn T-Rex shrunk down over eons to become a friggin chicken!

Oi...


10 posted on 04/12/2007 2:28:13 PM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Ping the Tyranasaurus Chicken List!

Warning this is a high volume ping list!

11 posted on 04/12/2007 2:31:23 PM PDT by frithguild (The Freepers moved as a group, like a school of sharks sweeping toward an unaware and unarmed victim)
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To: NormsRevenge

buffalo wings ping!


12 posted on 04/12/2007 2:31:47 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: frithguild; onyx; Brad's Gramma

Tyranasaurus Chicken List....we must have a ping list for everything by now....LOL!


13 posted on 04/12/2007 2:33:56 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Brad's Gramma

I’m sure relieved you included BG on this ping list. :0)


14 posted on 04/12/2007 2:36:02 PM PDT by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: VaBthang4
I am opposed to anything that vaguely supports the adult fairy tale called evolution.

Are you also opposed to things which specifically support evolution, or only that which vaguely supports it?

17 posted on 04/12/2007 2:56:24 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: VaBthang4
"No (deleted) T-Rex shrunk down over eons to become a {deleted) chicken!"

That is not [directly] what they are saying...and it's not what they may assume the suggested similarity may mean.

18 posted on 04/12/2007 3:04:43 PM PDT by BlueDragon (never hire on to go out to sea, on a boat that has shiny pump handles!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv
Dinosaurs, excluding bird lineages, disappeared from the face of the planet 65 million years ago. The reptiles are thought to have been killed off by an asteroid impact which struck off the present-day Yucatan peninsula in Mexico.

certain peoples must have very long memories:

Angkor wat is in northwest Cambodia.The initial design and construction of the temple took place in the first half of the 12th century, during the reign of Suryavarman II (ruled 1113–c. 1150). Dedicated to Vishnu, it was built as the king's state temple and capital city.

19 posted on 04/12/2007 3:22:09 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: onyx

OK....LOL!


20 posted on 04/12/2007 3:26:01 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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