Joe Rogan Podcast: Michio Kaku Explains Evidence For Intelligent Life In The Universe| August 9, 2022 | Joe Rogan Clips
Posted on 08/16/2022 7:51:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
Joe Rogan Podcast: Michio Kaku Explains Evidence For Intelligent Life In The Universe| August 9, 2022 | Joe Rogan Clips
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Transcript 0:00 [Is it] possible that we're the most advanced 0:02 life form in the universe 0:04 probably not 0:06 uh because on average 0:09 well first of all we've discovered 5 000 0:12 planets orbiting other stars 0:14 and of the 5 000 planets maybe 20 of 0:17 them are earth-like 0:19 and our galaxy contains 100 billion 0:22 stars 0:23 each one on average with one planet or 0:26 more going around it so the probability 0:29 of life in the galaxy is almost a 0:31 hundred percent 0:32 a hundred percent life but what about 0:34 intelligent life that's probably the 0:36 bottom line yeah was that's what i was 0:37 getting to because all the bottlenecks 0:40 all the the issues that keep all the 0:42 other animals on this planet besides us 0:45 from being the intelligent manipulative 0:48 creatures that we are the way we 0:49 manipulate our environment i mean and 0:52 our constant thirst for innovation that 0:54 doesn't seem to exist in other 0:56 animals um yeah so in that sense we 1:00 could be special to the earth but in 1:02 outer space there could be other 1:04 different kinds of life forms dependent 1:05 upon different factors for sure like the 1:08 octopus the porpoise spiders it's 1:11 possible to imagine other life forms 1:12 that could also be intelligent if 1:14 there's an evolutionary pressure on them 1:16 but 1:17 dinosaurs were around for 200 million 1:20 years and to the best of our knowledge 1:23 not a single one 1:25 became intelligent they got lazy 1:28 now we humans we've been around for 200 1:30 000 years that's nothing nothing 200 000 1:34 years and we became intelligent the 1:36 dinosaurs had 200 million years to 1:38 become intelligent none of them made it 1:41 so 1:42 it's not 1:43 common 1:44 on earth 1:45 but there's enough planets out there 1:47 that it's most likely common in the 1:49 universe for some sort of an intelligent 1:52 innovative species 1:54 to exist in not just one planet but 1:57 maybe an infinite number of planets and 2:00 just remember the dinosaurs did not have 2:02 a space program 2:03 and that's why they're not here today 2:06 no space program not intelligent enough 2:09 to have a space program so to have a 2:11 space program could be an evolutionary 2:13 bottleneck 2:14 if your species does not develop a space 2:16 program sooner or later you're gonna get 2:18 wiped out and you gotta develop a space 2:20 program before you get hit with an 2:21 asteroid that's right that's right and 2:23 that's where we we are now either before 2:25 you get hit with an asteroid or 2:27 to become 2:29 one of those 2:30 societies what is it 2:33 level one where you're able to uh 2:36 do something about super volcanoes right 2:39 do something about 2:40 a type one civilization could deflect uh 2:43 deflect asteroids deflect meteors uh 2:46 they're masters of their planet that's 2:48 type one and that's what we need to get 2:50 to and then we need to eventually become 2:52 interstellar so that we can 2:55 escape if our star burns out if there's 2:58 a supernova at a nearby galaxy there's 3:00 something that happens that kills us all 3:02 we at least can propagate the universe 3:05 right and that's type two 3:07 and we actually found evidence of 3:09 something that may look like a type two 3:10 civilization though that's very very 3:12 speculative there's something called 3:14 tabby's star 3:16 that the decreases in intensity by 20 3:20 periodically now that's incredible stars 3:23 don't simply diminish by 20 3:26 in intensity after a few years it's 3:28 intermittently intermittent right 3:31 so the theory is that maybe there's a 3:33 dyson sphere a type 2 civilization 3:35 creates a sphere around the mother star 3:39 to absorb all the energy from the mother 3:42 star that's called a dyson sphere 3:44 and so the thinking was that maybe a 3:46 dyson sphere is orbiting 3:48 around tabby's star diminishing sunlight 3:51 by 20 3:53 well that's a theory 3:55 some people think it's comet dust or a 3:57 smudge on a telescope but there it is 20 4:00 reduction in starlight in a star 4:04 that which is unheard of now if a planet 4:06 goes in front of the mother star 4:08 sunlight diminishes by less than a 4:10 percent if jupiter goes in front of our 4:12 sun 4:13 star light from our sun diminishes by 4:15 one percent 4:17 but 20 percent reduction in starlight is 4:20 incredible that's why some people think 4:22 that's evidence of an intelligent object 4:26 orbiting the star diminishing star light 4:28 by 20 4:29 is that the best evidence that we have 4:31 in in terms of the observable universe 4:34 that's right that's the only evidence we 4:36 have of a possible type 2 civilization 4:39 which is called a dyson sphere a 4:41 gigantic sphere that uses up all the 4:44 energy of the mother star 4:46 how do you think the... [clip truncated]
This was posted last week, but I'd make a wild guess that it's from that much older interview, and that Joe Rogan and/or his employees didn't post it, or this channel, it's merely pranked to look like his.
That’s not evidence, it’s just a plausibility argument.
Indeed. There is no evidence. Not yet.
“it’s just a plausibility argument.”
Worse than that, it is a homo sapiens-centric plausibility argument.
Truly intelligent aliens will have broken all the “rules” of homo sapiens “science” millions if not billions of years ago...and they are not going to politely knock on the door.
“some people think...” “possibly...” “it’s possible to imagine...”
What's not evidence, the evidence he cited?
It's about time.
As an aside, Garry Nolan says about the UFO/UAP "beings": he doesn't know what they are and he is suspicious that what we are seeing might be a contrivance of an even more intelligent and more elusive creature (he doesn't think the so-called "grays" are actually real, but are perhaps AI beings, biological robots, or semi-material projections).
20% reduction in starlight from their Sun would mean they have solved Global Warming!....................
There's evidence, it's just modest. I recall the outcry around here when it was pointed out that the number of known exoplanets was going to increase by multiples due to the improvement of observatory technology. Speculation is, there isn't any other intelligent life because you don't want there to be any.
Garry Nolan of Stanford says there is evidence...solid, material evidence. And he has some of it in his lab.
Yeah, as opposed to people who make absolute claims, which you'd also object to, I'm sure, unless it is yourself.
I’m still trying to find Intelligent Life on this planet.
Intelligent life elsewhere? We don’t even have intelligent life HERE!?!
You might even say, there’s evidence, it just isn’t publicly available...yet.
The variable brightness of Tabby’s star has already been proven to be circumstellar dust.
:^) Yeah, it could be an AI 'society' (or more than one) that is expanding across the galaxy and has been for thousands of years. The up side to that could be, they don't need atmospheres and biospheres to survive, and are mining asteroids and such. That's the optimistic version.
Heh, or they could have solved it by ridding their society of the Chicken Littles and other demagogues.
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