Posted on 11/24/2012 8:17:46 AM PST by SunkenCiv
Neanderthals and other extinct human lineages might have been ancient mariners, venturing to the Mediterranean islands thousands of years earlier than previously thought.
This prehistoric seafaring could shed light on the mental capabilities of these lost relatives of modern humans, researchers say.
Scientists had thought the Mediterranean islands were first settled about 9,000 years ago by Neolithic or New Stone Age farmers and shepherds...
For instance, obsidian from the Aegean island of Melos was uncovered at the mainland Greek coastal site of Franchthi cave in layers that were about 11,000 years old, while excavations on the southern coast of Cyprus revealed stone artifacts about 12,000 years old...
Recently, research has hinted that seafarers may have made their way out to the Mediterranean islands even earlier, long before the Neolithic, and not only to isles close to the mainland, but to more distant ones as well, such as Crete.
For instance, stone artifacts on the southern Ionian Islands hint at human sites there as early as 110,000 years ago. Investigators have also recovered quartz hand-axs, three-sided picks and stone cleavers from Crete that may date back about 170,000 years ago. The distance of Crete about 100 miles (160 kilometers) from the mainland would have made such a sea voyage no small feat.
The exceedingly old age of these artifacts suggests the seafarers who made them might not even been modern humans, who originated between 100,000 and 200,000 years ago. Instead, they might have been Neanderthals or perhaps even Homo erectus.
(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...
It’s called a ‘hypothesis’.
I just figured it out. Your real name is James Shreeve.
Selections from Immanuel Velikovsky’s Worlds in Collision (1950)
http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/JNHDA/wic.htm
In the Ermitage Papyrus [Leningrad, 1116b recto] also, reference is made to a catastrophe that turned the ‘land upside down; happens that which never (yet) had happened.’
Of the three items you mentioned, 2 can be directly attributed to islam. (The Black Death was allegedly spread to Europe when muslims laid siege to a city and hurled an infected corpse over the wall. Rats and fleas escaped , carrying the disease with them. The burning of the Alexandrian Library was due to the fact that it contained pre-islamic knowledge and lore.)The Dark Ages can also be linked, if one works at it!
I don’t have links or articles to these theories; I just have heard it said over the years.
I wholeheartedly agree. I’d add that I think this is one of those ideas which came about as a result of teenaged boys hanging around, daring one another, and showing off.
The earliest known use of some sort of watercraft was about 800K ago, off of SE Asia, but there’s really no way (until someone figures out time travel) to know how far back it goes from there.
Great post!
There’s a wide range of different details in the many Flood stories, e.g., some have a Deluge, some don’t. The arrival of the Moon shows up in Greek Attica, but also in the Welsh Mabinogeon, among others. The Earth had tides before that — the Sun produces about 1/3 of the tides, yet another fact that destroys the “Rare Earth” crap — but the Moon was a wanderer, captured by the Earth; even without resort to ancients myths, the geology and fossil evidence shows this is so. This may seem odd to those who know of my deep interest in impact, but that’s how I roll. ;’)
I’m actually his cousin, Brian Indra Shreeve.
Thanks FN!
Perhaps those really aren’t setbacks, but necessary events to get us to where we are today.
The Ark would be all black and without a high pilot house.
Why is it that these guys never seem to take into account the fact that sea level was as much as 400 feet lower than it is now at various times? Also that in some periods the Mediterranean was sometimes two vast lakes, and at others had dried up completely. They could have walked or swam with some of these states. Anybody have some good mappings of those old periods. I read that there are salt deposits on the floor of the Med. that are 1,000 feet thick.
The Mediterranean last refilled five million years ago. Anyone who finds archaic human remains that old will next find the egress sign for their careers.
An ice age drop of 400 feet (or 800+ nearer the poles) didn’t cause dry land bridges to appear (apart from the Bering Strait, maybe some Arctic islands, but not Antarctica AFAIK) to link major landmasses or most offshore islands.
If the ocean was 400 feet lower as little as 20 to 40,000 years ago, than the Mediterranean would have also been about that much lower, as the Straits of Gibralter are at least that deep. I would like to see a map of the Med. with that much reduction in water level. I am sure it would show that there were islands not that far from main land at that time.
I think blam has a graphic or two about that.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2962614/posts?page=35#35
:’)
I've lost that lower sea level data.
I would like to see a map of the Med. with that much reduction in water level. I am sure it would show that there were islands not that far from main land at that time."
In their book, Noah's Flood Ryan and Pittman speak about their research near the mouth of the Gibralter and the gouged out areas on the floor that were obviously made by a 'waterfall' of water rushing into the Mediterranean.
I've speculated numerous times that the Mediterranean became blocked at Gibralter during the Ice Age and shrank to a very small size. The islands we know and see today were probably big land masses with many people. When the Ice Age ended and the Gibralter 'plug' broke, the waters in the Mediterranean began to rise sending refugees everywhere.
Everyone in the known world was talking about the rising waters. Noah began to build an ark...he didn't know how much the water would rise or how fast so he decided to build it on a mountain (Ararat) so that he could finish it before the water reached him.
The water in the Mediterannean rose enough that it broke the 'plug' at the Bosporus and flooded 500+ feet down into the Black Sea. The irrigation farmers (the whole area was very dry) around the once 'fresh water' Black Sea evacuated up the river valleys into Europe bringing farming and the Indo-European language with them into Europe. Some of the refugees may have ended up in China as the Tocharians.
Ect.
I've lost that lower sea level data.
I would like to see a map of the Med. with that much reduction in water level. I am sure it would show that there were islands not that far from main land at that time."
In their book, Noah's Flood Ryan and Pittman speak about their research near the mouth of the Gibralter and the gouged out areas on the floor that were obviously made by a 'waterfall' of water rushing into the Mediterranean.
I've speculated numerous times that the Mediterranean became blocked at Gibralter during the Ice Age and shrank to a very small size. The islands we know and see today were probably big land masses with many people. When the Ice Age ended and the Gibralter 'plug' broke, the waters in the Mediterranean began to rise sending refugees everywhere.
Everyone in the known world was talking about the rising waters. Noah began to build an ark...he didn't know how much the water would rise or how fast so he decided to build it on a mountain (Ararat) so that he could finish it before the water reached him.
The water in the Mediterannean rose enough that it broke the 'plug' at the Bosporus and flooded 500+ feet down into the Black Sea. The irrigation farmers (the whole area was very dry) around the once 'fresh water' Black Sea evacuated up the river valleys into Europe bringing farming and the Indo-European language with them into Europe. Some of the refugees may have ended up in China as the Tocharians.
Ect.
BTW, the Mediterannean has completely dried out over 40 times but, the last time was five million years ago.
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