Oh he's native born you betcha!
Posted on 04/20/2010 1:35:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Members from all three branches of the Federal government already know that Barack Hussein Obama is ineligible for the office of President. National leaders, to include members of the US Supreme Court, already know that Barack Hussein Obama is not a “natural born citizen” of the United States of America, and therefore, is ineligible for the office he currently holds.
What they don’t know is how long it will take for most Americans to figure it out, or what to do about it.
The diversionary search for an authentic birth certificate is ongoing and Obama has now spent in excess of $2 million in legal fees to keep that search alive.
Eric Holder’s Department of Justice continues to deploy taxpayer funded attorneys around the country to file dismissals on behalf of Obama, denying all American citizens access to the courts as a peaceful remedy, which only fuels the fire of discontent and the questions about Obama persist.
Michelle Obama states that Kenya is Barack’s “home country.” She knows, after twenty years with Barack. The Ambassador or Kenya has confirmed the same His family friends all know it, and are in fact quite proud of the fact that Americans had no hesitation in electing a “black man from Kenya” as President of the United States.
The US Supreme Court knows what the constitutional condition of “natural born citizen” means. Even the most far left member of that court, Justice Ginsberg, is on record proclaiming that a “natural born citizen” is a birth child of TWO legal US citizens.
Democrat Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi knows that Barack Hussein Obama is not eligible for the office of president, which is why she refused to certify the following language when certifying Obama as the DNC candidate for president in 2008.(continued)
(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...
I knew I had it filed away somewhere...
OBAMA RETAKES THE OATH
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/23/obama-spokesmans-debut-marked-by-discord/
“How is it transparent,” another reporter asked, “when you control the only image of the re-swearing - there’s nobody in there but four print reporters, there’s no stills, there’s no television? And the only recording that comes out, as I understand it, is one that a reporter made, not one that the White House supplied.”
“...it’ll be open season literally on whitey.”
An I suspect that “whitey” will return fire.......
Not at all. I was brought up to stand on the simple principal of right and wrong. It just seems that the principal in practiced by the minority of people today. We here at FR are passionate about what we believe and fear for our Country. Even taking the Tea Party movement and it's numbers, compared to the overall population we are just a speck. Sorry, maybe I'm just in a down mood. I want my Country back!
I am pretty sure that was the plan all along. That's why they are trying to shove every piece of Marxist wish-list they can as fast as they can.
Here I am at the Santa Rosa Tea Party in Calif holding my sign that read " SAVE OUR REPUBLIC. VOTE OUT THE SOCIALISTS AND DEPORT THE MARXIST. Hey that's funny, the paper whited out my sign. Well I guess It must not be true then.
and a lot of killing, dying and bloodshed, and for what? what amounts to a technicality.
the willingness on this thread, to kill other people is disturbing, and feeds our enemies. when they talk of hate, we need to look into our own mirrors.
wasn’t it Gandhi who declared the cause of equality one in which he was ready to die for, but NOT to kill for?
Sure - the lambs to the slaughter.
Are you a Lamb?
I’m not
Anytime you have legal counsel who puts his name on the document and then files with the state and the document then becomes part of the public domain, then that document has more credibility than a photograph on the internet. Ask any lawyer if they would risk losing their license by filing papers with the state without documented evidentiary backup. Ask Nancy Pelosi -- that signator of those 49 state affidavits.
She had legal counsel involved with her divorce papers. Her divorce lawyer would likely have required a copy of all necessary documents, including the birth certificate, for his file.
Barack Obama Sr was served with the divorce papers, and did not contest the divorce or anything in the divorce papers, including the statement that they had a child together, Barack Obama. And then the divorce papers were filed with the state of Hawaii, and have been part of the public domain for decades without objection or contestation from anyone, a divorce that was a necessary prerequisite for her subsequent marriage to Lolo Soetoro.
Any birth certificate at this point that lists anyone other than Barack Obama as his father will be highly suspect in light of those divorce papers on file.
He was served and had a chance to contest the divorce and any of the information therein. He did not. It was an uncontested divorce -- not uncommon. And the divorce papers were made public for all to see and know about, without objection.
Gandhi had the good fortune to be opposing the British in their late empire phase.
If he’d tried that happy happy stuff in Stalinist Russia he’d just be another unknown statistic.
no doubt. or tienenman square.
Thanks — I couldn’t have said it better.
Adding this to Monster Ping, along with ...
Tancredo to tea partiers: Send Obama back to Kenya
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=142825
Gibbs: ‘I could probably fill the better part of my afternoons responding to the lunacy’
—The Hill
Arizona House OKs Birther Bill
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2496602/posts
Justice Clarence Thomas: We’re ‘evading’ eligibility
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=142101
Does testimony hint at division behind Supreme Court’s doors?
Is Obama constitutionally eligible to serve?
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=98546
WND’s complete archive of news reports on the issue
Mayor joins chorus questioning if Obama ‘American’
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=141745
‘If you’re not willing to produce birth certificate, you’ve got something to hide’
Ridicule of Conspiracy Theories Focuses On Diffusing Criticism of the Powerful
http://www.infowars.com/ridicule-of-conspiracy-theories-focuses-on-diffusing-criticism-of-the-powerful
[Limited government requires mistrust of government.]
Are ABC, CBS, NBC, FactCheck, and N.Y. Times ‘birthers’ too?
McCain ‘birthers’: ABC, CBS, NBC, FactCheck, N.Y. Times
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=127362
Eligibility issue was huge in 2008 when Obama opponent was focus of attention
4 Supreme Court Cases define “natural born citizen”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2470873/posts
[In a roundabout way, the law is arguably Birther Too]
Nevertheless, your conclusion: "It’s why most of us now demand that Obama prove that he meets this criterion, or relinquish the office." is iffy.
“Since the British Nationality Act of 1730 [and subsequent British Nationality Act of 1948] conferred natural born subject status upon children born outside of the British dominion - there IS NO WAY the Founding Fathers would consider Obama to be natural born - citizen, yes ... natural born, no”
By that definition, naturalized Americans and Americans born to parents born in England were British subjects, and could be seized and made to serve in the British Army and Navy. And that was one of the causes of the War of 1812 - the US rejected that approach.
As you quoted, “(2) “Natural-born British subject” means a British subject who has become a British subject at the moment of his birth.”
Anyone born in the USA becomes an American citizen at birth, and by birth owes allegiance to the USA, unless their parents were visiting military or diplomats. Further, the Supreme Court has ruled that no actions taken by your parents can rob you of that citizenship - that once born in the USA, you need to take some positive, deliberate steps to reject citizenship.
If Barry had applied to citizenship in the UK, he could have become a citizen. This ‘automatic citizenship’ crap is crap - we fought a war over it. If a government cannot draft you by right of that ‘automatic citizenship’, then you are not.
If Barry had moved with his parents to Kenya and rejected US citizenship, he would be Kenyan. If they moved to the UK and Barry chose to live there, he could be drafted in the Royal Army. But he didn’t and he can’t. But the issue is where his natural allegiance lies based on birth - and earth to birthers, it is NOT the UK!
And it is not Kenya, since the Kenyan Constitution requires someone like Obama to reject American citizenship as an adult and formally claim Kenyan citizenship.
I know you disagree. That is OK.
But 50 states, the US voters, every member of Congress and every court that has heard a birther case agrees with me. The US Supreme Court refused to block Barry’s certification as President...they didn’t even hear the case.
So at this point, the burden of proof is on you. You need to show the US Constitution, beyond any reasonable doubt, meant to reject NBC for someone born in the USA with one foreigner as a parent.
It isn’t enough to say it is a possible interpretation - I agree with you it is a possible one. You need to show that no reasonable person could believe any other interpretation is reasonable, and thus the election overturned and Barry removed from the office given him by the states, voters, Electoral College and every member of Congress.
Just as your interpretation is possible, so is mine...which isn’t mine at all, but one taken from the courts. And the courts have no business overruling a national election based on “Well, we think this interpretation is a bit stronger than the other one...”
If a reasonable man can accept the Indiana court’s ruling, then you’ve lost. And the ruling IS reasonable. They could have ruled the other way and also been reasonable. There are two reasonable interpretation of the phrase - and you cannot overturn an election based on judicial whim.
“It is frustrating, but try not to be depressed. Just remember what you see posted here on the forum is a tiny fraction of what is really known and also there is also disinformation posted here to throw off the snoopers. There is much work going on behind the scenes and it will come out at the right time. Be patient.”
Made my day ! Thanks !
“...Mr. R., but your posts reflect a very poor understanding of the laws of evidence and rules of discovery.”
Get back to me when a birther wins a case. Somewhere. ANYWHERE. Those with a perfect record of losing in court shouldn’t throw stones at the legal reasoning of those winning...
There could well be another Speaker by January 2011. :)
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