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Early Human Dined on Young Neanderthal
Discvery News ^ | May 21, 2009 | Jennifer Viegas, Discovery News

Posted on 06/24/2009 1:57:09 PM PDT by jmcenanly

Sometime between 28,000 and 30,000 years ago, an anatomically modern human in what is now France may have eaten a Neanderthal child and made a necklace out of its teeth, according to a new study that suggests Europe's first humans had a violent relationship with their muscular, big-headed hominid ancestors.

The evidence, which includes teeth and a carefully butchered jawbone from a site called Les Rois in southwestern France, could represent the world's first known biological proof for direct contact between the two human groups.

(Excerpt) Read more at dsc.discovery.com ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: cavemen; creation; dietandcuisine; dinodiner; evolution; freepun; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; junkscience; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals; oldearthspeculatin; oldearthspeculation; paleontology; piltdownman
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To: Sacajaweau

My 30 year old son still has all his baby teeth in a box....he COULD make a necklace....


21 posted on 06/24/2009 2:58:25 PM PDT by Ecliptic
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To: DannyTN
It depends upon how the jawbone was cut.

Scouring the meat off a bone with an edge leaves characteristic marks.

But maybe he just wanted a cool Neanderthal jaw; either way the flesh was stripped off the jaw and the teeth collected to make a necklace.

Finding Neanderthal remains in human feces would definitely settle the matter of if humans ever ate neanderthals. But given how long neanderthals and humans lived with each other, and given how common cannibalism has been in human society; I wouldn't be willing to bet that such a thing NEVER happened, although I am sure early humans could find easier prey to make a meal of than a Neanderthal.

22 posted on 06/24/2009 2:58:55 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: Sacajaweau
"How the hell do you get “cannibal”.....out of a necklace???"

It was . . . Imagination . . . Imagination!

23 posted on 06/24/2009 3:05:51 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: jmcenanly

The French will eat anything if you put enough garlic on it.


24 posted on 06/24/2009 3:09:22 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: jmcenanly

25 posted on 06/24/2009 3:10:29 PM PDT by Costumed Vigilante
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To: freedumb2003

Uhh, I’m no YEC — but really, this headline is making a large claim that wouldn’t stand up in court. In fact, the article itself gives other possibilities as to what may have happened!


26 posted on 06/24/2009 3:10:29 PM PDT by rom (Obama '12 slogan: Let's keep on hopin'!)
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To: jmcenanly
Morlock and Eloi timeline and role reversal ping!


27 posted on 06/24/2009 3:14:58 PM PDT by Costumed Vigilante
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To: jmcenanly

Headline is BS.

They found a jawbone that someone carved... humans would often carve things out of artifacts they found...

As a kid I took home a bone I found in the woods. I didn’t eat whatever it came from. My mother threw it out. Had she not done that, and I were so inclined, I could have carved something cool out of it.

The Human could have found the bone somewhere and not even realized what it was from, then subsequently made a decoration out of it.

My childhood friend’s father had a skull that someone made into a jewelry box in his cellar gun collection. They did not eat the person it came from. Their grandfather bought it at a gun show in the 1920’s. (I always thought it was a very strange thing to have in the cellar, but it looked to be hundreds of years old.)


28 posted on 06/24/2009 3:15:00 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: swarthyguy

>>Bratwurst.<<

Bada bing! (LOL)


29 posted on 06/24/2009 3:16:29 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: jmcenanly
Dusseldorp indicated that, per Rozzi's study, it's possible modern humans butchered Neanderthals. But he believes Neanderthal reliance on large prey, such as rhinos, brown bear, bison bulls and horses, may have played a bigger factor in the Neanderthal's demise, since large animal shortages could have left them hungry.

Modern humans, in contrast, are thought to have fished and hunted smaller, yet more plentiful, prey, like rabbits and birds.

"After environmental crises, modern humans may then have recovered more quickly than Neanderthals, and may have started usurping territories that before the environmental crisis were occupied by Neanderthals," Dusseldorp said.

Basically, don't bring a rhino to a rabbit fight.

30 posted on 06/24/2009 3:19:56 PM PDT by john in springfield
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To: dfwgator

Don’t eat it rare, though...you’ll get mad neanderthal disease.


31 posted on 06/24/2009 3:52:10 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (doubleplusungood)
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To: Winstons Julia

Humans taste like pork actually ant the white meat dark meat is laid out like a chicken.


32 posted on 06/24/2009 3:59:57 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (They must think we are stupid. They want to be green, I want to be gault.)
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To: jmcenanly

Not shocking. Cannibalism is still practiced in parts of Africa. Many primitive societies ate their enemies. Hell, Jeremiah “Liver Eater” Johnson, the famed mountain man, ate the livers of Indians that he killed!


33 posted on 06/24/2009 4:24:10 PM PDT by darth
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To: jmcenanly

"Stop it, stop it. Stop this cannibalism. Let's have a thread about clean, decent human beings."

34 posted on 06/24/2009 4:29:37 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: When do we get liberated?

You are not invited to my house.


35 posted on 06/24/2009 4:30:54 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (doubleplusungood)
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To: MEGoody

And, like most dysfunctional families, they never got together for holidays.


36 posted on 06/24/2009 5:45:21 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: jmcenanly

Barney Fwank would have felt right at home there.


37 posted on 06/24/2009 5:52:32 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (When you put Democrats in charge, stupid things happen)
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To: Sacajaweau
"How the hell do you get “cannibal”.....out of a necklace???"

Well clearly the wearer of this necklace is a cannibal...

But a necklace of neanderthal teeth? nah. It was probably his favorite uncle.

38 posted on 06/24/2009 8:42:37 PM PDT by DannyTN
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The Neandertal Enigma
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Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]
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39 posted on 07/14/2009 6:28:11 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeek! ping.


40 posted on 07/14/2009 6:29:21 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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