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Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.

The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.

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To: LucyT

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history.do?action=Article&id=2794

excerpt:

In September 1960, Castro led a delegation to New York City to address the United Nations General Assembly. He and his entourage caused an immediate sensation by deciding to stay at the Theresa Hotel in Harlem. While there, Castro met with a number of African-American leaders, including Malcolm X from the Nation of Islam and the poet Langston Hughes. On September 26, Castro delivered a blistering attack on what he termed American “aggression” and “imperialism.” For over four hours, Castro lambasted U.S. policy toward Cuba and other nations in Latin America, Asia, and Africa. The United States, he declared, had “decreed the destruction” of his revolutionary government...


7,001 posted on 02/28/2009 11:01:56 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: LucyT
leaving the hotel Theresa to go to the UN:


7,002 posted on 02/28/2009 11:05:33 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: LucyT

7,003 posted on 02/28/2009 11:12:02 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: LucyT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EcC0QAd0Ug

Percy Sutton video. I have never understood his special interest in obama...why would he help a young man he did not know, the son of a Kenyan goat-herder (LOL!) get into Harvard?


7,004 posted on 02/28/2009 11:17:32 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks; Iowan
Photobucket
7,005 posted on 02/28/2009 11:25:42 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Fred Nerks; LucyT

Excellent point, Fred Nerks

Let’s connect-the-dots.

Why would Percy Sutton, Malcolm X’s lawyer, be interested in helping Obama?


7,006 posted on 03/01/2009 4:42:21 AM PST by Iowan
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To: LucyT

I also recall seeing another photo of Malcolm X and Castro together. This photo is a different one than I remember.


7,007 posted on 03/01/2009 4:43:45 AM PST by Iowan
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To: LucyT

Thanks, LucyT

Mystery Ranch Ping.

See Post #7008


7,009 posted on 03/01/2009 10:19:57 AM PST by Iowan
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To: Iowan; LucyT; Fred Nerks

Forgot to add at #7008 that I think that is a spoof photo.

It must be from a site where they photoshop!!

LOL


7,010 posted on 03/01/2009 10:36:36 AM PST by Iowan
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To: LucyT

This may be a good time to remind ourselves of the statement apparently made by the obama lawyers:

“...Obama’s lawyers in these motions, argued that revealing the information (birth certificate, citizenship in other countries, etc.) would “cause a defined and serious injury” to Obama and/or the DNC. They say revealing these documents raises a “legitimate privacy concern” and the above mentioned risk that “particularly serious embarrassment will result from turning over the requested documentation.” The source of that embarrassment was not specified...

http://israelinsider.ning.com/profiles/blogs/2018399:BlogPost:10858

I’m asking - could that embarrassment be connected to paternity issues?


7,011 posted on 03/01/2009 4:17:39 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Iowan

forgot to ping you:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2040486/posts?page=7011#7011


7,012 posted on 03/01/2009 5:00:45 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks; LucyT; Calpernia

>>This may be a good time to remind ourselves of the statement apparently made by the obama lawyers:

“...Obama’s lawyers in these motions, argued that revealing the information (birth certificate, citizenship in other countries, etc.) would “cause a defined and serious injury” to Obama and/or the DNC. They say revealing these documents raises a “legitimate privacy concern” and the above mentioned risk that “particularly serious embarrassment will result from turning over the requested documentation.” The source of that embarrassment was not specified...>>>>

Also, why would it “cause a defined and serious injury “ to Obama and/or the DNC?

The DNC??? What would that matter? Obama was a rogue, unvetted candidate that basically campaigned outside of the DNC. Howard Dean didn’t even vet him, Pelosi signed the form.

Can she do that legally????

The embarrassment is probably connected to paternity and BC issue problem.


7,013 posted on 03/01/2009 5:12:27 PM PST by Iowan
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To: Fred Nerks
I have been tracking the movements of several persons during the time Stanley Ann got pregnant. Malcolm was in Chicago in Sept 1960. (I realize that is too early for conception, but Chicago was a sort of base. There may have been as of yet undocumented visits.)

This has a somewhat detailed chronology for Malcolm X
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:25BiCJ_mhSQJ:www.brothermalcolm.net/mxwords/mxwords.html+%22malcolm+x%22+chicago+1960&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=18&gl=us


Madelyn Dunham’s brother has lived in Chicago and recently retired from the University of Chicago (Assistant Director-Library)

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Charles T. Payne, 83, a great uncle to Sen Barack Obama, D-III, is seen during an interview with ... Chicago’s library. Payne is proud of his great-nephew, ...
www.arabtimesonline.com/pdf08/july/25/page%2015.pdf -

Uncle Charlie proud of Obama
‘Attention of flub astonishing’

CHICAGO, July 24, (AP): Charles T. Payne had his first close brush with his¬tory at the end of World War II, when his infantry division liberated Ohrdruf, a subcamp of the Nazis’ Buchenwald concentration camp in eastern Germany.
Now 83, Payne is experiencing a sec¬ond brush as the great-uncle of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
Payne spoke to The Associated Press on Tuesday as Obama, on the other side of the world, prepared to visit the Yad Vashem national Holocaust memorial in Jerusalem.
In May, Obama mentioned “Uncle Charlie” at a meeting with veterans but mistakenly said Payne had helped liber¬ate Auschwitz, when he should have said Buchenwald. Bloggers seized on the error and the Republican Party demanded an explanation.
Obama’s campaign corrected the mistake the next day. Soviet forces lib-erated Auschwitz as they marched across Poland in January 1945.
Payne, with an Obama button pinned to his shirt, told the AP he was “truly astonished” by the attention
paid to Obama’s flub. The brother of Obama’s maternal grandmother, Payne figures Obama heard the story wrong from his grandparents, “whose grasp of geography wasn’t always the firmest.” He said at the time he asked friends if he should “try to set the record straight,” but that they advised him to ignore it.
Payne said he didn’t want to say any-thing to embarrass the Obama cam¬paign and minimized his role in the lib-eration of Ohrdruf.
Heroic
“I have no heroic story to tell,” he said. “I was just there.”
He had seen plenty of death during his two years in the Army, but the cru¬elty of what he witnessed at Ohrdruf appalled him. In the courtyard, he saw lying dead “a circle of the inmates in their rags, and you could see they were mostly near starvation. They were there with their tin cups like they were called to get food, then had been machine gunned.”
In a shed, he saw bodies stacked like cord wood. The survivors, many near starvation, were “nothing but just skin
over bones with nothing, no flesh at all.” He said the 1993 movie “Schindler’s List” was “very good, but it didn’t begin to show the desperate plight of the prisoners. I guess in real life you can’t really starve people next to death in order to make a movie.”
After the war, Payne went to college in Kansas and then to graduate school at the University of Chicago, where Obama would later lecture on constitu¬tional law. He later became interested in computers and how they could be used in libraries. He retired at age 70 as assistant director of the University of Chicago’s library.
Payne is proud of his great-nephew, who is prominently displayed in family photos.
“He’s truly an astounding young man and always has been,” he said.
As attention turns to the Holocaust with Obama’s expected visit to the Israeli memorial on Wednesday, Payne reflected on the lessons of history.
“Clearly to me it’s proof that there’s no limit to what a man will do to man and what government out of control will do,” he said. “I guess we need to be on our guard eternally.”


Not only did Stanley Ann want to go to University of Chicago, she was accepted there as well. Besides being familar with Chicago (if she ever visited Uncle Charlie) she must have visited the campus of the University of Chicago at some point.
7,014 posted on 03/01/2009 5:27:15 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights (Economic Stimulus: Creating jobs, one death at a time.)
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To: Fred Nerks

More:
Has it ever been determined where Stanley Ann was when the fall semester at UH started in 1960?

Could she have been in NY?
http://www.brothermalcolm.net/2002/mx_1990/documents.htm

Castro speaking about Malcolm X
This event was September 1960 when Castro visited the UN.

“....I always remember when I met with Malcolm X at the hotel “Teresa”, because he was the one who gave us support and made it possible for us to be accommodated there. We had two choices: one was the patio in the United Nations; when I told this to the Secretary General he was horrified at the thought of a delegation camping in tents there; and then we received Malcolm X’s offer, he had talked to one of our comrades, and I said: “That is the place, Hotel ‘Teresa’.” And there we went, so I have personal memories of him. ...”


7,015 posted on 03/01/2009 5:35:16 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights (Economic Stimulus: Creating jobs, one death at a time.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; pepsionice; LucyT
I found Pepsionice comment of interest, I have often asked myself, why would we assume the April birthdate to be correct, when nothing else is?

At some point...one of the dots will suddenly not connect to the natural next part of the story...because we are going to find out bits that aren’t part of the “legend”. The birth certificate would readily identify his birthdate....which a number of people are now believing that its in the April/May timeframe....not August...which would mean that Stanley Ann was preg before they came to Hawaii.

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7,016 posted on 03/01/2009 5:44:49 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks
I wonder how close Madelyn was to her brother Charles. Was he an influence in Stanley Ann's life?

Did she visit during the summers? Perhaps that is why she wanted to go there. Surely she had visited the campus prior to applying. Was Chicago a place she was already comfortable with? Having been accepted to the University of Chicago, Stanley would not allow it. Wonder why? The distance or the company she might keep?

Always more questions than answers, but sooner or later that one nugget will glisten in the sunlight.

7,017 posted on 03/01/2009 6:23:15 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Placemarker ... can you believe someone accused me tonight at FR of not reading anything about 'natural born citizen'? That was a hoot from AUH2ORepublican .
7,018 posted on 03/01/2009 6:32:43 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Always more questions than answers, but sooner or later that one nugget will glisten in the sunlight.

I agree, and thank you for your research and input, Stanley Ann having an Uncle at the U Chicago explains much as to why she made application to go there. An application that she would have made in person, after her graduation. With her marxist education and background, the events at the UN in September 1960, with Castro and Krushchev at the UN would have been a huge drawcard for her, I believe. It's perhaps no wonder then that her schoolfriend said she lost track of Stanley Ann after graduation. Stanley Ann may have been in Chicago and New York.

7,019 posted on 03/01/2009 6:44:48 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks; Americalover

Malcolm X's mother & father (from PBS)

7,020 posted on 03/01/2009 6:51:56 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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