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To: LucyT

This may be a good time to remind ourselves of the statement apparently made by the obama lawyers:

“...Obama’s lawyers in these motions, argued that revealing the information (birth certificate, citizenship in other countries, etc.) would “cause a defined and serious injury” to Obama and/or the DNC. They say revealing these documents raises a “legitimate privacy concern” and the above mentioned risk that “particularly serious embarrassment will result from turning over the requested documentation.” The source of that embarrassment was not specified...

http://israelinsider.ning.com/profiles/blogs/2018399:BlogPost:10858

I’m asking - could that embarrassment be connected to paternity issues?


7,011 posted on 03/01/2009 4:17:39 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks; LucyT; Calpernia

>>This may be a good time to remind ourselves of the statement apparently made by the obama lawyers:

“...Obama’s lawyers in these motions, argued that revealing the information (birth certificate, citizenship in other countries, etc.) would “cause a defined and serious injury” to Obama and/or the DNC. They say revealing these documents raises a “legitimate privacy concern” and the above mentioned risk that “particularly serious embarrassment will result from turning over the requested documentation.” The source of that embarrassment was not specified...>>>>

Also, why would it “cause a defined and serious injury “ to Obama and/or the DNC?

The DNC??? What would that matter? Obama was a rogue, unvetted candidate that basically campaigned outside of the DNC. Howard Dean didn’t even vet him, Pelosi signed the form.

Can she do that legally????

The embarrassment is probably connected to paternity and BC issue problem.


7,013 posted on 03/01/2009 5:12:27 PM PST by Iowan
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To: Fred Nerks
I have been tracking the movements of several persons during the time Stanley Ann got pregnant. Malcolm was in Chicago in Sept 1960. (I realize that is too early for conception, but Chicago was a sort of base. There may have been as of yet undocumented visits.)

This has a somewhat detailed chronology for Malcolm X
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:25BiCJ_mhSQJ:www.brothermalcolm.net/mxwords/mxwords.html+%22malcolm+x%22+chicago+1960&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=18&gl=us


Madelyn Dunham’s brother has lived in Chicago and recently retired from the University of Chicago (Assistant Director-Library)

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Charles T. Payne, 83, a great uncle to Sen Barack Obama, D-III, is seen during an interview with ... Chicago’s library. Payne is proud of his great-nephew, ...
www.arabtimesonline.com/pdf08/july/25/page%2015.pdf -

Uncle Charlie proud of Obama
‘Attention of flub astonishing’

CHICAGO, July 24, (AP): Charles T. Payne had his first close brush with his¬tory at the end of World War II, when his infantry division liberated Ohrdruf, a subcamp of the Nazis’ Buchenwald concentration camp in eastern Germany.
Now 83, Payne is experiencing a sec¬ond brush as the great-uncle of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
Payne spoke to The Associated Press on Tuesday as Obama, on the other side of the world, prepared to visit the Yad Vashem national Holocaust memorial in Jerusalem.
In May, Obama mentioned “Uncle Charlie” at a meeting with veterans but mistakenly said Payne had helped liber¬ate Auschwitz, when he should have said Buchenwald. Bloggers seized on the error and the Republican Party demanded an explanation.
Obama’s campaign corrected the mistake the next day. Soviet forces lib-erated Auschwitz as they marched across Poland in January 1945.
Payne, with an Obama button pinned to his shirt, told the AP he was “truly astonished” by the attention
paid to Obama’s flub. The brother of Obama’s maternal grandmother, Payne figures Obama heard the story wrong from his grandparents, “whose grasp of geography wasn’t always the firmest.” He said at the time he asked friends if he should “try to set the record straight,” but that they advised him to ignore it.
Payne said he didn’t want to say any-thing to embarrass the Obama cam¬paign and minimized his role in the lib-eration of Ohrdruf.
Heroic
“I have no heroic story to tell,” he said. “I was just there.”
He had seen plenty of death during his two years in the Army, but the cru¬elty of what he witnessed at Ohrdruf appalled him. In the courtyard, he saw lying dead “a circle of the inmates in their rags, and you could see they were mostly near starvation. They were there with their tin cups like they were called to get food, then had been machine gunned.”
In a shed, he saw bodies stacked like cord wood. The survivors, many near starvation, were “nothing but just skin
over bones with nothing, no flesh at all.” He said the 1993 movie “Schindler’s List” was “very good, but it didn’t begin to show the desperate plight of the prisoners. I guess in real life you can’t really starve people next to death in order to make a movie.”
After the war, Payne went to college in Kansas and then to graduate school at the University of Chicago, where Obama would later lecture on constitu¬tional law. He later became interested in computers and how they could be used in libraries. He retired at age 70 as assistant director of the University of Chicago’s library.
Payne is proud of his great-nephew, who is prominently displayed in family photos.
“He’s truly an astounding young man and always has been,” he said.
As attention turns to the Holocaust with Obama’s expected visit to the Israeli memorial on Wednesday, Payne reflected on the lessons of history.
“Clearly to me it’s proof that there’s no limit to what a man will do to man and what government out of control will do,” he said. “I guess we need to be on our guard eternally.”


Not only did Stanley Ann want to go to University of Chicago, she was accepted there as well. Besides being familar with Chicago (if she ever visited Uncle Charlie) she must have visited the campus of the University of Chicago at some point.
7,014 posted on 03/01/2009 5:27:15 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights (Economic Stimulus: Creating jobs, one death at a time.)
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To: Fred Nerks; Beckwith; rockinqsranch; Calpernia; null and void; pissant; george76; PhilDragoo; ...

Ping to #7,011 and read to bottom of page; don’t miss #7,014 or the question at #7,016.

Was Stanley Ann impregnanted in Chicago? Does this place her in proximity of Malcolm X during the time of conception? Inquiring minds want to know.


7,021 posted on 03/01/2009 7:35:42 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Fred Nerks
“cause a defined and serious injury” to Obama and/or the DNC." Um, treason (knowing he is not constitutionally eligible yet goes ahead and runs to take control) causes definite harm to My Country and thus directly to me, you idiot judges!
7,022 posted on 03/01/2009 7:39:10 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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