Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.
The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.
Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.
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I see your point, and respect (and agree with) your concerns.
However, frankly I’m glad to see people getting just a bit hysterical about Obama. He seems to be something of a “Manchurian Candidate”.
Concerns about his possibly fake BC, focus on that very concerning aspect of Obama. The small but troubling possibility, he’s some sort of sleeper agent.
For what? Communism? Islam? Both??
I sort of look at it this way: Any time FReepers spend posting about Obama’s sleaziness, is time not spent ... whining about John McCain. :)
“$oreA$$ probably should have just bribed some Hawaii officials to get a real deal birth certificate for his boy, Oblahma.”
Maybe $oreA$$ did the best that he could do since he couldn’t change the recorded data, he bought a blank certificate to be forged by Mugabe Obamination’s thugs and placed on Obamination’s web site.
We're asking Obama to prove a positive, what he is.
You are asking taraytarah to prove a negative, what she ain't.
Can't say I'm surprised that the subtle difference is lost on you...
“...it will only establish the precedent that that particular law and constitutional clause is no longer operant.”
McCain/Schwarzenegger ‘08!
Geeee that happens to be exactly the time of day and island that are on the possibly forged Obama BC.
What a coinky-dink!
Well put hollister23.
Thanks L.
Indeed it is. I know holders of valid US passports who were born in India, Germany, Russia, and China.
US Citizens all.
None of them constitutionally qualified to be Commander-in-Chief...
Nice summary of the confusion....lots of that.
Thanks.
Actually, the largest concern for me isn’t necessarily the Muslim stuff. It is the election in general, and the damage that may happen to religious institutions and conservative values in doctrine disseminated. While gearing up for the vote, the guy is crafty in his abilities, with MSM support, to pull wool over many eyes. He speaks of increasing the faith based initiatives with liberal caveats, but the restrictions get little press - only the increase. See, there are many that aren’t engaged like folks here, other conservative sites, or in liberal sites for that matter. Most of the population couldn’t tell you Obama or McCain are senators, what they really believe, and God forbid if they knew how they voted and what legislation they advanced. They will hear that Obama supports the SC decision on guns, and that he wants to grow faith based initiatives.
Meanwhile, we are spinning around saying he is an illegal alien from Kenya or something. Just seems like a good misdirection, so I can see why Obama hasn’t really responded. Why should he, when he has folks looking the other way while he is quietly moving in on the religious segments that got Bush elected twice. Even a mere 5 percent bump with that contingent would do him wonders. Forget what he might do to the institutions if elected, but think about the effort to fool the religious right into accepting him and how it might allow him to get elected God forbid. McCain is too much of a dodo bird to fight this fight, in my opinion frankly.
“It is hard for me to phantom why there are so many posters who dont see what is so obvious...forgery and fraud. I only thing that would sense to me is they dont want to see the clinton trash back in the White House and I would be able sympathize with that but this whole controversy is about something more important than a forged document.
It is about the first time in the history of this country, it is possible for a candidate could be elected president from an UNKNOWN ORIGIN.”
I think many of the complainers are the same ones who complained about the Swiftboat Vets and refused to believe the SBV’s story which meant they believed Kerry’s lies.
After being close to 70 years on this planet, a pattern often emerges in situations like this.
Sometimes when people try to defend what is obvious wrong, illegal and sometimes worse, they are covertly defending their own fraud or worse. Which might have been the reason so many so called conservatives called the Swiftboat Vets liars and allowed Kerry a free pass with his lies and treason.
Some Freepers felt that Blather and Mapes did nothing wrong because of their own BDS syndrome. They mouthed the same bs at the time that Blather/Mapers were exposed, that we should stick to the real issues.
Last but not least, sometimes this site has more trolls than freepers, sometimes, complaining about some liberal reality being exposed on Free Republic.
Good point.
Living in a pre-Berlin Wall collapse world. Decades away from 9/11.
Pretty sad, really...
“Only two data fields are filled in: the ISLAND OF BIRTH (Oahu) and the HOUR OF BIRTH (7:24 PM).
Geeee that happens to be exactly the time of day and island that are on the possibly forged Obama BC.
What a coinky-dink!”
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OK that goes beyond coincidence.
That’s darn near, proof.
Let’s see. 24 hours in a day. 60 minutes in each hour ... that’s (carry the 2, move to the denominator)
Even without including the chances of listing the same island ... The odds of that happening, are 7 one hundredths, of one percent.
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos... He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter."This is not the McKinnon I knew." -- Barack Hussein Mohammed Obama
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Thank you for finally pointing that out. I appreciate the correction of my error!
This is going to be hard for the Obama truth squad to answer. Besides the factual problems, there is a natural human tendency to crave wicked conspiracy theories that explain or solve much with only one or a few explanations.
That is to good to be true.
At one point last night, I told you and want to restate that some else has a detailed paper up on this subject. I may have a copy in my data but haven't had time to search for it. But it is clear that there are a number of places on both the form and the fake Birth Certificate itself where the hash marks have been dragged in and do not lineup. I have about ten issues from last night that are addressed by material in my file to look at and if I find it before you do, I will send you a link.
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