Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.
The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.
Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.
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Thanks. I get the feeling that my old computer is about ready to go away.
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I didn’t make myself clear. If one of those babies was a Ronald Reagan, someone in your employ would have told you. Word would get around to the nurses that they had delivered the baby etc. Maybe by chance in a small rural clinic in Hawaii where a young white girl has a black baby it would have been more noticeable.
I’m saying that there is no presence of a young Obama in Hawaii. The internet lists two hospital where he was born.
I know that this will all come out in the next two weeks. Let’s hope that it doesn’t come out before his nomination as I don’t want to face Hillary.
This guy is a first class loser. Americans will NOT vote for him.
Obama’s past life is a blur....it's less than a blurr it's a mystery.
I'm saying that if one of those 67 babies you delivered ended up running for president, someway somehow, you would be notified. In a small way you'd be a celebrity. That's just how people are.
Those weren’t the only ones either.
I'm a physician, too.
In 1974, I delivered 67 babies (the only 67 I've ever delivered) as part of my OB clerkship.
I couldn't tell you a single thing about a single one of the babies. Sure, I remember the footling breech - but who it WAS? Forget it!
I have had lots of law clerks who probably remember less about what they were doing in 1961 than they knew when the did it also. But, somewhere, like the lawyer who has the primary client responsibility, if Obama was born in Hawaii, there is a doctor who was really Stanley Ann's primary responsible doctor, who, if still alive, remembers.
Further, color blind that we all are in the modern politically correct world, facts are that a privileged white girl giving birth to a black son, in 1961, was going to be a remembered event, particularly in Hawaii.
Not just the doctor; most of the people involved would have remembered. They aren't all dead. Neither are the neighbors who lived in the area where Stanley Ann lived. And Obama Sr. was a relatively well known person in the Honolulu of 1961.
Ask Stanley Ann's mother--who was the doctor? Find him and ask him. They aren't going to claim a doctor was involved anyway--they will say they delivered him at home; maybe they claim her mother delivered her. That's why they don't want you looking at the document that underlies whatever birth certification is available in Hawaii.
I’m saying that there is no presence of a young Obama in Hawaii. The internet lists two hospital where he was born.
I know that this will all come out in the next two weeks. Let’s hope that it doesn’t come out before his nomination as I don’t want to face Hillary.
This guy is a first class loser. Americans will NOT vote for him.
Another thing. I did some locums work in Dixon, IL last Year. Ronald Reagan's presence is everywhere. Where he went to school, where he life guarded, his house...etc etc.
Obama’s past life is a blur....it's less than a blurr it's a mystery.
I'm saying that if one of those 67 babies you delivered ended up running for president, someway somehow, you would be notified. In a small way you'd be a celebrity. That's just how people are.
That's great work doctor and it deserves a repost. It is a far more articulate job than I did.
And I also picked up your political analysis which I am beginning to think is correct also. At a point where the poll numbers ought to see Obama running away with this, instead you see him slipping. Likely the press will see this as racism however facts are that he is just another empty shirt--really shallower than some of the Dem's prior empty shirts; his primary campaign theme is "Change" but his policy pronouncements are that he will adopt whatever public position the establishment tells him it wants to see to elect him. Like the AIPAC speech--he starts in one place before the speech; goes 180 degrees in the speech; then flips back a week later. What is he really for?
Two weeks may in fact end it--I am not so sure. Because as a lawyer, I see getting him to the mat in a position where undeniable facts are on the table, to be very difficult. You can almost assuredly expect him to return from Honolulu with another fairy tale that will fit some of the documentary problems--or alternatively, to come back saying nothing at all. Either way, more effort will be required to get him down.
1. You said: “The information about Stanley Armour Dunham being angry about his daughter being pregnant came from step-grandmother Sarah and appeared in the londonukonline series which was done on Obama.”
Sure, but David made a much stronger claim: “Stanley Ann had been kicked out by her family.” I’d not seen that asserted before and given that Obama also reports Ann’s family coming to accept Senior and his much stronger statements of how angry Senior’s father was about the whole situation, the odds that Kenya would be a respite from parental agitation about the newborn seem low.
2. You said: “At the same time in his book Obama mentioned that Ann and her father were ‘on the outs’ by the time the Dunham family headed for the island.”
Sure, but this happened well before she met Senior, bot pregnant or birthed Junior. There’s no doubt Ann had a smoother relationship with mom than dad, but she also recounts dad trying to (clumsily) fit in with her college friends, so I never interpreted this as some sort of severe, unbreachable rift between them. IF she had been tossed from the house, one could certainly point to this as an early warning signal of a tenuous relationship for which an unplanned pregnancy could have served as the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back. But I’m seeking evidence that she ever was tossed out in the first place, not the nature of the relationship itself.
3. You said: “DrC where did you get the idea that Ann was in a PhD program when she didn’t even have a degree?”
My mistake. I misremembered, thinking that Senior was in a graduate program, as I knew he eventually got a graduate degree in economics and because Obama’s description of student gatherings involving his parents reminded me of my own graduate school days. But on rechecking I realize Senior didn’t start graduate school until going to Harvard and that he ended up with Masters, not a PhD. Sorry for the confusion.
4. You said: “On another point ‘The Honolulu Advertiser” verified that Obama Sr graduated and left Hawaii in 1962 before his son was even a year old.”
I’ll take this at face value, but Obama says 2 years and unless Senior graduated from Hawaii in only 3 years, he began in 1959, so his graduation year should have been spring 1963 etc. (which then would be more consistent with Obama’s account). So in the grand scheme of things, it probably doesn’t matter, but it’s always been a bit of a puzzle.
“I find it odd that State of Hawaii bureaucrats haven’t leeked anything, as one would think by now anyone who haS ACCESS to Obama’s records would have checked them out.”
I agree this is odd, but thanks to HIPAA, the academic medical center I work in has an elaborate electronic system that literally records every time employee X accesses patient Y’s medical record. If you even try to peek at a family or friend’s medical record and have no legitimate reason for doing so, you can be fired. So it wouldn’t be surprising, in light of the restrictions Hawaii has placed on access to vital records, if they maintained a similar sort of 24/7 electronic snoop. Meaning no disrespect to any hard-working government workers, most state bureaucrats aren’t exactly known for risk-taking behavior.
>>>I didn’t make myself clear. If one of those babies was a Ronald Reagan, someone in your employ would have told you. Word would get around to the nurses that they had delivered the baby etc. Maybe by chance in a small rural clinic in Hawaii where a young white girl has a black baby it would have been more noticeable.
That is very consistant with how they did the track back on Obama’s life in Indonesia that is in Corsi’s book, Obama Nation.
Reporters tracked back the stories and found people that were involved with him through out his early years. People didn’t remember right off the bat; but when the times, places and records were put together, the stories came out.
>>>Let’s hope that it doesn’t come out before his nomination as I don’t want to face Hillary.
Warning. If it comes out after his nomination, we will be facing the Vice President he selects. That person will be even less vetted than Obama is now.
>>>the academic medical center I work in has an elaborate electronic system that literally records every time employee X accesses patient Y’s medical record.
Their archives are all converted already? Our physicians aren’t. They still have paper files.
In one of the English version African papers which has been scrubbed (for other reasons), I remember reading that he graduated in three years which would support the 1962 date--and be consistent with other data reflecting a Harvard in the fall of 1962 story.
Especially at the age we are now. Our memory's get a little fuzzy.:-)
Black babies can and especially mixed race babies will more than likely be born with light skin? The pigmentation doesn't set in until about the 3 day, or longer.
My brother has a mixed grand-daughter and they said she was real light when born. She later turned dark.
Yes, I agree with you.
“Their archives are all converted already? Our physicians aren’t. They still have paper files.”
I don’t pretend to know all the details, as I’m only a PhD, not a “real” doc. I think we’re now on perhaps our 3rd try at getting truly universal EHR that replaces all the separate legacy systems we had for OP, labs, pharma, IP etc.
In contrast, however, vital records are much simpler and in Hawaii’s case appear to have been digitized long ago. I’m not an IT person, but I presume that compared to whatever vast expenditures might have been required at our AMC, establishing a front-end system that logs every employee’s access to a particular record would be a piece of cake. My understanding was the HIPAA compliance requires this sort of tracking system, but HIPAA per se I believe only applies to medical records not vital statistics records. I’ll apologize in advance if anyone points out my being in error on this point.
Apologies for a late response as I am a little slow getting going this morning, Obama himself mentions in his book that his father graduated in 3 years. Going by year that would be 1959 - 60, 1960 - 61, and finally 1961 - 62. He also mentions in his book the article appearing in the newspaper upon his father’s graduation and prior to his leaving for Harvard. Reading ‘The Honolulu Advertiser’ regarding Obama and race relations the newspaper published excerpts of the interview with Obama Sr done in 1962. IMO Obama Jr simply expanded on ideas which his father had expressed in that interview, which resulted in his first book but he had led a fairly sheltered life and didn’t really have a clue as to how life could be for blacks on the mainland and elsewhere.
DrC was referring to the 1960 - 61 period not to the later period when she returned to University earning her degree and then her Master’s
Seeing you call him Obama II and remembering he is BHOII on his apparently improper CLB prompts me to point out that his proper grandparents would have named him BHOjr if Stanley Ann had married BHO. So I doubt that they were married.
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