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The strongest evidence for a Universe before the Big Bang
FreeThink ^ | March 29, 2023 | By Ethan Siegel

Posted on 03/30/2023 7:24:41 AM PDT by Red Badger

The hot Big Bang is often touted as the beginning of the Universe. But there's one piece of evidence we can't ignore that shows otherwise.

The notion of the Big Bang goes back nearly 100 years, when the first evidence for the expanding Universe appeared. If the Universe is expanding and cooling today, that implies a past that was smaller, denser, and hotter. In our imaginations, we can extrapolate back to arbitrarily small sizes, high densities, and hot temperatures: all the way to a singularity, where all of the Universe’s matter and energy was condensed in a single point. For many decades, these two notions of the Big Bang — of the hot dense state that describes the early Universe and the initial singularity — were inseparable.

But beginning in the 1970s, scientists started identifying some puzzles surrounding the Big Bang, noting several properties of the Universe that weren’t explainable within the context of these two notions simultaneously. When cosmic inflation was first put forth and developed in the early 1980s, it separated the two definitions of the Big Bang, proposing that the early hot, dense state never achieved these singular conditions, but rather that a new, inflationary state preceded it. There really was a Universe before the hot Big Bang, and some very strong evidence from the 21st century truly proves that it’s so.

Our entire cosmic history is theoretically well-understood, but only because we understand the theory of gravitation that underlies it, and because we know the Universe’s present expansion rate and energy composition. We can trace out the timeline of the Universe to exquisite precision, despite the uncertainties and unknowns surrounding the very beginning of the Universe. From cosmic inflation until today’s dark energy domination, the broad strokes of our entire cosmic history is known. (Credit: Nicole Rager Fuller/National Science Foundation)

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Although we’re certain that we can describe the very early Universe as being hot, dense, rapidly expanding, and full of matter-and-radiation — i.e., by the hot Big Bang — the question of whether that was truly the beginning of the Universe or not is one that can be answered with evidence. The differences between a Universe that began with a hot Big Bang and a Universe that had an inflationary phase that precedes and sets up the hot Big Bang are subtle, but tremendously important. After all, if we want to know what the very beginning of the Universe was, we need to look for evidence from the Universe itself.

In a hot Big Bang that we extrapolate all the way back to a singularity, the Universe achieves arbitrarily hot temperatures and high energies. Although the Universe will have an “average” density and temperature, there will be imperfections throughout it: overdense regions and underdense regions alike. As the Universe expands and cools, it also gravitates, meaning that overdense regions will attract more matter-and-energy into them, growing over time, while underdense regions will preferentially give up their matter-and-energy into the denser surrounding regions, creating the seeds for an eventual cosmic web of structure.

The Universe doesn’t just expand uniformly, but has tiny density imperfections within it, which enable us to form stars, galaxies, and clusters of galaxies as time goes on. Adding density inhomogeneities on top of a homogeneous background is the starting point for understanding what the Universe looks like today. (Credit: E.M. Huff, SDSS-III/South Pole Telescope, Zosia Rostomian)

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But the details that will emerge in the cosmic web are determined far earlier, as the “seeds” of the large-scale structure were imprinted in the very early Universe. Today’s stars, galaxies, clusters of galaxies, and filamentary structures on the largest scales of all can be traced back to density imperfections from when neutral atoms first formed in the Universe, as those “seeds” would grow, over hundreds of millions and even billions of years, into the rich cosmic structure we see today. Those seeds exist all throughout the Universe, and remain, even today, as temperature imperfections in the Big Bang’s leftover glow: the cosmic microwave background.

As measured by the WMAP satellite in the 2000s and its successor, the Planck satellite, in the 2010s, these temperature fluctuations are observed to appear on all scales, and they correspond to density fluctuations in the early Universe. The link is because of gravitation, and the fact that within General Relativity, the presence and concentration of matter-and-energy determines the curvature of space. Light has to travel from the region of space where it originates to the observer’s “eyes,” and that means:

* the overdense regions, with more matter-and-energy than average, will appear colder-than-average, as the light must “climb out” of a larger gravitational potential well,

* the underdense regions, with less matter-and-energy than average, will appear hotter-than-average, as the light has a shallower-than-average gravitational potential well to climb out of,

* and that the average density regions will appear as an average temperature: the mean temperature of the cosmic microwave background.

When we see a hot spot, a cold spot, or a region of average temperature in the CMB, the temperature difference we see typically corresponds to an underdense, overdense, or average-density region at the time the CMB was emitted: just 380,000 years after the Big Bang. This is a consequence of the Sachs-Wolfe effect. However, other, later-time effects can also cause temperature fluctuations. (Credit: E. Siegel/Beyond the Galaxy)

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But where did these imperfections come from, initially? These temperature imperfections that we observe in the Big Bang’s leftover glow come to us from an epoch that’s already 380,000 years after the start of the hot Big Bang, meaning they’ve already experienced 380,000 years of cosmic evolution. The story is quite different, depending on which explanation you turn toward.

According to the “singular” Big Bang explanation, the Universe was simply “born” with an original set of imperfections, and these imperfections grew and evolved according to the rules of gravitational collapse, of particle interactions, and of radiation interacting with matter, including the differences between normal and dark matter.

According to the inflationary origin theory, however, where the hot Big Bang only arises in the aftermath of a period of cosmic inflation, these imperfections are seeded by quantum fluctuations — that is, fluctuations that arise due to the inherent energy-time uncertainty relation in quantum physics — that occur during the inflationary period: when the Universe is expanding exponentially. These quantum fluctuations, generated on the smallest scales, get stretched to larger scales by inflation, while newer, later-time fluctuations get stretched atop them, creating a superposition of these fluctuations on all distance scales.

The quantum fluctuations that occur during inflation do indeed get stretched across the Universe, and later, smaller-scale fluctuations get superimposed atop the older, larger-scale ones. This should also, in theory, produce fluctuations on scales larger than the cosmic horizon: super-horizon fluctuations. These field fluctuations cause density imperfections in the early Universe, which then lead to the temperature fluctuations we measure in the cosmic microwave background. (Credit: E. Siegel/Beyond the Galaxy)

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These two pictures are conceptually different, but the reason they’re interesting to astrophysicists is that each picture leads to potentially observable differences in the types of signatures we’d observe. In the “singular” Big Bang picture, the types of fluctuations that we’d expect to see would be limited by the speed of light: the distance that a signal — gravitational or otherwise — would have been allowed to propagate if it were moving at the speed of light through the expanding Universe that began with a singular event known as the Big Bang.

But in a Universe that underwent a period of inflation prior to the start of the hot Big Bang, we’d expect there to be density fluctuations on all scales, including on scales larger than the speed of light could have allowed a signal to travel since the start of the hot Big Bang. Because inflation essentially “doubles” the size of the Universe in all three dimensions with each tiny-fraction-of-a-second that passes, fluctuations that occurred a few hundred fractions-of-a-second ago are already stretched to a scale larger than the presently observable Universe.

Although later fluctuations superimpose themselves atop the older, earlier, larger-scale fluctuations, inflation allows us to start the Universe off with ultra-large-scale fluctuations that shouldn’t exist in the Universe if it began with a Big Bang singularity without inflation.

The quantum fluctuations inherent to space, stretched across the Universe during cosmic inflation, gave rise to the density fluctuations imprinted in the cosmic microwave background, which in turn gave rise to the stars, galaxies, and other large-scale structures in the Universe today. This is the best picture we have of how the entire Universe behaves, where inflation precedes and sets up the Big Bang. (Credit: E. Siegel; ESA/Planck and the DOE/NASA/NSF Interagency Task Force on CMB research)

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In other words, the big test that one can perform is to examine the Universe, in all its gory details, and look for either the presence or absence of this key feature: what cosmologists call super-horizon fluctuations. At any moment in the Universe’s history, there’s a limit to how far a signal that’s been traveling at the speed of light since the start of the hot Big Bang could’ve traveled, and that scale sets what’s known as the cosmic horizon.

* Scales that are smaller than the horizon, known as sub-horizon scales, can be influenced by physics that’s occurred since the start of the hot Big Bang.

* Scales that are equal to the horizon, known as horizon scales, are the upper limit to what could’ve been influenced by physical signals since the start of the hot Big Bang.

* And scales that are greater than the horizon, known as super-horizon scales, are beyond the limit of what could’ve been caused by physical signals generated at or since the start of the hot Big Bang.

In other words, if we can search the Universe for signals that appear on super-horizon scales, that’s a great way to discriminate between a non-inflationary Universe that began with a singular hot Big Bang (which shouldn’t have them at all) and an inflationary Universe that possessed an inflationary period prior to the start of the hot Big Bang (which should possess these super-horizon fluctuations).

The leftover glow from the Big Bang, the CMB, isn’t uniform, but has tiny imperfections and temperature fluctuations of a few hundred microkelvin in magnitude. These fluctuations were generated by a combination of processes, but the temperature data, on its own, isn’t able to determine whether superhorizon fluctuations exist or not. (Credit: ESA and the Planck Collaboration)

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Unfortunately, simply looking at a map of temperature fluctuations in the cosmic microwave background isn’t enough, on its own, to tell these two scenarios apart. The temperature map of the cosmic microwave background can be broken up into different components, some of which occupy large angular scales on the sky, and some of which occupy small angular scales, as well as everything in-between.

The problem is that fluctuations on the largest scales have two possible causes. They could be created from the fluctuations that arose during an inflationary period, sure. But they could also be created simply by the gravitational growth of structure in the late-time Universe, which has a much larger cosmic horizon than the early-time Universe.

For example, if all you have is a gravitational potential well for a photon to climb out of, then climbing out of that well costs the photon energy; this is known as the Sachs-Wolfe effect in physics, and occurs for the cosmic microwave background at the point at which the photons were first emitted.

However, if your photon falls into a gravitational potential well along the way, it gains energy, and then when it climbs back out again on its way to you, it loses energy. If the gravitational imperfection either grows or shrinks over time, which it does in multiple ways in a gravitating Universe filled with dark energy, then various regions of space can appear hotter or colder than average based on the growth (or shrinkage) of density imperfections within it. This is known as the integrated Sachs-Wolfe effect.

At late times, photons fall into gravitational structures like rich clusters or sparse voids, and then leave again. However, matter can flow in or out of these structures, and the expansion of the Universe can change the strength of that potential during the time a photon traverses it, creating a relative redshift or blueshift owing to what’s known as the integrated Sachs-Wolfe effect. (Credit: B.R. Granett et al., ApJ, 2008)

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So when we look at the temperature imperfections in the cosmic microwave background and we see them on these large cosmic scales, there isn’t enough information there, on its own, to know whether:

* they were generated by the Sachs-Wolfe effect and are due to inflation,

* they were generated by the integrated Sachs-Wolfe effect and are due to the growth/shrinkage of foreground structures,

* or they’re due to some combination of the two.

Fortunately, however, looking at the temperature of the cosmic microwave background isn’t the only way we get information about the Universe; we can also look at the polarization data of the light from that background.

As light travels through the Universe, it interacts with the matter within it, and with electrons in particular. (Remember, light is an electromagnetic wave!) If the light is polarized in a radially-symmetric fashion, that’s an example of an E-mode (electric) polarization; if the light is polarized in either a clockwise or counterclockwise fashion, that’s an example of a B-mode (magnetic) polarization. Detecting polarization, on its own, isn’t enough to show the existence of super-horizon fluctuations, however.

This map shows the CMB’s polarization signal, as measured by the Planck satellite in 2015. The top and bottom insets show the difference between filtering the data on particular angular scales of 5 degrees and 1/3 of a degree, respectively. (Credit: ESA and the Planck Collaboration, 2015)

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What you need to do is perform a correlation analysis: between the polarized light and the temperature fluctuations in the cosmic microwave background and correlate them on the same angular scales as one another. This is where things get really interesting, because this is where observationally looking at our Universe allows us to tell the “singular Big Bang without inflation” and the “inflationary state that gives rise to the hot Big Bang” scenarios apart!

* In both cases, we expect to see sub-horizon correlations, both positive and negative ones, between the E-mode polarization in the cosmic microwave background and the temperature fluctuations within the cosmic microwave background.

* In both cases, we expect that on the scale of the cosmic horizon, corresponding to angular scales of about 1 degree (and a multipole moment of about l = 200 to 220), these correlations will be zero.

* However, on super-horizon scales, the “singular Big Bang” scenario will only possess one large, positive “blip” of a correlation between the E-mode polarization and the temperature fluctuations in the cosmic microwave background, corresponding to when stars form in large numbers and reionize the intergalactic medium. The “inflationary Big Bang” scenario, on the other hand, includes this, but also includes a series of negative correlations between the E-mode polarization and the temperature fluctuations on super-horizon scales, or scales between about 1 and 5 degrees (or multipole moments from l = 30 to l = 200).

This 2003 WMAP publication is the very first scientific paper to show the evidence for super-horizon fluctuations in the temperature-polarization correlation (TE cross-correlation) spectrum. The fact that the solid curve, and not the dotted line, is followed to the left of the annotated green dotted line is very difficult to overlook. (Credit: A. Kogut et al., ApJS, 2003; annotations by E. Siegel)

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What you see, above, is the very first graph, published by the WMAP team in 2003, a full 20 years ago, showing what cosmologists call the TE cross-correlation spectrum: the correlations, on all angular scales, that we see between the E-mode polarization and the temperature fluctuations in the cosmic microwave background. In green, I’ve added the scale of the cosmic horizon, along with arrows that indicate both sub-horizon and super-horizon scales. As you can see, on sub-horizon scales, the positive and negative correlations are both there, but on super-horizon scales, there’s clearly that big “dip” that appears in the data, agreeing with the inflationary (solid line) prediction, and definitively not agreeing with the non-inflationary, singular Big Bang (dotted line) prediction.

Of course, that was 20 years ago, and the WMAP satellite was superseded by the Planck satellite, which was superior in many ways: it viewed the Universe in a greater number of wavelength bands, it went down to smaller angular scales, it possessed a greater temperature sensitivity, it included a dedicated polarimetry instrument, and it sampled the entire sky more times, further reducing the errors and uncertainties. When we look at the final (2018-era) Planck TE cross-correlation data, below, the results are breathtaking.

If one wants to investigate the signals within the observable Universe for unambiguous evidence of super-horizon fluctuations, one needs to look at super-horizon scales at the TE cross-correlation spectrum of the CMB. With the final (2018) Planck data now in hand, the evidence is overwhelming in favor of their existence. (Credit: ESA and the Planck collaboration; annotations by E. Siegel)

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As you can clearly see, there can be no doubt that there truly are super-horizon fluctuations within the Universe, as the significance of this signal is overwhelming. The fact that we see super-horizon fluctuations, and that we see them not merely from reionization but as they are predicted to exist from inflation, is a slam dunk: the non-inflationary, singular Big Bang model does not match up with the Universe we observe. Instead, we learn that we can only extrapolate the Universe back to a certain cutoff point in the context of the hot Big Bang, and that prior to that, an inflationary state must have preceded the hot Big Bang.

We’d love to say more about the Universe than that, but unfortunately, those are the observable limits: fluctuations and imprints on larger scales leave no effect on the Universe that we can see. There are other tests of inflation that we can look for as well: a nearly scale-invariant spectrum of purely adiabatic fluctuations, a cutoff in the maximum temperature of the hot Big Bang, a slight departure from perfect flatness to the cosmological curvature and a primordial gravitational wave spectrum among them. However, the super-horizon fluctuation test is an easy one to perform and one that’s completely robust.

All on its own, it’s enough to tell us that the Universe didn’t start with the hot Big Bang, but rather that an inflationary state preceded it and set it up. Although it’s generally not talked about in such terms, this discovery, all by itself, is easily a Nobel-worthy achievement.

This excerpt was reprinted with permission of Big Think, where it was originally published.


TOPICS: Astronomy; Education; History; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; astrophysics; bigbang; cosmicinflation; genesis; ggg; physics; science; steadystate; stringtheory
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To: Red Badger

Thanks. That was an interesting article.


61 posted on 03/30/2023 8:14:21 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: cgbg

Time machines, though fictional, could be made, but would not be practical.

Let’s say you have one that actually works.

You program it to go back or forward in time by one second.

It works.

You instantly die.

Why?

Because the Universe and everything in it is in motion.

The Earth is rotating on its axis, and is revolving around the Sun.

The Sun and all its retinue of planets, various moons, asteroids, comets and dust are in motion orbiting around the Milky Way Galaxy’s black hole at its center.

The galaxy it self is in motion in some direction away from the ‘center’ of the Universe.

The entire Universe is expanding.

So in that ONE SECOND, forward or backward, you wind up in empty space! Or, if you’re very UNLUCKY the middle of a star somewhere and are instantly vaporized.

So, time travel may be possible, but would be quite unpractical...............


62 posted on 03/30/2023 8:15:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Yes. Interesting connection.


63 posted on 03/30/2023 8:16:00 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: cgbg

And that’s just ONE reason...................

Another reason is you and the machine itself are made of atoms of various elements that may or may not have existed at the time of your choosing.

You cannot introduce mass into a Universe that already exists or does not yet exist......................


64 posted on 03/30/2023 8:18:18 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: plain talk

God loves a good pun........


65 posted on 03/30/2023 8:20:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: BipolarBob

light
ˈlīt
NOUN
something that makes vision possible
the sensation aroused by stimulation of the visual receptors


66 posted on 03/30/2023 8:22:09 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh

That’s right up there with Sam Kinison’s version of Are You Lonesome Tonight


67 posted on 03/30/2023 8:22:19 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: moonhawk

[] <—— This is the box most people put God into.

Actual size.


68 posted on 03/30/2023 8:24:27 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: golux

There is a very good reason for Greek.

John, who wrote it down, was in Greece at the time, and Greek was considered one of the ‘learned’ languages even by the Romans, who were the super power of the world at that time.

Greek as a language, and as an alphabet, has changed very little since ancient times.

For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

Acts 21:37
Paul Speaks to the Crowd
As the soldiers were about to take Paul into the barracks, he asked the commander, “May I say something to you?” “Do you speak Greek?” he replied.


69 posted on 03/30/2023 8:30:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: DannyTN

Are you lonesome tonight?
Do you miss me tonight?
Are you sorry we drifted apart?
Does your memory stray
To a bright summer day
When I kissed you and called you sweetheart?

Do the chairs in your parlor seem empty and bare?
Do you gaze at your doorstep and picture me there?
Is your heart filled with pain?
Shall I come back again?
Tell me dear, are you lonesome tonight?

I wonder if you’re lonely tonight?
I wonder a lot of things..like are you human? How do you live with yourself?
Are you a REPTILE with a NICE HAIRDO?
YOU SNAKY TRAMP!
YOU LIED TO ME!!
WHEN YOU TOLD ME YOU LOVED ME, YOU NEVER LOVED ME!!!
YOU SAID FOREVER, REMEMBER THAT?
OH THERE’S A JOKE, FOREVER!
AHAHAHAHAHA!
YEAH, FOREVER, HONEY!

What does ‘forever’ mean to you? Til another guy comes up in your life with more money and a better car?
“Oh, I’m sorry! We better break up! I’m not growing as a person! We need to get away from each other!”
YEAH, THAT WAS A GREAT IDEA!
YEAH, LET’S BREAK UP, HONEY!
DID YOU GROW ANY, HUH?! ARE YOU ANY TALLER?
I’LL TELL YOU WHAT YOU LEARNED: YOU LEARNED HOW TO BREAK MY HEART!

But I’d rather go on hearing your lies
Than to go on living without you
That’s how sick I am!
Well I’m standing here, now the stage is bare
OH, I CAN’T SAY IT!
YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID!
YOU WERE WRONG!
SAY IT, YOU STUPID, STUTTERING PIG!
“I WAS WRONG!” UGH!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!

Is your heart filled with pain?
Shall I come back again?
Tell me dear, are you lonesome tonight?

I hope you die...


70 posted on 03/30/2023 8:37:13 AM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh (wake me up when somebody tells the truth)
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To: Red Badger

Would be worth a fortune today.


71 posted on 03/30/2023 8:40:44 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: Red Badger

You do know, of course, that you are a time machine.

You just move forward in one direction—very slowly.

;-)

Time travel depends on everything already existing at the same time—past, present, future—and then the machine is just a way to move around....

The concept is like a reel of film.

The film is already made—but if you were a character in the film you just play your part—the time traveler can see any part of the film at any time, in any order.

Whether that is actually how the universe works—I have no clue—but imho the critics of time travel have no clue either.


72 posted on 03/30/2023 8:40:51 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: All

When I was in school, there were two theories of the universe, one being expanding and the other steady state. The big bang is just man’s feeble attempt to explain the unexplainable. The observed “expansion” of the universe is due to a defect in the speed of light (it can be deflected by gravity: thus it has mass) causing far off object to appear that they are traveling away from us at an ever increasing rate. My money is on steady state.


73 posted on 03/30/2023 8:41:44 AM PDT by bennowens
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To: MeganC

LOL. Is that before or after “The Bang”?


74 posted on 03/30/2023 8:42:31 AM PDT by moonhawk (Unleash the MAGAhideen!)
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To: cgbg

Where I used to work, we had a RF Screen room where I tested electronics devices without interference from other RF sources.

It was essentially a big metal box about 10 ft cubed, and walls to inches thick and grounded.

Once the door was closed no signals in or out.

I put a sign on the front door:

CAUTION:
TIME MACHINE!
ONCE YOU ENTER YOU WILL EXIT IN THE FUTURE!
ONE WAY TRIPS ONLY!


75 posted on 03/30/2023 8:49:17 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Good stuff!


76 posted on 03/30/2023 8:50:22 AM PDT by Track9 (You are far too inquisitive not to be seduced…)
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To: Red Badger
"...smaller, denser and hotter."


77 posted on 03/30/2023 8:54:01 AM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: Red Badger

Yada, yada, yada.... don’t they know it’s turtles all the way down?
Now I wanna’ know what came before the “pre” big bang event.


78 posted on 03/30/2023 8:57:32 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: Red Badger

Yeah. And where did Universe -1 come from? Science still doesn’t know where the energy came from to squeeze the entire Universe into a hot, dense state in a ball the size of a pea.

Keep trying.


79 posted on 03/30/2023 8:58:23 AM PDT by I want the USA back (No one is assigned sex at birth. One's sex is noted and recorded. My pronouns Haha, hehe, hoho, hoo )
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To: Red Badger

arbitrarily

Your guess is as good as mine.


80 posted on 03/30/2023 9:00:45 AM PDT by TomGuy
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