Posted on 04/05/2021 7:29:02 AM PDT by Red Badger
(© Elvis Popovic/CGS Society) PHYSICS In a Comprehensive Test, The 'Impossible' EM Drive Has Failed to Produce Thrust… Again PAUL M. SUTTER, UNIVERSE TODAY5 APRIL 2021 The EM Drive is a hypothetical rocket that proponents claim can generate thrust with no exhaust. This would violate all known physics. In 2016, a team at NASA's Eagleworks lab claimed to measure thrust from an EM Drive device, the news of which caused quite a stir.
The latest attempt to replicate the shocking results has resulted in a simple answer: the Eagleworks measurement was from heating of the engine mount, not any new physics.
The EM Drive is a relatively simple device: it's an empty cavity that isn't perfectly symmetrical.
According to proponents of the EM Drive, by bouncing electromagnetic radiation within the cavity, the tapering in the cavity result in a net thrust of the engine, despite nothing leaking from the drive.
In 2016, a team at NASA's Eagelworks lab reportedly measured a net thrust from their EM Drive experiment, which they claimed was a revolution in our understanding of physics and the future of spaceflight.
Physicists were…skeptical. Conservation of momentum dictates that a stationary object cannot move without a net force acting on it, which the Eagleworks experiment claimed to violate.
But conservation of momentum has been tested countless times over centuries – in fact, that principle forms the bedrock of almost every single theory of physics. So, in essence, almost every time physics is tested, so is the conservation of momentum.
The results of the Eagleworks experiment were not very strong. While the team claimed to measure a thrust, it wasn't very statistically significant, and appeared to be a result of "cherry-picking" – the authors watching random fluctuations and waiting for the right time to report their results.
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But in the spirit of scientific replication, a team at the Dresden University of Technology led by Professor Martin Tajmar rebuilt the Eagleworks experimental setup.
And they found squat.
Reporting their results in the Proceedings of Space Propulsion Conference 2020, Professor Tajmar said:
"We found out that the cause of the 'thrust' was a thermal effect. For our tests, we used NASAs EM Drive configuration from White et al. (which was used at the Eagleworks laboratories, because it is best documented and the results were published in the Journal of Propulsion and Power.)
With the aid of a new measuring scale structure and different suspension points of the same engine, we were able to reproduce apparent thrust forces similar to those measured by the NASA team, but also to make them disappear by means of a point suspension."
In essence, the Eagleworks EM Drive apparent thrust came from a heating of the scale they used to measure the thrust, not from any movement of the drive itself.
"When power flows into the EM Drive, the engine warms up. This also causes the fastening elements on the scale to warp, causing the scale to move to a new zero point. We were able to prevent that in an improved structure," Professor Tajmar continued.
His conclusion puts the final nail in the coffin for EM Drive dreams: "Our measurements refute all EM Drive claims by at least three orders of magnitude."
This article was originally published by Universe Today. Read the original article.
re: “But “pushing against air’ is how JET engines work.”
I think AgentJayZ on YT would disagree with you; he’s the jet engine guy who goes into the theory and practicality of jet engines.
Besides, ALL you’ve got to work with at sea level is ~ 14.7 pounds per sq inch ...
“Exhaust Pressure: Jet Engine Mistakes 2”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3nKpHWcJA4
Yeah... but we live in a world where people think that cutting off their beeber’s will turn them into women and that women are actually men, even though there is no science behind it.
re: “The EM Drive is a relatively simple device: it’s an empty cavity that isn’t perfectly symmetrical.
According to proponents of the EM Drive, by bouncing electromagnetic radiation within the cavity, the tapering in the cavity result in a net thrust of the engine, despite nothing leaking from the drive. “
“Radiation Pressure” from an antenna is one thing, what they’re trying is another ...
If I had his teacher at that age, I may as well not have been in science class either.
I was taught by the Sisters of Perpetual Scowling.
:^D Knuckle scars? :^)
It’d work just fine if the Democrats would just repeal the Laws of Thermodynamics ...
Obama most likely contracted the development of this device to his Muslim buddies. After all, if they dupe a billion people to believe that a piece of a meteor is god, then they could dupe the rest of the world to believe they could generate thrust by bouncing EM waves inside a fancy tube.
Dang physics keeps getting in the way.
You're wrong. Rocket propellant pushes against the rocket. The rocket pushes against the propellant.
Newton's third law of motion.
Just like a liberal's head, doesn't work and nothing comes out..............
By the time they have that drive figured out I might have a spore drive working...
Ion drive is the immediate future................
LOL!
Nice summation.
Wow, glad I grabbed that cat gif earlier!
It worked in the movie “Barbarella” /LOL
Yeah, I dont know what happened to it. Do you?
They’ll teach you physics and then barf up a mouse head on the carpet.
Must be it got pulled, or the conscientious manager of the website didn’t like all the “pulls” from here.
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