Posted on 08/12/2018 7:56:38 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
...But Keller doesnt buy any of it. Its like a fairy tale: Big rock from sky hits the dinosaurs, and boom they go. And it has all the aspects of a really nice story, she said. Its just not true.
...Kellers resistance has put her at the core of one of the most rancorous and longest-running controversies in science. Its like the Thirty Years War, says Kirk Johnson, the director of the Smithsonians National Museum of Natural History. Impacters case-closed confidence belies decades of vicious infighting, with the two sides trading accusations of slander, sabotage, threats, discrimination, spurious data, and attempts to torpedo careers. Ive never come across anything thats been so acrimonious, Kerr says. Im almost speechless because of it. Keller keeps a running list of insults that other scientists have hurled at her, either behind her back or to her face. She says shes been called a bitch and the most dangerous woman in the world, who should be stoned and burned at the stake.
...Although Kellers father enlisted his brood to tend the landworking them so hard that a neighbor once reported himthe family constantly teetered on the brink of bankruptcy. To put meat on the table, Kellers mother once stewed up one of the cats the family kept on the farm. Another time, she gave an older daughter some fresh mutton as a giftin actuality, Kellers butchered pet dog.
(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...
Extinction theories about dinosaurs tend to claim that environmental changes wrecked the food supply and the big beasts starved to death.
One problem is that many dinosaurs were no bigger than chickens. So why would they die out while larger reptiles survived?
Also, the dinosaurs may have died out quickly on a geological scale, but it still took thousands of years at least. It was not overnight by any means.
Need new theories that fit the data. Not reliance on flawed theories that are simply attractive.
My grandson asked what happened to the dinosaurs...
Told him they were all killed by Henry Ford to make into seat-covers for Model T Fords.
“Some say the reason the Norwegians succeed in Polar exploration... An Englishman would NEVER eat his dog”
If you are ever in Antarctica stop by the R.F. Scott cabin and just outside is a blackened, desiccated curled up in a ball dog, in a small little dog house. Scott decided because he was English, not to eat his dog. And the dog succumbed to inclement weather.
A Chicxulub-sized event rings the planet like a bell, any fault that is near its critical strain is apt to let loose.
Doctors and coroners have a term, coup contercoup, that means damage to the opposite side of the brain from where the skull was struck.
Imagine you are standing on the spot exactly on the opposite side from the strike. The shock waves race around the globe and come together (focus, if you will) right under your feet!
On a lower gravity bodies such as the moon, big impacts have delivered sufficient coup countercoup force to jet material off into space.
I don’t doubt that nearby magma would be squirted up through the resulting shattered bedrock.
Add to that the fact that Chicxulub was a shallow water strike and the surrounding sea formed a wall around the white hot crater as it attempted to flood in. It was like a 120 mile wide rocket nozzle jetting vaporized seawater and any entrained atmosphere into space. As the crater was quenched, the force of the boiling reduced, and the remaining flood of sea water and air steam-cleaned half the planet.
It was a bad day.
On land nothing larger than a house cat survived. I suspect all the surviving animals were burrow dwellers, animals already used to breathing lower oxygen content than their larger peers. The thinned atmosphere was a final insult to the bigger surface dwellers.
From the Berkeley News article:
Richards teamed up with experts in many areas to try to discover faults with his radical idea that the impact triggered the Deccan eruptions, but instead came up with supporting evidence. Paul Renne, a professor in residence in the UC Berkeley Department of Earth and Planetary Science and director of the Berkeley Geochronology Center, re-dated the asteroid impact and mass extinction two years ago and found them essentially simultaneous, but also within approximately 100,000 years of the largest Deccan eruptions, referred to as the Wai subgroup flows, which produced about 70 percent of the lavas that now stretch across the Indian subcontinent from Mumbai to Kolkata.
...Co-authors of the paper, in addition to Richards, Renne, Manga and Sprain, are Walter Alvarez, a UC Berkeley professor emeritus of earth and planetary science and the co-originator of the dinosaur-killing asteroid theory...
From The Atlantic article
Over and over, Keller saw no evidence of a sudden mass killing. Instead, she found more proof that the Earths fauna grew progressively more distressed starting 300,000 years before the extinction. The forams, for example, gradually shrank, declined in number, and showed less diversity, until only a handful of species remainedresults consistent with what many paleontologists have observed for animals on land during the same time.
...Alvarez had set the tone. His numerous scientific exploitswinning the Nobel Prize in Physics, flying alongside the crew that bombed Hiroshima, X-raying Egypts pyramids in search of secret chambershad earned him renown far beyond academia
NB: Walter Alvarez is the son of Luis Walter Alvarez the Nobel Physicist, that has done it all, including early work on the K-T Boundry with his son.
Also, note the minor(?) difference of 200k years between the two camps?
Told him they were all killed by Henry Ford to make into seat-covers for Model T Fords.
Only the Giant Naguas, for the Naugahyde.
To which I might add, ringing the planet like a bell and smacking the opposite side with converging shock waves would probably have much the same effect on a pocket of dissolved gas-filled magma that shaking and dropping a bottle of soda would have on the soda.
I know what killed off the dinosaurs. Saw it in an ad -
“Bad Eggs, Kid, Bad Eggs”. /sarc re bad ads
Seems to me Bob Bakker has been making similar arguments for many years:
She's dumb, and wrong, and unfit for tenure. Thanks DUMBGRUNT.
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She's dumb, and wrong, and unfit for tenure. Thanks DUMBGRUNT.
Hey, maybe they're related to Elizabeth Warren, or Chinese..
The lady has an alternate explanation for the extinction of dinosaurs. It seems possible. But why do the establishment "scientists" have to destroy someone with another viewpoint?
It reminds me of all the phony "global warming scientists" who smear and malign anyone who doubts their hypothesis. There is a lesson in this story.
+1 for coup and knowledge of reflection /focusing of vibrations in a round object.
bttt
Larger than a house cat, not a burrow dweller
Was at the supposed ground Zero, apparently had an OK day.
And polar bears don't eat penguins.
Two things stand out from this long and interesting article. First, both sides are violating an important aspect of science which is to be unbiased when interpreting data. Both sides are so personally invested in their argument that they will not accept opposing data. They also are working to prove their own pet theory rather than looking for or considering data that might disprove it. Second, both sides have been working feverishly for decades to answer a question that essentially has NO VALUE. Other than satisfying idle curiosity what benefit is there to knowing what killed the dinosaurs a hundred million years ago? Does it make any difference whether it was an impact or volcanism? It is interesting but not important.
I’m old enough that I was taught that we weren’t sure why the dinosaurs went extinct. The meteor was in the list of contributing possibilities, but changing weather (global cooling, through not anthropogenic), emergence of new species competing for food, other species eating vulnerable dinosaur eggs, etc.
“But why do the establishment “scientists” have to destroy someone with another viewpoint?”
After I left the Grunt life to be a wage slave...
I picked up a new ditty about my fellow ‘workers’.
That bunch can never starve to death, for they will eat each other first.
True then, true now.
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