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vanity ^ | March 19 2019 | little jeremiah

Posted on 03/19/2019 5:52:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah

Many FReepers have knowledge to share about improving and maintaining health and would like to share it and learn from others; and others may not know much yet but want to learn. Some of us don't have much money for good insurance or doctors, some want to try other methods besides prescription meds, and some have experience in treating and solving health problems.

More and more "regular" doctors have accepted treatment methods such as the benefits of acupuncture, massage for many conditions, better diet, use of herbs and so on. There are limits, and often side effects, to some standard medical efforts.

My field is Ayurvedic herbalism and related measures, and have a lot of information I can post when I have time. I have seen herbs and sometimes dietary changes help people (including myself) with issues such as rheumatoid arthritis, high BP, gallstones, kidneystones, repeated boils, UTIs, prostate problems, insomnia, allergies, urinary incontinence, and many more. I hope to learn a lot from others with their knowledge and experience.

There are many "old fashioned" home care methods that were in common use a few generations ago that actually work and are cheap, such as castor oil packs, fomentations using alternating hot and cold water, and the like, which are easy to do. I am sure there is a lot of knowledge here on Free Republic that can be shared.

I would like this thread to stay civil without distruption, so my request is that people who think natural health methods are bunkum, make your own thread.


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L.J., if this isn’t allowed, just delete.

A while back I posted about how healthy Tahini is for your immune system and how it’s a natural anti-viral, among other things. The same lady that gave me the info about Tahini also gave me a recipe for homemade Lebanese Hummus. I did mine in a food processor and used canned beans. It’s much faster that way and you don’t have to soak dry beans in soda water. :-) I’m lazy that way.

Homemade Hummus

2C dry Garbanzo Beans, soaked overnight or 2 canned Garbanzo beans (they also have canned mashed Gar Beans)

1/2 teaspoon baking soda (the soda goes in the dry beans)

4 heaping tablespoons Tahini

3 cloves of Garlic

1/2 C Lemon Juice

1/2 teaspoon salt

2 tablespoons olive oil

Quick Blender Method: Blend garlic, salt and lemon juice in the blender. Pour into a bowl. Blend the garbanzo beans (drained) one cup at a time with 1/8 cup water. Stir this into the bowl. Stir in Tahini, 1/4 cup warm water, and olive oil. Taste and add more lemon or salt, if necessary.

Quickest Food Processor: Put all ingredients into food processor and pulse or blend, add a little warm water: taste and add more water, lemon juice, tahini, salt or garlic to suit your own taste.


Mine was perfect and much better than even the Sabra I have been eating. It makes a lot, so I put about a third of it in an old smaller Sabra plastic container and froze it. You put olive oil over the top as a coating before freezing. I thawed it out today and it’s as good as when I froze it.


1,201 posted on 02/04/2022 7:12:01 AM PST by Tennessee Conservative (My goal in life is to be the person my dogs think I am)
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Interesting. A couple decades ago, I made my own hummus for as long as it took to use up the rather large jar of tahini that I’d bought. Afterwards, I never did it again - too much bother. Now I just buy a family size tub at BJs Wholesale Club each month when we make our supply run there.

BTW, hummus and avocado mix beautifully together - I forget if we discussed that! And now you say that hummus freezes well. Maybe that would be a better way to freeze my avocados (just thinking out loud here).


1,202 posted on 02/09/2022 11:57:31 AM PST by 17strings (There are 2 means of refuge from the miseries of life, music & cats. - A. Schweitzer)
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To: 17strings

I put the hummus on top of my cut-up avocado and it’s great! I make a salad of baby spinach, cut avocado, hummus, and some lite Italian dressing. Using a food processor makes the hummus making process much easier.


1,203 posted on 02/09/2022 12:01:44 PM PST by Tennessee Conservative (My goal in life is to be the person my dogs think I am)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Yeah, that’s how I made hummus too, but even with the food processor, it was still too much bother. (Can you tell I hate all food preparation tasks in general?)


1,204 posted on 02/09/2022 12:13:24 PM PST by 17strings (There are 2 means of refuge from the miseries of life, music & cats. - A. Schweitzer)
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To: 17strings

LOL, I’m not much of a cook. If I didn’t have a food processor, I wouldn’t do a lot that I do.

I do cook all of my dog’s wet food and give them dry dog food on the side. My little spoiled brats get boiled grass-fed Bison and rice plus dry food that is almost $90 for a 16 pound bag. Two of them were poisoned by Nexgard about three years ago and some dog foods cause them digestive issues. I’m glad they are little and only two of them eat homemade food.


1,205 posted on 02/09/2022 12:22:19 PM PST by Tennessee Conservative (My goal in life is to be the person my dogs think I am)
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To: 17strings
This isn't exactly "natural" health, but perhaps some alternative health will fit in here as well. About a month ago I developed this weird rash just above my right inner ankle:

Rash

It started as an irregular area covered with reddish pinpricks and then gradually worsened into what you see in the photo. My chiropractor was kind of stunned when she saw it about a week in, and diagnosed it as psoriasis. I tried creams and essential oils, but it just kept getting worse. Acupuncture by the lovely Miss Kate didn't help. Anti-itch cream at least prevented it from itching.

I finally got a clue when I saw that trail of new dots leading to the upper right. These were living things inside my skin -- parasites! I also noticed a few pinpricks on the inner side of my left leg, at the same elevation, so perhaps they were migrating where the legs touched during sleep.

Fortunately I still have some of that evil horse paste (ivermectin, in other words). I spread the tiniest amount on the rash, including the trail heading north. (This is when I sent an earlier message, on another thread, about topical use of ivermectin.)

Three days later, the rash has calmed down to being pink, and appears to be healing rapidly. The AZLiberty Medical Research Group declares another victory for ivermectin. (I plan to take an oral dose to make sure. I have been using niacin instead of ivermectin for Coof prevention, apparently leaving me vulnerable to parasites.)

I’m guessing that I got them from sleeping on a bed that our six-month old kittens played on. This would mean that the kittens have parasites, and that might explain the soft stools and perhaps even the nasal symptoms that they have had since we got them at the end of October.

1,206 posted on 02/12/2022 2:54:11 PM PST by AZLiberty (All I want for Valentine's Day is my President Trump back in office.)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Been there and done that with both cooked and raw homemade food for my cats, usually just when one is elderly, ailing or has a special dietary need. It may be in the works again soon...

So sorry to hear your dogs were poisoned. Nexgard is an anti-parasitic thing, right? I am skittish about all such products, and hence put up with fleas instead. I wish there were a safe and natural way to get rid of those!


1,207 posted on 02/13/2022 4:46:35 PM PST by 17strings (There are 2 means of refuge from the miseries of life, music & cats. - A. Schweitzer)
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Wow, that is wild! Despite the (aforementioned to TC) flea problem we have here, the worst I’ve ever gotten is a fleabite in my sleep once in a great while. It’s funny how the little bastages like some of our cats more than they do others. Must be something in the blood. But we do try to keep the cats from getting the often-resultant tapeworms by giving large doses of food-grade diatomaceous earth mixed in their food at every meal. So far it seems to work - no telltale white squigglies by their butts. LOL We take the DE as well in juice. (We don’t have white squigglies either!)

I would absolutely LOVE to find a safe and effective natural flea killing treatment for pets, though. I’ve followed up various claims that all have fallen short.

As to Ivermectin... have you ever wondered about the way Dr Dimitry is so adamantly against the stuff, posting his ominous-sounding studies, and there are people on his chat that have suffered bad side effects from it? Everything we read elsewhere is that it’s perfectly safe, etc., and we read all the testimonials right here on FR about how well it worked for so many people, and even far beyond just for the coof. Such conflicting information. So what is the real deal here? One result of it all is that it’s made me completely wary, averse even, about taking IVM, horse paste or otherwise, because I feel that if someone were to get an adverse effect, it would most likely be me, since I tend that way to begin with when it comes to drug medicines.

I should probably post this last musing over on the Nia-flavorofthemonth thread...


1,208 posted on 02/13/2022 4:53:06 PM PST by 17strings (There are 2 means of refuge from the miseries of life, music & cats. - A. Schweitzer)
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To: 17strings

Nexgard is a flea and tick chewable. Now I use the Seresto collar if needed because it can be removed. They do fine as long as you get the real thing and not a knock off collar. Fleas and ticks are a huge problem in the south. I powder the inside and outside with diatomaceous earth instead of using sprays but sometimes that’s not enough. My dogs won’t take anymore chewables. I get pure ivermectin tablets from a Canadian pet pharmacy for heartworm prevention.


1,209 posted on 02/13/2022 5:17:04 PM PST by Tennessee Conservative (My goal in life is to be the person my dogs think I am)
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To: 17strings

I don’t get Dmitry’s aversion to ivermectin, but I can easily imagine that some individuals might be allergic to it, as with penicillin.

Dmitry, like many geniuses, has some issues — but he’s doing some amazing things for humanity.


1,210 posted on 02/13/2022 7:57:19 PM PST by AZLiberty (All I want for Valentine's Day is my President Trump back in office.)
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To: 17strings

I have no idea why this person would be so adamantly opposed to Ivermectin, as countless studies have been done on its usefulness and safety. I’ve taken two rounds of it and have had zero ill effcts.

I am allergic or react very badly to almost every prescription drug I have ever had, including anaphylactic shock from penicillin (code red in hospital fortunately), sulfa drugs, opiods, cephalex and other non-penicillin antibiotics), epinephrine, tamoxifen (which hardly anyone has side effects to). I have MCS (multiple chemical sensitivity) and react badly to many, many ordinary substances. If there was a canary in the coal mine, it is me. And ivermectin was no problem at all. Heck, I can’t even take Melatonin!


1,211 posted on 02/16/2022 5:47:38 PM PST by little jeremiah (Where We Go One We Go All)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

I really like hummous and make a sort of version of it not infrequently. Only thing I cannot handle is beans cooked with or soaked in baking soda. I cook most beans in a pressure cooker after soaking overnight and they seem to be non-gassy that way. I soak until swollen up and “alive”.

I also make a tahini sauce that is yummy on vegetables, salads, or dipping toast into.


1,212 posted on 02/16/2022 5:49:46 PM PST by little jeremiah (Where We Go One We Go All)
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To: Mercat; Pete from Shawnee Mission

Reposting all the cancer info I could find, so all in one comment.

Herbs and other things for treating, and some help with prevention of, Cancer. The dosage of any of these is rather subjective, depending on weight, condition and so on. Please ask if any questions and I might be able to help. I took a LOT of herbs - 1 t. or more a day of Guduchi, Ashwagandha, Shatavari, Turmeric, Vitex (Chaste Tree Berry) and Matcha for starters. I recommend powdered herbs rather than making tea. Also I can post sources

Sorry about long amazon links. There are no doubt other natural medicinals that may help with cancer; these are ones I used or know about. I think the large quantities of herbs I took before and after surgery helped my “cancer free” test 10 months after surgery.

Many of these herbs can be taken as preventatives, dose is subjective in many cases depending on health status, age, etc. If anyone has questions, just ask. If I don’t know, I will say so!

Turkey Tails - Coriolus versicolor
A tree fungus that grows mostly on dead hardwood. Used in China and Japan for cancer; strengthens immune system and has anti-cancer benefits. I used this brand, tablets are huge but I put in a cup, added about 1/3 c. hot water, it dissolved fast, and drank it. They also grow on my property but when I needed them, the gallon jar they were in was full of bugs. I am re-collecting them.

https://www.amazon.com/Planetary-Herbals-Coriolus-Spectrum-Powerful/dp/B006X1ER6I

Other brand I used. I do not use herbs from China, so check sources.

https://www.amazon.com/Turkey-Tail-Mushroom-Supplement-Capsules/dp/B07MTSTN2V/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2N6YRDC55UC6G&keywords=turkey+tail&qid=1642733009&s=hpc&sprefix=Turkey+tail%2Chpc%2C217&sr=1-5

Shatavari Asparagus racemosus
Immune strengthener, for conditions of debility, support during cancer treatments, especially good for breast or prostate cancer, can take long term.

Ashwaganda
Immune strengthener, conditions of debility, stress and many other benefits, can take long term

Guduchi Tinospora cordifolia
Builds immune system, clears channels, strong detoxifier without weakening the body, good support for people with cancer, broad spectrum antimicrobial, helps metabolism

Manjista Rubia cordifolia-radix
Anti-tumor both benign and cancer, clears blood of toxins, promotes circulation, promotes wound healing, anti-inflammatory, other uses as well (gall/kidney stones and more)

Neem - Azadiracta indica
Used for tumors (benign) and cancer, anti-inflammatory, anti-viral and much more

Matcha – or any green tea, matcha is the best for using as anti-cancer (recommend getting only Japanese)
Naturopath recommended, and I found matcha is stronger in the constituents said to be helpful against cancer. I found a lot of Ito En at Grocery Outlet at very good prices.
Green tea and green tea polyphenols (GTPs) are reported to inhibit carcinogenesis and malignant behavior in several diseases

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6164790/

Early clinical studies suggest that the polyphenols in tea, especially green tea, may play an important role in the prevention of cancer. Researchers also believe that polyphenols help kill cancerous cells and stop them from growing.
https://www.mountsinai.org/health-library/herb/green-tea

Ito En Matcha – plain, below is sweetened, a lot cheaper
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PFDH0IC?pd_rd_i=B00PFDH0IC&pd_rd_w=cnkwa&pf_rd_p=faa90cdd-671c-4d4c-a2bd-e438f0be59e9&pd_rd_wg=uW0KD&pf_rd_r=ZKKQ9EY1EGN3HFE5PWMJ&pd_rd_r=85a468f9-0eea-4de1-b26b-88efb1965211
https://www.amazon.com/Ito-En-Sweetened-Antioxidant-Japanese/dp/B01CI57V10/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1CIVUI13O06QM&keywords=Ito%2Ben%2Bmatcha&qid=1642715493&s=gift-cards&sprefix=ito%2Ben%2Bmatcha%2Cgift-cards%2C206&sr=1-2&th=1
https://itoen.com/collections/matcha-powder

Graviola – Annona Muricata , Soursop leaf extract
Not much info out there, but considered to have many uses, including helping growth of new healthy tissues; has helped cure very bad GERD, and much anecdotal anti-cancer evidence.

https://www.amazon.com/Organic-Graviola-Wildcrafted-Tincture-Muricata/dp/B011M542LE/ref=sw_img_trq_cart_ki8wduin_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B011M542LE&pd_rd_w=Wtulq&pf_rd_p=6a695cd0-a753-4d8e-bd93-70183f9a2b9b&pf_rd_r=D4NVKGHARYB76WM3PMAA&pd_rd_r=a4471635-9972-4dd3-8cf5-e3c0c89d2441&pd_rd_wg=hb3kI

Turmeric -
Anti-cancer, wound healing, anti-inflammatory, helps circulation and a lot more

Prunella – Self-heal, Heal-all Prunella vulgaris
Used in China against cancer, also anti-viral/anti-bacterial, high BP, fevers

Melatonin
Recommended by my Naturopath MD, not sure of dosage, considered good against cancer. I react badly to it (very rare).

Modified Citrus Pectin
Recommended by my Dr, said to help scavange cancer cells in the system and remove from the body. Especially useful around surgery, biopsy or other procedures. I used this brand, there are many others.

https://www.amazon.com/Allergy-Research-Group-Molecular-Vegetarian/dp/B000M8SL60/ref=sr_1_8?crid=1KZ0Z1U7EZ232&keywords=modified+citrus+pectin&qid=1642731886&s=hpc&sprefix=modified+citrus+pectinp%2Chpc%2C164&sr=1-8

Another brand that looks good and has useful info and reviews:
https://www.amazon.com/EcoNugenics-PectaSol-Modified-Total-Body-Optimal/dp/B0024NLDV6/ref=sr_1_6?crid=1KZ0Z1U7EZ232&keywords=modified%2Bcitrus%2Bpectin&qid=1642731886&s=hpc&sprefix=modified%2Bcitrus%2Bpectinp%2Chpc%2C164&sr=1-6&th=1

Red Clover
Traditionally used to help in cancer treatment, primarily breast cancer, and blood cleansing. I have not used but this is a good brand, or make tea and drink.

https://www.amazon.com/Planetary-Herbals-Clover-Cleanser-Tablets/dp/B004GWEDLK/ref=sr_1_37?crid=14X22W2AK6NEE&keywords=Planetary+herbs&qid=1642732694&s=hpc&sprefix=planetary+herbs%2Chpc%2C151&sr=1-37

Licorice if high BP is an issue use de-glycerized.
Helpful to protect liver during cancer chemo treatments, anti-inflammatory,anti-viral, good for hyperacidity and many other benefits

Red Root
Recommended by my Dr as the two sentinal lymph nodes had cancer in and around. Red Root is specific for cleansing the lymph nodes and system. It also helped a friend with recurring swollen lymph nodes.

Looks like a good brand:
https://www.amazon.com/Alcohol-FREE-Extract-Wildcrafted-Ceanothus-Americanus/dp/B01MU63YTJ/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=red+root+tincture&qid=1642813532&sr=8-5

Vit D3
Important immune support, with larger doses one needs to be careful about balancing.

Quercetin
I did not know about Quercetin when I had cancer, but it sounds like something to add.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4808895/

“Quercetin, a flavonoid found in fruits and vegetables, has unique biological properties that may improve mental/physical performance and reduce infection risk [1]. These properties form the basis for potential benefits to overall health and disease resistance, including anti-carcinogenic, anti-inflammatory, antiviral, antioxidant, and psychostimulant activities, as well as the ability to inhibit lipid peroxidation, platelet aggregation and capillary permeability, and to stimulate mitochondrial biogenesis [2]. Therefore, there is a pressing need for well-designed clinical trials to evaluate this novel dietary supplement further. This article reviews effects of quercetin on inflammation and immunity in mental and physical performance and health.”

Especially for breast cancer, the first two do more or less what Tamoxifen does, as does Shatavari (above).

Flax seeds (at least 3 T) especially used ground eaten in cottage cheese, or however one can get them down, considered a good preventive as well as for treating cancer.

Vitex/Chaste Tree Berry - helps protect and reduce lumps in breast, also generally anti-cancer.

And - good info on cancer and Ivermectin.

https://gab.com/bonafideone/posts/107668567934268859

Ivermectin, a potential anticancer drug derived from an antiparasitic drug

Ivermectin has powerful antitumor effects, including the inhibition of proliferation, metastasis, and angiogenic activity, in a variety of cancer cells. This may be related to the regulation of multiple signaling pathways by ivermectin through PAK1 kinase. On the other hand, ivermectin promotes programmed cancer cell death, including apoptosis, autophagy and pyroptosis. Ivermectin induces apoptosis and autophagy is mutually regulated. Interestingly, ivermectin can also inhibit tumor stem cells and reverse multidrug resistance and exerts the optimal effect when used in combination with other chemotherapy drugs.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7505114/

This is another anti-parasiticide that has been used successfully when treating cancer. I do not have any personal knowledge or experience with it, but others have had.

Levamisole ... but more prominently reviewed: fenbendazole
https://www.fenbendazole.org/2019/12/19/what-is-fenbendazole-and-how-can-it-affect-cancer-treatment/
https://www.jefferspet.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&animal%5B%5D=&q=fenbendazole&button=search

From a FReeper:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4015365/posts?page=1150#1150

I’m behind in the conversation so please forgive me if I am repeating anything. My cousin was diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer earlier this year. Went to MD Anderson and was started on a regime of chemo and radiation. But stage 4 is pretty much a death sentence. He was not a candidate for the whipped procedure because the tumor was intwined in the blood vessels too. After several weeks of treatment, went back for a check up. While the tumor had shrunk some, the surgeon told him there was nothing more they could do and to basically go home and die. He knew a couple of friends/acquaintances that tried Joe Tippens protocol dosage for cancer. It is was he did with his battle with cancer, and is now in remission. (Several videos on YouTube.) His protocol does include Fenbendazole (used in dogs as a dewormer). After that visit, he started the protocol (using the dog form). He went in for another checkup in September and the tumor has shrunk significantly and has started to unwind from his blood vessels. His blood work also showed his cancer markers are in the normal range. As a matter of fact, his chemo doctor (not surgeon) has taken him off chemo and radiation for now. Wants to see what happens. He was told to go live his life. He is actually eating again and has put back on about 15 pounds. My cousin has not told him about what he is doing right now, but eventually will. He goes to MD Anderson for another follow up next week and we are all praying that God is still in control and healing his cancer. My cousin firmly believes parasites cause many cancers. He is a cattle rancher and exposed to many.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4808895/


1,213 posted on 02/16/2022 6:11:41 PM PST by little jeremiah (Where We Go One We Go All)
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To: little jeremiah

L. J. Thank you! Here are two more! The articles contain information on the types of cancer and how it affects them.

Black Garlic, which according to this has an effect on a number of types of cancer.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8401630/

Black Cumin Seed

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6535880/


1,214 posted on 02/16/2022 7:39:07 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: little jeremiah

:-) I am lazy. I use the Goya canned beans.


1,215 posted on 02/17/2022 3:07:33 AM PST by Tennessee Conservative (My goal in life is to be the person my dogs think I am)
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To: Tennessee Conservative
:-) I am lazy. I use the Goya canned beans.

I am not lazy, but I use the Goya canned beans. They are amazing. Libs don't know what they're missing.

1,216 posted on 02/17/2022 6:22:54 PM PST by AZLiberty (All I want for Valentine's Day is my President Trump back in office -- before midnight!)
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LOL, it wasn’t a slight against Goya. They are incredible! I cook dry pinto and northern beans but when I want the hummus I want it now. I could never cook them as good as Goya.


1,217 posted on 02/18/2022 2:48:40 AM PST by Tennessee Conservative (My goal in life is to be the person my dogs think I am)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Thanks for that recipe. Going to try that today, Lord willing.


1,218 posted on 02/18/2022 2:53:10 AM PST by .30Carbine
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To: .30Carbine

Welcome! My friend adopted two Lebanese children 20 years ago and inherited an adopted Lebanese mother (children’s grandmother) in the process. The recipe is Lebanese.


1,219 posted on 02/18/2022 2:57:23 AM PST by Tennessee Conservative (My goal in life is to be the person my dogs think I am)
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To: little jeremiah

bttt nat cures


1,220 posted on 02/18/2022 1:19:38 PM PST by thinden
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