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Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.

The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.

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To: Gemsbok

Found this on how Selective Service tracks people -

https://www.sss.gov/QA.HTM#question30

Why did I receive a registration reminder card at my home? How did Selective Service get my name?

Selective Service got your name from one of the many lists used to identify people who may be eligible to register. It may have been a driver’s license list from a state Department of Motor Vehicles, a list from a Federal or state agency such as the Department of Education, the Immigration and Naturalization Service, the Department of Labor’s JTPA or Job Corps Program, the Department of Defense’s recruiting list, or from a high school list.


3,641 posted on 07/15/2008 10:45:55 PM PDT by RubyR
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To: Political Junkie Too

But the back would be blank and a scan of it wouldnt ‘authenticate’ something we agree cannot really be authenticated 100% if the original paper copy isn’t shared.

The Obama shared the COLB to *show* Obama’s place of birth, not *prove* his place of birth without a reasonable doubt.


3,642 posted on 07/15/2008 11:05:26 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: WOSG

Correcting my last sentence: The Obama shared the COLB *image* to *show* Obama’s place of birth, not *prove* his place of birth *beyond* a reasonable doubt.


3,643 posted on 07/15/2008 11:06:24 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: WOSG
"The Obama shared the COLB *image* to *show* Obama’s place of birth, not *prove* his place of birth *beyond* a reasonable doubt."

Interesting comment. Sort of like a birth announcement instead of a legal document? Why do you suppose he did that?

3,644 posted on 07/16/2008 5:27:05 AM PDT by OldEagle
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To: Spunky
when Obama was three weeks old.

bttt

3,645 posted on 07/16/2008 5:33:26 AM PDT by txhurl
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2046311/posts
Brief Review of “Obama: The Man Behind The Mask”


3,646 posted on 07/16/2008 7:45:11 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Spunky

The one Mercer Island friend said Stanley (that’s the name she used — not Ann or Ann Stanley, just Stanley) did not seem to know how to change a diaper. A new mom learns how to change a diaper within the first four days, typically.


3,647 posted on 07/16/2008 8:42:42 AM PDT by bvw
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To: WOSG
But the back would be blank and a scan of it wouldnt ‘authenticate’ something we agree cannot really be authenticated 100% if the original paper copy isn’t shared.Why would the back be blank?

Won't it have the signature block on it?

-PJ

3,648 posted on 07/16/2008 9:53:10 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: bvw
The one Mercer Island friend said Stanley (that’s the name she used — not Ann or Ann Stanley, just Stanley) did not seem to know how to change a diaper. A new mom learns how to change a diaper within the first four days, typically.

We have seen more than one version of the Susan Blake interview. The early versions don't put this in week three of August, they are "shortly after the birth" and entertain speculation that she had come from Vancouver; and that she had been out of the country when he was born.

The latest You Tube Video is a recent rendition after she has been warned about the ramifications of the too early in August concessions.

As we have discussed extensively, Vancouver BC is the return routing from Kenya to the Western half of the United States--with no direct flight to Honolulu or even San Francisco.

From personal experience, I know that British Africa return routing to Seattle in the 1960's involved a logistical issue with respect to Vancouver that sometimes involved people driving from Vancouver to Seattle; other times using other forms of ground transportation.

So recognizing that the view is speculative, it is pretty easy to see the stop at Mercer Island before she had learned to change diapers having occurred in the first week of August, 1961 on a route from Kenya to Honolulu via Vancouver BC, Seattle, and San Francisco with a stop at her friend Susan's place on the way.

You are alerted to the fairy tale element on the recently invented public story by the "on her way to visit Barack Sr. in Boston at Harvard" factor because there simply wasn't any way he was in Boston at Harvard until a year later. That part of the story, like the Birth Certificate, is a fake--you assume they fake it for some substantive reason; they don't want to say she was coming from Vancouver the week after he was born.

3,649 posted on 07/16/2008 10:14:52 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: bvw

She may have know HOW to do but being such a young mother she may not have WANTED to do it and welcomed the opportunity to pass it off to someone else.


3,650 posted on 07/16/2008 10:38:02 AM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: David
"That part of the story, like the Birth Certificate, is a fake--you assume they fake it for some substantive reason;"

You are correct. Almost everything they say is a diversion and a lot of people don't realize it yet, but there is so much it will likely be all over before the convention.

Thank you for your efforts.

3,651 posted on 07/16/2008 10:44:07 AM PDT by OldEagle
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To: bvw; txflake
Video of Susan Blake at this site. I mistakenly heard 3 weeks when Susan actually said a few weeks.

The diaper thing. Susan said Stanley was nursing when she then went Ohhh! he pooped. Here you know how to do this. So Susan changed Barry and told Stanley to get used to it because babies do this. I don't think it was so much that Stanley didn't know how to change a diaper as much as she didn't want to change a dirty diaper.

Susan Blake
Scroll down to video.

3,652 posted on 07/16/2008 11:00:39 AM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: Political Junkie Too

OK, it would be non-blank, but would it be ‘proof’ to the doubters? maybe not. You could scan another COLB and paste it together so its not a proven authenticated document.


3,653 posted on 07/16/2008 11:04:34 AM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: Albertafriend; Spunky

Yes, that’s possible sort of. She’s barely eighteen at the time, and what experience had she had with newborns, or even with mothering of newborns. She may have been ungracious in her speech.

Still ... a newborn gets changed 6-10 times a day. See

http://kidshealth.org/parent/growth/feeding/breastfeed_often.html

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070813091222AAKZYJx

If the baby is three weeks old then that baby has been changed 126 to 210 times. Even the most immature or diffident young mother has it down speedy gonzales style — quick, quick, quick — by then. By that time a diaper change is almost an autonomous series of muscle actions in reaction to a dirty or wet diaper.


3,654 posted on 07/16/2008 11:16:22 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
"Even the most immature or diffident young mother has it down speedy gonzales style — quick, quick, quick — by then."

Still doesn't mean you wouldn't pass a dirty diaper off on someone else. IIRC when I was eighteen with my firstborn I was more than willing to pass it off on my mother whenever possible. :-)

3,655 posted on 07/16/2008 11:51:34 AM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: WOSG
True, but as the analysts posting on the blogs have pointed out, there are techniques to determine likely layering and timing of changes. I somebody did in fact mock up a back side and posted it, then the analysts would likely detect that. If the back side was a true scan of the back of the posted front-side document, then no layering or aging would show up, and the seal imprint and signature block should be in the spots determined from front-side analysis.

I don't think they'd risk posting a forged back-side if they didn't have a real one. If they do have a real one, I think it's in their best interests to post it. If nothing is posted, I would assume that it doesn't exist. But as you said, the best approach would be to make the physical document available to a trusted authority.

-PJ

3,656 posted on 07/16/2008 11:54:32 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: Spunky
Don't want to load down that passing statement about the diaper change too much ;-)
3,657 posted on 07/16/2008 12:41:22 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Spunky

I’m pretty sure I was changing diapers by 13 or so. A big family. My mom actually slept in late by the eighth or so. So us older brothers had to do the do.


3,658 posted on 07/16/2008 12:43:16 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Albertafriend
She may have know HOW to do but being such a young mother she may not have WANTED to do it and welcomed the opportunity to pass it off to someone else.

Quite true.

BUT

Susan Blake didn't say she changed the diaper, she said she showed Stanley HOW TO change a diaper.

Maybe Stanley Ann was just playing dumb? Maybe itty-bitty baby Barak got his initial lessons in duplicity with his first sip of colostrum?

3,659 posted on 07/16/2008 2:29:06 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: bvw

Maybe the relatives in Kenya were very helpful to the young mom. :) ?


3,660 posted on 07/16/2008 2:33:09 PM PDT by DietCoke
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