Ancient Pyramids Discovered in Italy

whitley strieber unknowncountry.com ^ | may-2-2003 | whitley strieber unknowncountry

[green team 1999]

Ancient Pyramids Discovered in Italy

02-May-2003

On the Farshores website, Marco V. of Varese, Italy writes, "You may be interested in a discovery which has been recently made: three pyramids were discovered thanks to satellite and aerial imagery in northern Italy, in the town of Montevecchia…

They are the first pyramids ever discovered in Italy and the dimensions are quite impressive; the highest pyramid is [500 feet] tall. They are stone buildings, as recent excavations have proved. However, they are now completely covered by ground and vegetation, so that they now look like hills.

"The inclination degree of all the three pyramids is 42/43° and there is a perfect alignment with the Orion constellation (there are a lot of similarities to the Egyptian pyramids).

Their age is still undefined although they are surely older than 3,000 years.

Nothing was found nearby which may help to date the structures and in the area there was not any civilization able to build similar structures at the time (the people who lived there were mainly gatherers and hunters)."

To see photos of the pyramidsclick here

for information and discusion only,not for profit etc,etc.

[homeschool mama]

Could you please reword your last post? I'm not understanding your intent. Thank you.

[piasa]

They weren't built in "similar fashions."

Construction methods were strikingly different.

As for the shape, just give any group of toddlers from different parts of the globe a bunch of soup cans or blocks to play with, and they will all build some form of pyramid. If you try to stack things without supports below them, they fall down. If you try to stack things one on top of the other, it works, but if you stack things to any great height they are subject to being toppled easily by external forces, and in any case it's an uninteresting approach. Thus it is natural to stack things in a stable fashion, and the most basic way to approach it is to make each higher layer a little smaller than the level below, like a pyramid.

[canuck_conservative]

I think that's the Ishtar Gate you're talking about, in the Berlin Museum.

BTW, when Alexander the Great conquered Babylon (300 BC), the local astronomers there said their culture was 34,000 years old .....

[woofie]

I just found a pyramid in the laundry room.....

[ET(end tyranny)]

What about the 'seven pyramids of Rome'?

We used to have a pyramid in the laundry room, but it's gone now.

[Arkinsaw]

Whitley Streiber is just posting some news from different parts of the world,and not taking credit,he always put the link to at least one or two sources.

Hmmm, he sources the "Farshores" website which is a 100MegsFree site. Which means its somebodies blog that they don't have even have to pay for. That website sources a "Marco V." who "wrote in" with the info. Who is "Marco V.". What is his last name. Is he an archaeologist? Marco, whoever he is, says that the info has been reported in several newspapers but has not been investigated. What newspapers? As far as I know it could be Weekly World News. Perhaps Marco V. should wait until it IS investigated.

Streiber's other other link is to a tourism site for the region in Italian. I have no idea what the Italian site says, but since its a tourism site, I wouldn't rely on it for archaeological research. I would rely on it for trying to get people to come to that region as tourists.

a lot of people visit his website.

Which means absolutely nothing. Lots of people visit Art Bell, lots of people visit Playboy. That makes it no more authoritative.

Streiber can report anything he wants whether he takes credit or not. I'm merely saying that its info thats not worth a dime until its confirmed by archaeologists.

[ET(end tyranny)]

I did a search on 'Italian pyramids', and found one site.

[Arkinsaw]

I did a search on 'Italian pyramids', and found one site.

If you look on the lower right he has a link back to the same weblog referring to the email from Marco. So it looks like Marco is the source for this one also.

But I did enjoy the story about the multiple UFO crashes in Latin America.

[ET(end tyranny)]

Oh yes, I didn't scroll over to the right, just noticed that it was the same photos. And that it was another UFO site.

[First Amendment]

Some time ago on Drudge (and a couple of other places) there was an article about a new find of an ancient city under a river on the west coast of India dated 9,500 years old. Using stone, wood, high level of building skill. There may be something abou t it on this website: http://www.mcremo.com/. I've read a book or two by him and they are very scholarly and interesting, a little dry wit, and not wacky. Just not the "accepted" scientific timeline. Disproves evolution - shows a very ancient history of the human race.

[Banjoguy]

Episodes of the plague, along with killing millions of people, systematically destroyed almost all cultural knowledge in the large cities of Italy. In fact, at one time Romans forgot what the viaducts were for and thought they were for transporting olive oil. They also forgot such things as the formula for quick setting cement.

[mdmathis6]

May provide evidence for a more massive flood....Humans may have been much more spread out and advanced before the flood was sent!

[KneelBeforeZod]

i've been to giza and chichen itza. I didn't get the impression they had anything to do with each other.

also, how else are ancient cultures going to make tall structures without steel? if they didn't make pyramids, they would have just crumbled.

the real question is that if they are so advanced, why do their buildings look like structures made by 4 year olds in a sand box

[Yardstick]

How do we know they're not just ancient heaps of junked Fiats?

[brooklin]

Oh yeah... kinda like a pile! Glad we haven't lost this tech. again.

[Solamente]

While we're at it:


GONE IN SIXTY SECONDS-- SADDAM FLED IRAQ IN A CYLINDRICAL UFO?

A missing U.S. Air Force F-15 fighter and cylindrical UFOs spotted over Baghdad may provide clues to the puzzle of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's strange disappearance. "Two U.S. airmen have been missing in Iraq since their F-15E Strike Eagle crashed Sunday," April 6, 2003, "U.S. Central Command said. The airmen, who are part of the (USAF) 4th Fighter Wing at Seymour Johnson Air Force Base in North Carolina went down about 7:30 p.m. Sunday. Officials at Central Command are investigating the cause." But on Apr 10, 03, USA Today reported, "Coalition rescue teams were searching for the crew of a U.S. Air Force F-15E fighter jet that went down Monday near Tikrit. The cause of the crash was unknown."

As of this writing, neither the aircraft nor its crew have been recovered by Allied coalition forces. Tikrit is Saddam's hometown and was the last Iraqi city to fall. Saddam reportedly has a large underground base at al-Ouja, 3 kilometers (2 miles) north of Tikrit, which is where the F-15E was lost. Also, on Monday, Saddam was photographed taking a stroll in Baghdad's al-Firdos Square, looking cheerful and confident. (Editor's Comment: I saw that photo and thought Saddam looked almighty chipper for somebody who had half the U.S. Marine Corps on his doorstep.) Video footage of Saddam and his sons, Uday and Qusay, meeting with top officers of the Iraqi Republican Guard was shot on Monday and aired on Iraqi TV on Apr 9, 03. This was the last time they were seen in public.

On Apr 6, 03, at about 1 a.m. Baghdad time, five cylindrical UFOs were seen hovering over the Khulfafa mosque in the Shebab district, on the east bank of the Tigris River. The faintly luminous cylinders were "caught by a fixed, night-vision camera" and aired live on FOX (which would have been 4 p.m. Apr 5, 03 in the USA--J.T.)

"My friend Hiba Rashid said there was a UFO sighting in Shebab early Sunday morning, but she provided no details," said Ayesha al-Khatabi, one of UFO Roundup's Middle East correspondents. "I have not heard from her since Baghdad was overrun by the Anglo-American coalition. She lives in Arassat (a residential area on the south side of Baghdad--J.T.). Her family was preparing to flee across the Tigris to Karada (district) when last I heard from her."

On Apr 7, 03, a USAF B-1 Lancer bomber dropped four 2,000-pound JDAM bombs on a house in Mansur, an upscale residential neighborhood in western Baghdad. Saddam and his sons were seen entering the house just 12 minutes earlier. The house was utterly destroyed, and nine civilians nearby were killed.

"Multiple U.S. intelligence sources put Iraqi President Saddam Hussein inside a Baghdad building before it was leveled by American bombs, U.S. officials said Wednesday."

"Intelligence officials described the information that led to Monday's strike as solid but did not provide details. One source was believed to be an eyewitness who watched Saddam go inside the building."

"Britain's Guardian newspaper quoted an unidentified intelligence source Wednesday as saying Saddam 'was probably not in the building when it was bombed.' The Times of London quoted an unidentified source who said, 'We think he left the same way he arrived in the area, either by a tunnel system or by car.'"

"Ahmad Chalabi, the once-exiled leader of the Iraqi National Congress, told CNN television Wednesday that he had heard from sources inside Iraq that Saddam and his two sons survived the bombing and were in a town northeast of Baghdad when the U.S. Marines arrived."

This was the second "miraculous" escape by the Iraqi dictator. Saddam survived a similar bombing during the early morning hours of Mar 20,03, when the war began.

By Wednesday morning, not only had Saddam and his sons dropped out of sight, virtually the entire Iraqi high command had vanished, including Abid Hammoud al-Tikriti, Saddam's cousin and personal bodyguard; Barzan Ibrahim Hassan al-Tikriti, a.k.a. "Uncle Barzan," Saddam's half- brother and leader of the Mukhabarat (Iraqi secret police- -J.T.); and Watban Ibrahim al-Tikriti, Saddam's other half-brother and former Minister of the Interior. (Editor's Note: On Apr 13,03, Watban Ibrahim al-Tikriti was captured by Allied forces in Rabia while trying to slip across the border into Syria.)

"They just didn't show up for work on Wednesday," a U.S. intelligence source was quoted as saying. The "hot gossip" in Iraq's UFO community attributes both of Saddam's incredible escapes to a group of alleged aliens hiding out in Iraq. According to this legend, a UFO crash-landed in Iraq during either Gulf War 1 in 1991 or during Operation Desert Fox in 1998. Saddam supposedly granted the aliens sanctuary in Iraq in exchange for technological information that would keep his armed forces on a par with his enemies--the USA, UK and Israel. The aliens were reportedly staying at an underground base in Zarzi or the ancient citadel of Qalaat-e-Julundi, both located in the as-Zab as-Saghir (Little Zab) river valley north of Tikrit.

"Once again, they say the aliens saved the lives of Saddam and his sons," Mohammed Daud al-Hayyat stated. "They appeared at the Mansur house while the American bomber was enroute. They shined the mysterious beam at the wall, and once again the circle of light, or portal or vortex or whatever it is you UFO Roundup people call it, was created. Saddam, Uday, Qusay and Abid Hammoud stepped into it, followed by the aliens. And then they vanished." "When Saddam emerged from the circle of light, he found himself at the underground base in Al-Ouja. He discussed the situation with the aliens. Uday was very loud and angry. He demanded that the aliens give his father Drona Parva weapons so they could strike directly at America. The aliens ignored him."

(Editor's Note: The Drona Parva is a book of the ancient Hindu epic, the Mahabharata, describing energy weapons that make nuclear bombs look like Fourth of July firecrackers.)

"The aliens told Saddam that they could not save his regime. However, because he had protected them from the Americans, they would show their appreciation by helping him and his family escape into space. They would not allow Saddam to fall into the hands of his enemies, the Zionists. A large UFO was summoned to Al-Ouja, and Saddam and his family departed. As to where they have fled, no one can say."

"And another thing--why is as-Zab as-Saghir north of Tikrit the only part of Iraq that has not been invaded, not even after the (Iraqi) 5th Corps surrendered? Why has the Anglo-American coalition cordoned off this region?" If Uncle Bandar's Mukhabarat agents knew about the presence of the UFOs on Sunday, that might explain Saddam's strange confidence when he was photographed Sunday afternoon.

The critical question here is exactly when the F-15E went down and what its mission was north of Tikrit. Did an AWACS plane pick up the radar image of the cylindrical UFO over Al-Ouja? Did U.S. Central Command vector the F- 15E Strike Eagle after this surprise "target?" Did the same UFO that supposedly picked up Saddam shoot down the F-15E?

As of this writing, the final fate of Saddam and his sons is still unknown. (See USA Today for Apr 9,03, "Hunt underway for missing airmen" and "How the strike against Saddam unfolded," page 4A; for Apr 10,03, "No one ready to declare Saddam, sons dead," page 4A and "Pockets of stubborn resistance dot the map," page 5A; and the tabloid Globe for Apr 22, 03, "Saddam Fakes It!" page 27. Many thanks to Robert Fischer, Ayesha al-Khatabi, Mohammed Daud al-Hayyat, Steve Wilson Sr. and others for this report.)

[Solamente]

The article I posted is from the same source Streiber credits...

http://www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/uforo816.htm

[Calpernia]

UFOs? I'm not sure I buy into the UFO theories. But I love the pyramids. Climbed a few in Mexico.

[Calpernia]

Glad you keep an open mind. But unfortunately I can't dismiss the red flags. Chalk it up to 'work related hazard'.

[The Wizard]

same configuration as Giza