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Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts And Questions Say; 'Probably Not!'
Source? Sherlock Holmes
| MB26
Posted on 02/05/2009 7:52:01 PM PST by MindBender26
Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts Say; Probably Not!
Let me be the first to admit that I have been a constant debunker of the Obama Born Overseas stories. How could it be possible? How could the DNC, Hillary, Edwards, the RNC, McCain, Romney, AP, BBC, ABC, FNC, etc, (and every 100th listing in the DC phone book) not have checked this out to its last level of possibility?
Well, it appears that they didnt! Everyone assumed the other guy did it.
Forget for the moment all the clues left by the high-priced Obama and DNC legal teams. They are huge.
Obama and the DNC always argue standing. They could eliminate every legal challenge in 5 minutes by simply producing a certified copy of the original long-form birth certificate. Throw in the testimony of the Hawaii Registrar of Documents, a few retired FBI chief document examiners, and the doctor who delivered him for good measure.
If they did that in two or three courts of record, in light of the obvious media coverage it would receive, every other court nationwide would accept the precedence and the cases would all be over.
But they dont. They keep telling the courts, please dont hear this case. No proof of any kind. Just the legalese argument that the plaintiffs have no standing before that court.
Thats so overreaching, its like buying a refinery to get a 3000 mile oil change! And one day, some court is going to say
. Show me the money, er,. ah, I mean, Show me the documents!
But there is a second, and perhaps new point!
Where is that doctor who delivered him, or the midwife?
Stop and think. The delivery of a half Negro half Caucasian baby was rare anyhere in 1961. Oriental babies were common in Hawaii of course, but a half Negro-half Caucasian baby with the funny name of Barrack Obama, in Hawaii? In 1961?
Even of you were a Republican, if you delivered a future President of the United States, wouldnt you call some newspaper somewhere with your story. Or if you were the assistant obstetrician, or the anesthesiologist, or the scrub nurse?
What about the circulating nurse, or the pediatrician, one of a dozen nurses on the 24 hour-a-day shifts in the nursery, one of many nurses on the ward where Mrs. Obama would have stayed for three days, a records registrar, a technician of any kind, hell, even the janitor!
What about the clerks, ambulance drivers
.. somebody ?!?!?!
Anybody ?!?!?!
Wouldnt someone have been yelling their credit for this from the rooftops???? The date when he was born is (supposedly) known. Certainly all these (supposed) people would know where they were working then!
Where is somebody, anybody, who was there or even remembers the birth?
Sherlock Holmes once solved a case by noticing the dog that DID NOT bark.
Is this the same situation?
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
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Damn, they are cheap in Kenya. Carville priced it at 100 dollar bills through trailer parks." Well, $20 goes further in Kenya. At least before this global economic crisis. :-) Besides, Carville was just trying to help people with his same DNA structure.
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posted on
02/05/2009 10:23:28 PM PST
by
HawaiianGecko
(Online internet polls are foolish: Winston Churchill, 1939)
To: BIGLOOK
Just reading this new thread.
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posted on
02/05/2009 10:28:56 PM PST
by
Jet Jaguar
(Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
To: BIGLOOK
Thanks. I ran into your comment to me on the thread before refreshing to see you pinged me.
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posted on
02/05/2009 10:30:29 PM PST
by
Jet Jaguar
(Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
To: TigersEye
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Its not terribly Hawaiian or Japanese is it? Were Arabic names common there in the early 60s?" Two years ago I wouldn't have had a clue what the derivation of Obama was. Today you still don't. It's Luo not Arabic. BTW Luo is close to Luau which mean party to a Hawai'ian and Obama was obviously one of those. :-)
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posted on
02/05/2009 10:30:32 PM PST
by
HawaiianGecko
(Online internet polls are foolish: Winston Churchill, 1939)
To: MindBender26
Forget for the moment all the clues left by the high-priced Obama and DNC legal teams. They are huge.
Gawd I get so tired of asking birthers this and getting no response: Please give a source for the "huge" amounts of money that the Obama team has spent to squash this.
I'll bet you a dollar that you have nothing. Nothing.
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posted on
02/05/2009 10:31:24 PM PST
by
LanaTurnerOverdrive
("I've done a few things in my life I'm not proud of, and the things I am proud of are disgusting.")
To: Thumper1960
"
0bama is really the result of a drunken night of debauchery between a Honolulu tramp and a group of African merchant sailors. His reed basket was left on the beach at Pearl Harbor." Are you speaking of Andrew Jackson or Obama? :-)
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posted on
02/05/2009 10:32:51 PM PST
by
HawaiianGecko
(Online internet polls are foolish: Winston Churchill, 1939)
To: Balata
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=79174 Confirms what I said:
"It does not appear that Dr. Corsi is within any of these categories of persons with a direct and tangible interest in the birth certificate he seeks," wrote Roz Makuala, manager of constituent services in the governor's office, in an e-mailed response to a WND request seeking the information.
Those listed as entitled to obtain a copy of an original birth certificate include the person born, or "registrant" according to the legal description from the governor's office, the spouse or parent of the registrant, a descendant of the registrant, a person having a common ancestor with the registrant, a legal guardian of the registrant, or a person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant.
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the Hawaii Department of Health would immediately release Obama's original birth certificate, provided Obama requested the document be released, but the Department of Heath has received no such request from the senator or from anyone acting officially on his behalf.
The governor may have reminded the state's bureaucrats of the law, in "an abundance of caution", prior to the election in order to not appear partisan in her official duties and generate any more votes for poor picked on BHO.
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posted on
02/05/2009 10:33:09 PM PST
by
El Gato
("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
To: BrerLion
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I had a disturbing dream. It was like a demented nativity scene. And each of the attending animals had big ears and stuttered." I like your style of dreams. Demented is a good choice of words. :-)
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posted on
02/05/2009 10:35:59 PM PST
by
HawaiianGecko
(Online internet polls are foolish: Winston Churchill, 1939)
To: Balata
You’ll also note that the “sealed” language is that of the author of the report, not any state official, nor even their “confidential source”. IOW, I think it’s a bit of hyperbole, or to be a little kinder “journalistic license”.
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posted on
02/05/2009 10:36:31 PM PST
by
El Gato
("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
To: El Gato
You said “no one sealed Obama’s Birth Certificate”.
I simple linked to an article titled “Obama’s Birth Certificate Sealed by Hawaii Governor.”
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posted on
02/05/2009 10:42:58 PM PST
by
Balata
To: Candor7
However, Obama has a right to insist that his birth records remain confidential, according to Hawaian Law. But Obama is conveniently hiding behind the law's meaning and intent.
To: CitizenM
I was just throwing into the story, his considerably younger sister, supposedly remembering anything about Obama before he was seven. The probability of her knowing this information is less than .0000001 percent as a younger sibling. I know where all my brothers and sisters were born but I am the oldest and even named my youngest sister. My Mom discussed where my younger brothers and sisters were born because she had so many complications from the births and subsequent surgeries.
Like you, my BC says what hospital I was born in and I have a certain ironic pride in that as I won $1.5million deal two years ago at the hospital of my birth. I even showed the General Contractor and we both thought it serendipitous.
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posted on
02/05/2009 10:49:46 PM PST
by
Vendome
To: CedarDave
There was a notice published in a Hawaiian newspaper of his birth, but it could have been placed there using information on the certificate certification of live birth rather than the birth certificate. No you still don't understand, the Certification is not a "source" or "original" document. It's prepared when someone requests one. If you requested one in 2000 and another in 2008, they would not look exactly the same. They might or might not, contain the same information. They might be printed on different paper in a different font. But if you were born in 1961 and someone else was born in 1941, but you both requested a Certification in 2007, they would look the same, except for the differences in the information they contain.
However there is one glaring difference in BHO's posted CoLB and others from the same year. The terminology of one field. BHO's says "Date Filed by Registrar". Others say "Date Accepted by State Registrar". hmm.
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posted on
02/05/2009 10:50:43 PM PST
by
El Gato
("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
To: El Gato
"
Youll also note that the sealed language is that of the author of the report, not any state official, nor even their confidential source. IOW, I think its a bit of hyperbole, or to be a little kinder journalistic license."
BINGO! Only I believe your use of
hyperbole is being too kind. Hysterical heresy seems a bit more appropriate. Because it's possible, it must be true. Or, I found it in a blog on the internet, so it must be true. (God knows we cannot trust the main stream media today so we have to rely on fancy sounding websites written by the Pajamanatti) Or my favorite from a couple of months ago... someone posted a copy of a 1961 BOAC (British Air today) system route showing there were flights between Nairobi and Honolulu, Hawai'i back then, therefore, he was born in Kenya. (I mean He was born in Kenya)
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posted on
02/05/2009 10:55:01 PM PST
by
HawaiianGecko
(Online internet polls are foolish: Winston Churchill, 1939)
To: LanaTurnerOverdrive
Betchya a dollar that Barry is at the minimum a dual citizen which renders him ineligible to be President. Betchya he held an Indonesian passport. Which means, as an adult he was swore allegiance for muslim Indonesia. Nothing wrong with being a dual citizen unless you want to be President of the United States of America. Betchya that he likes to have sex with men on occasion...
It's just a matter of time before it's exposed on a national level. And Barry can't control foreign press. Foreign press are already writing articles about our illegitimate dear leader, regarding his eligibility and they are going to expose it before ABCCBSNBCFOX. Barry keeps twitching in his interviews and pressers.
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posted on
02/05/2009 10:59:18 PM PST
by
chrt30
To: chrt30
This thread will die and fast. heh heh You can’t handle the truth.
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posted on
02/05/2009 11:03:17 PM PST
by
chrt30
To: musicman
What a shame the troll isn’t around any longer to appreciate your awesome pictures!
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posted on
02/05/2009 11:03:47 PM PST
by
azishot
(I just joined the NRA.)
To: Balata
I simple linked to an article titled Obamas Birth Certificate Sealed by Hawaii Governor. And if you read it carefully, you'll find that "sealed" is a not what anyone actually said. It's an interpretation and a loaded term. All Hawaiian birth records are in effect "sealed" unless one is one of those eligible to procure them, and the same is true of Obama's.
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posted on
02/05/2009 11:04:33 PM PST
by
El Gato
("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
To: HawaiianGecko
Well, folks defending the CoLB posted, have said it's a copy of his original birth certificate. But it's not a copy of anything. It's an image of an abstract. One that appears even to my eyes, and my brain, as a manipulated image. Becasuse it's printed up on demand, and is not a copy of any original, it's extraordinary easy to forge.
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posted on
02/05/2009 11:08:24 PM PST
by
El Gato
("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
To: MindBender26
When you see this story in the NY Times, THEN and only then you can get excited. Until then, it’s just pissing in the wind.
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