Look at the young boy squatting in the front row. Same smile,same nose, same cheek bones, same ears.
Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.
The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.
Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.
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that group photo was taken somewhere between 1959 and 1962, as close as we can establish...aside from obama snr, who the people are goodness knows, but one of them is Stanley Dunham...
(Oh my eyes!)
How can we know for sure? Doesn't the young boy look like Barack though?
Some black hair dye does wonders. I have a Phillipino doctor who when her roots grows out you can see she is totally gray and probably about 70. With black hair die she looks a lot younger.
not to me he doesn’t...but he could be related to the fellow he is smiling at. The image, identified (loosely) as a graduation ‘do’ for obama snr., is supposedly taken prior to his departure from Hawaii to the US; it’s odd that the ages of the ‘fellow students’ appear to vary so much.
If that were to be correct, then obama would already have been born. Remember, obama snr left for the US when the boy was just over a year old.
In an earlier comment there was the suggestion that Stanley Dunham arrived in Hawaii some time before his family. Did Stanley know obama snr prior to obama snr meeting Stanleys daughter?
We cannot trust image captions.
Isn’t it the Hawaiian custom to present lei on arrival? If he is leaving, would he be wearing flowers? And...if it is a gathering of graduates, why would obama snr be the only one with lei? He appears to be the ‘guest of honour’...
Methinks it’s more likely to be a welcome than a farewell - and that would place it to before obama was born.
Thoughts?
"(That’s the first muslim prayer time! And Lolo wasn’t a practicing muslim, hey?)"
Very, very, interesting.
That black and white image...it just clicked! That must have been on arrival, it’s taken on a dock. Obama snr must have arrived on a freighter, the captain and some of the crew are in the photograph.
People did not just jump on aircraft in the 50/60’s. And that explains the negro men. They are Kenyan crew. (IMO)
Yes it is the custom.
"Methinks it’s more likely to be a welcome than a farewell - and that would place it to before obama was born."
Yes, I agree that it is a welcome. "Thoughts?
My thoughts are that it could have been taken when Barack Sr. arrivded in 1971. That Stanley Dunham brought his grandson (who I think the boy in the front looks like) to greet him, and that is why they are both in the picture. Look at the suit Barack Sr. is wearing. It is the same one he is wearing in the picture of him and Barack Jr. If those lei's weren't covering up Barack Obama Sr's tie I bet it is the same as the one he is wearing in that picture also. Maybe Ann took this group picture. I think the picture of Barack Sr. and Barack Jr. at Christmas is when Senior was leaving after that trip.
These are just my thoughts and I am going to stick to them, even if it isn't so, it makes it interesting. :-)
I think you could possibly be right about this being the night of Sr’s arrival in 1971 because of the multitude of lei’s around his neck. In the airport picture there are no leis and someone I read somewhere pointed out that they were at the place where you check your baggage to leave. The boy I think could very well be Jr. because if he stood up he would be about as tall as the Hawaiian lady and that is about how tall he is compared to his father in the airport picture. His mother might not have arrived back in Hawaii yet which would explain her absence. It makes sense since Stanley is there beside Sr. that Jr. would be there to welcome him. I don’t think the other blacks are from a Kenyan freighter. Maybe they are other Kenyans that took the same flight and got invited to join the party or maybe they are somehow connected to him from his student days since they are not wearing any leis. The Hawaiian woman, if she were 20-25 years old at that time, could be Okuba and that would put her at about 57-62 today which is possible. I met a Chinese lady once that I thought was about 18-20 years old and she turned out to be in her mid-50s so some Asian woman age very well. I wonder if there is a way to check out her age and if she has contributed to O’s campaign.
More and more so many things just don’t seem to make sense and keep raising other questions and yet I think by all of us discussing this whole affair using our critical thinking skills and a bit of creative thinking and plain old common sense we may in some ways be getting really closer to the real truth than we could have imagined a few weeks ago. I do think someone should contact Rocky Mountain News to find out where they got this information from and how they verified it
And here he is, some 4 years later, at a welcome. That makes it around 1960.
A few years older. Obama around 2yo. That's 1963.
And now he's aged some more. Stanley Ann promised him to be in Hawaii for Christmas. That's 1971. ? (MAYA'S DATE ON HER HAWAII BIRTHDAY?)
He met them at the airport...
Ok, I’m willing to do that this afternoon.
If that is really Stanley Dunham in the picture, he is featured as too young for it to be 1971.
Leis are used in celebrations in addition to arriving at the island.
Oh, tidbit, never give a lei to a pregnant woman. Legend is, it would choke the baby.
Is Fidel dead yet?
But I just am wondering if anyone else has read the CoLB disclaimer:
Truth:The 14th Amendment??????Senator Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, after it became a state on August 21st, 1959. Obama became a citizen at birth under the first section of the 14th Amendment
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
Also note the NOT mentioned "natural born" requirement.
Along with the oversighted mention that Stanley Ann was a minor.
In his course tests that Obama made up for his Constitutional Law class at U of Chicago, there is a sense that he believes that the 14th Amendment can do anything, fix anything, make any wish come true.
Tell a lie often enough....
:)
Indeed.
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