Posted on 10/27/2005 5:54:48 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
just breaking!!!!!!!!
I didn't say that (the Hillary moron) was an insult to the pro-Miers crowd. What I meant is that it set EVERYBODY off, after that point the thread was absolutely crazy! From that point on, no matter whether you were a pro, anti, or wait-and-see, everyone posted based on emotions rather than logic. I have only seen that kind of thing once before, and that was on a Schaivo thread.
The Miers announcement Live Thread should have a permanent link on the FR home page to show what happens when we all fly off the handle.
I saw Patrick Leahy just about doing the dance of joy...over the fact that the conservatives smacked down Bush's pick....and that Bush's "capitol" that he had from his reelection is now GONE....
IOW---the dems will be really loaded for bear now...because they know that some conservatives don't trust Bush to make good decisons and they will exploit that.
we're talkin reality, caused by guys like you bangin your spoon on the highchair!
There wasn't a Secretary of Energy in the Founders' day, but had there been, the early Congresses would have thought that a splendid idea. Granted, we live in a different time, with different expectations. Today, the "common man" (and woman) is only expected to fork out around 49% of his income to the government and like it.
Harriet Miers' humanity has never been in question ... has never been attacked ... and, has never been the problem.
Only Miers' suitability to be confirmed to a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court of the United States has ever been attacked ... justifiably attacked.
That's exactly my problem and some FReepers are simply refusing to acknowlege that's what happened. Not those who made their decisions AFTER the hearings began and facts came out, those who started the bashfest the day she was nominated, are claiming victory right now and predicting the complete death of the Bush administration for the next three years.
Sorry, but real conservatives wouldn't be celebrating. Lazz and Petronski had objections, but their posts aren't amounting to a savage victory dance (just using you guys as contrast, sorry).
NO real conservative denies someone the right to due process. This was agenda politics at it's worst by those who hate the president with a passion and live to get him out of office.
Reagan wasn't God, or even his son. He made mistakes, but he was still the greatest President in the last several generations. Let's not confuse great and perfect. Reagan was great, only Roger Staubach was perfect ;)
Reagan did give amnesty to millions of illegals. It was supposed to be a one shot deal, a compromise where in return for amnesty we would get toughened border protection and improved enforcement to the point that we would never have that many illegals here again.
Of course, as with most compromises, the liberals won. They got the amnesty they wanted for the illegals, but the borders stayed as lax as ever, and even more illegals have now flooded in.
And Specter has said he will not support someone who has been filibustered in the past.
Bush is not going to nominate Brown when he has others, like Edith Clement or Consuela Callahan, he can consider.
If they will agree to the nomination, that is.
Hearings. And that's what Meirs needed.
you can be as STRONG as you think & still not have 67 votes.
Yep. Raised taxes TWICE, too.
You're OK with calling an accomplished lawyer "The Cleaning Lady"?
Sad, isn't it?
It's all in the articles that are coming out. I suggest you read them before throwing stones at Conservatives for this turn of events.
You may have a point. For some, having the issue is more important than solving the problem.
If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.
I could not agree more. After the reaction to Meirs, maybe Frist and other Senate Repubs with higher ambitions are getting the idea that a wimp out may doom them in any presidential primary.
Go W go, nominate someone who will certainly rule based on the constitution, not personal beliefs. Is that so much to ask?
Guaranteed. Where I live, you can't get your uber-conservatives elected without mainstream Republican votes. From now on, any candidate that comes out of your ranks in my district/state will not get my vote.
"Cleaning Lady" - Ann Coulter.
Ha! Hadn't heard that one.
That's exactly what I'm afraid of. This is a tough one because if conservatives truly were opposed to Miers for the right reasons, then that is their right, and their constituents should expect no less. Having said that, were it just debate, that would be one thing. However, it seems that the Pubbies were eating their own and this is a sign of weakness to the Dems. They are like sharks circling their pray when they smell blood in the water.
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