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EXCLUSIVE: SWIFT OFFICERS AND VETS: KERRY LIED ABOUT SPENDING CHRISTMAS IN CAMBODIA
Drudge Report ^ | 8/8/04 | Matt Drudge + SwiftVets

Posted on 08/08/2004 5:09:55 PM PDT by Steven W.

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX SUN AUG 08, 2004 19:04:35 ET XXXXX

SWIFT OFFICERS AND VETS: KERRY LIED ABOUT SPENDING CHRISTMAS IN CAMBODIA

Since the early 1970s, Kerry has spoken and written of how he was illegally ordered to enter Cambodia. Kerry mentioned it in the floor of the Senate in 1986 when he charged that President Reagan’s actions in Central America were leading the U.S. in another Vietnam. Here’s what he said as excerpted from the new book, UNFIT FOR COMMAND:

I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the president of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared--seared--in me.

DRUDGE has learned from the accounts of Swift Boat officers and Kerry’s crewmembers that Kerry was never in Cambodia. UNFIT FOR COMMAND authors charge that Kerry made it all up.

“Despite the dramatic memories of his Christmas in Cambodia, Kerry’s statements are complete lies,” according to John O’Neil, co-author and the Swift Boat commander who took over Kerry’s boat. “Kerry was never in Cambodia during Christmas 1968, or at all during the Vietnam War. . . . he was more than fifty miles away from Cambodia.”

Kerry was stationed at Coastal Division 13 in Cat Lo. Coastal Division 13’s patrol areas extended to Sa Dec, about 55 miles from the Cambodian border. . . . Tom Anderson, Commander of River Division 531, who was in charge of PBRs (small river patrol crafts] confirmed that there were no Swifts anywhere in the area and they would have been stopped had they appeared.

All the living commanders in Kerry’s chain of command . . . deny that Kerry was ever ordered to Cambodia. They indicate that Kerry would have been seriously disciplined or court-martialed had he gone there. At least three of the five crewmen on Kerry’s boat, Bill Zaldonis, Steven Hatch, and Steve Gardner, deny that they or their boat were ever in Cambodia.

O’Neill observed that the Cambodia incursion story is not included in Tour of Duty (Kerry’s recent biography). Instead, Kerry replaced the story with a report about a mortar attack that occurred on Christmas Eve 1968 “near the Cambodian border” in a town called Sa Dec and Christmas day was spent at the base writing entries in his journal.

After conducting interviews and research, authors of Unfit for Command conclude, “The truth is that Kerry made up his secret mission into Cambodia.... the lie about the illegal Cambodian incursion painted his superiors up the chain of command. . . . as villains faced down by John Kerry, a solitary hero in grave and exotic danger and forced illegally against his will into harm’s way.”

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To: Steven W.

Again, I don't think this is a good way to attack Kerry. Along with the SB vet kickoff last week, there came a good deal of bad press the SB vets got in the latter half of the week. Its coming down to a "he said-I said" contest. Kerry has his group of vets, the SB vets have theirs. The public is left to decide who to believe. Part of their decision involves why would one or the other lie. Kerry ends up being the martyr since he's being attacked rather harshly. You never ever make your political opponent a martyr and give them the sympathy vote.

The SB vets may feel good, but I think its the wrong way to go about this.

JMHO.


321 posted on 08/09/2004 8:15:33 AM PDT by DaGman
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To: beyond the sea

Phil is very talented with his on target graphic arts and a few on target words.


322 posted on 08/09/2004 8:16:55 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has the Franchuran Dork candidate, le Jacquestrap Kerri ever not lied to Americans!")
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To: Steven W.

Hanoi John might have heard of the Army LCU 1577 with 11 crewmen that was interned by Cambodia on or about 17 July 1968 and just appropriated the story - with a lot of changes - into his own version of his “heroic” persona.


323 posted on 08/09/2004 8:19:29 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: bannie

Too bad for Kerry that Pelicano (an LA PI who reportedly did a lot of the Clintons' dirty work, like killing Kathleen Willey's cat) isn't available, thanks to prosecution he is facing in LA.


324 posted on 08/09/2004 8:25:02 AM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: Steven W.

In Kerry's case there doesn't seem to be Zip between "H"ero and "Z"ero.


325 posted on 08/09/2004 8:25:50 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (John (Frank Burns) Kerry and his mate, Teresa (haughty lips) Hooliheinz,reporting for snooty...duty)
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To: demlosers
I think a huge book needs to be made to record all the Kerry tales.

In several volumes.
326 posted on 08/09/2004 8:26:05 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: sinkspur
Because taking shots at a man or those who served with him in Vietnam is not received well by voters.

There are some - mainly the die-hard democrats - who really believe that character doesn’t count. Many people - even some nominal democrats believe it does count. Exposing Hanoi John’s lies show his true character and may persuade some who would normally vote for a “thrice wounded war hero” - Hanoi John’s primary campaign point - to not vote for him.
327 posted on 08/09/2004 8:31:36 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Steven W.

Why would he lie about something that could be investigated prove him to be a liar? (I'm not saying he isnt a liar,Im just puzzled)


328 posted on 08/09/2004 8:40:42 AM PDT by FeliciaCat
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To: FeliciaCat
Why would he lie about something that could be investigated prove him to be a liar?

Because he reasonably believes the events won't be objectively investigated, or even if they are, won't be objectively reported to the extent it would affect a politcal race.

Also, because he has done this before, and gotten away with it.

329 posted on 08/09/2004 8:45:00 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; devolve; potlatch; yall; Smartass; B4Ranch; Steven W.; Pikamax; ...
John Kerry On Defense

John Kerry on Defense

Kerry's voting record:

In short, he voted to kill every military appropriation for the development and deployment of every weapons systems since 1988 to include the battle armor for our troops.

With Kerry as president our Army will be made up of naked men running around with sticks and clubs.

He also voted to kill all anti terrorism activities of every agency of the U.S. Government and to cut the funding of the FBI by 60%, to cut the funding for the CIA by 80%, and cut the funding for the NSA by 80%.

But then he voted to increase OUR funding for U.N. operations by 800%!

Is THIS a President YOU want?

330 posted on 08/09/2004 8:51:23 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Good Job!
331 posted on 08/09/2004 8:52:35 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: Grampa Dave
A lot of freepers jumped all over Drudge that he erred. Well, when you look the stuff this liberal has written about his buddy al Kerri the past decade, Drudge was right with that one mistake due to Amazon.com.

Yes, I noticed that. Amazon was in error. Michael Kranish is the author of many Kerry's New Clothes type spin.

332 posted on 08/09/2004 9:26:15 AM PDT by auboy (John Kerry is part of the problem, not part of the solution.)
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To: auboy; All

In the meantime we can support these brave men by contributing to keep their ads on tv.

I finally found the page to donate to these gentlemen.

$100 via my credit card is in their account now.

Here is the link to donate:

https://coral.he.net/~swiftvet/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets

We need to share some of our treasure that God has loaned to us.


333 posted on 08/09/2004 9:44:49 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has the Franchurian Dork candidate, le Jacquestrap Kerri ever not lied to Americans!")
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the ping.


334 posted on 08/09/2004 10:47:47 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: PhiKapMom; Hermann the Cherusker; wai-ming
"I was being sarcastic and that even turns out to be true! :)"

LOL!  I knew you were being sarcastic.  

It doesn't matter what his ethnicity is or his real name.  What does matter is who the real sKerry is.  It seems that Michael Kranish and Hollywood have been assisting in the construction of the real sKerry.

Hermann the Cherusker drew attention to a 1997 movie 'The MatchMaker' starring sKerry supporter Janeane Garafalo.  The Kranish historic contribution was in 2003 ('Irish-American' Kerry's Jewish roots revealed)

The movie Casualties of War (1989) starring Michael J. Fox is the one to which wai-ming referred in post #296.  I don't remember it, so will rent it soon to refresh. 

Kerry's reenactment of wartime events for filming purposes reveals that he has been staging for a very long time.  A big question is why didn't he capture on film the 'atrocities' to which he testified?

I am concerned that Kerry opposition has been intentionally led down the Vietnam path.  It indicates to me a diversion from something even more damning.

335 posted on 08/09/2004 11:00:41 AM PDT by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: MEG33
The ads I have heard from the Bush campaign do attack John Kerry on his record.

But, I do think that if John Kerry is going to base his qualifications on his stint in Vietnam, then it should be brought to the light...

The rule of never attacking combat duty is one that should not be adhered to. If I can never examine the combat record of any body who served, then what prevents a person from basing future actions on the past (a past that is a lie but can't be examined because it's against the rules.) That's a silly premise and gives Kerry a highground he does not deserve.

336 posted on 08/09/2004 11:12:47 AM PDT by carton253 (All I am and all I have is at the service of my country. General Jackson)
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To: Steven W.

I hope some local newsman in a town Kerry is visiting will have the guts to ask him if he spent Christmas 1968 in Cambodia. I don't think any national newperson has the b@lls.


337 posted on 08/09/2004 11:15:07 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: Happy2BMe


338 posted on 08/09/2004 11:24:38 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Steven W.
Kerry replaced the story with a report about a mortar attack that occurred on Christmas Eve 1968 “near the Cambodian border” in a town called Sa Dec and Christmas day was spent at the base writing entries in his journal. with his secret decoder ring writing, "Drink More Ovaltime."
339 posted on 08/09/2004 11:29:11 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Democrat - It's in the dictionary - It's between "delusional" and "dimwit.")
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To: Terpfen
I've got to be the only person left on FR who looks at polls and shrugs.

Nope. You can count me in your corner.

340 posted on 08/09/2004 11:41:25 AM PDT by Col Freeper
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