TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO CALLING ALL FREEPERS Pt2 Disabled FL woman given Death Sentence by FL Courts

09-21-03 | pc93

[pc93]

Terri's Call to Action Part 1 is over 5000 posts. If you don't want to get caught up to speed at Part 1:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/971896/posts?q=1&&page=5167#5167

Simply visit Terri's official web site at:

http://www.terrisfight.org

There are contact numbers at her web site for her core media team, legislators, media and for press updates.

See flash movies of Terri interacting with her mother, responding to a physician and see for yourself that she's not in PVS "persistant vegetative state").

In addition to access a text file with a lot of information see:

http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/FedCourtDktCaseNo8_03-cv-1860-T-26TGW.txt

If you want to join Terri's fight, it's important for us to CONTACT BUREAUCRATS, THE MEDIA and also your friends and family. It's up to you how you choose to Help Terri.

Pinellas Pasco Judge Greer set October 15, 2003 at 2:00 p.m. for her feeding tube to be removed. There's something wrong with Florida's exit protocols and the way the courts handle new information re: criminality (misrepresentation, attempted murder, etc.) affecting a case. There was no living will, only the assertion of a very suspect, so-called husband, his brother, etc. that Terri would not want to live on life support. Terri is not on life support, she is not comatose or PVS and she is not living "artificially". She does get sustenance from a feeding tube but only because she has been denied rehabilitation by her so-called husband after he won a malpratice lawsuit three years after her collapse (cause unknown but probably due to strangulation or physical abuse, or both) which is why Terri needs an army of supporters to spread her story from coast to coast. Terri has retained rights that are being sidestepped because she is disabled and has been denied rehabilitation! The technologies of rehabilitation have greatly improved exponentially yet Judge Greer has not let Terri have a chance to learn to eat or to be able to learn to speak/communicate again. Also new information bearing on the case which shows criminality on husband's side has not been considered by the 2nd District Court of Appeals who handed down Mandate for termination of Terri's feeding based upon testimony of criminal husband and brother as above stated. Who is next?

Let's make a difference! Thank you for your efforts.

[phenn]

Well, well. Someone with a heart:

http://www.tampatrib.com/MGAAVZCEELD.html
Commentary from Steve Otto of Tampa Tribune. Sounds as if he understands just how human an issue this is.

-P-

[GWB and GOP Man]

Thank you! How many people can you get to commit to protesting outside of the courthouse and the hospice. I am from Georgia and I have been trying to organize a protest and/or rally.

There are 2 or 3 others on the FP forum who expressed to me they will BE THERE.

Please stay in touch with me about this.

[Theodore R.]

Most judges are immune to public criticism. I would think that George W. Greer would relish in criticism of his starvation order. He would probably joke that while the demonstrations go on, the starvation does also!

People in FL and elswhere seem to see their judges as "demigods" who can decide for them. People are so lacking in an elementary knowledge of government and politics that they defer to the unelected branch to sort out what everything means.

[Theodore R.]

The only people celebrating right now are Greer, Schiavo, and Felos. They must be in awe that Crist is effectively joining their team.

[pc93]

From: http://www.m-blog.com/?13.&nextcomments=0.&nextposts=10.&id=1064512965799643.&

Sunday, September 28, 2003 9:24 PM
More than Terri will be killed...She is in Florida, The Golden Years State, The Place Where Blue-Hairs Migrate State
I think I have finally figured out how this could be happening.
I have done alot of investigation, and I couldnt understand how anyone who saw the videos could say that Terri was in a PVS(Persistent Vegatative State).
I started to add up all of the "players" ie:
some of the directors on the hospice board,
the attorneys and their previous govt positions,
the insurance companies
and of course
Terri and her husband who is engaged to a woman who has 1 child by him and another on the way.

First let me explain:
Hospices are supposed to be for dying persons. Terri is not dying.
Some folks have picked up on some interesting connections in this Fight.I found this during a google search for more info.

Some Interesting posts on Freerepublic.com:

"Congressman Bilirakis serves on the Hospice Board of Directors.
There are actually three boards because there are profits and non-profits.
The salaries at the top are sky high."
Barbara Sheehan Todd also serves on the Hospice Board. She was a County Commissioner the same time Judge Greer was

I am way past the blur stage. Who knew we would uncover so many complexities and turf wars between Hospice and former employees? This is a major legal-medical situation with political overtones without taking into account religious implications

See the page at: Freepers Call to Action

Also, link to an insurance company that uses Michael Schiavo's home address as its address:
JERGER & CENTONZE INSURNACE AGENCY, INC.*Note s/b spelled Insurance Division of Corporations
Div of Corp:
Florida Profit

JERGER & CENTONZE INSURNACE AGENCY, INC.

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PRINCIPAL ADDRESS
2807 MARRIE CT
CLEARWATER FL 33761

Registered Agent
Name & Address
WILKINSON, G. BARRY
696 1ST AVE N, STE 201
ST PETERSBURG FL 33701

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Officer/Director Detail Name & Address Title
JERGER, RICHARD M JR
2807 MARRIE CT

CLEARWATER FL 33761 D
SCHIAVO, MICHAEL R
2807 MARRIE CT

CLEARWATER FL 33761 D
QUINN-JERGER, CATHERINE M
2807 MARRIE CT

CLEARWATER FL 33761

According to a freeperThe key is to find out why the Richard and Catherine Jerger are involved, and what interest does G. Barry Wilkinson have - the lawyer who is the registered agent. The corp itself is inactive, and was never really used as a business, according to the documents I've been able to cover so far. So why was it created?
Again, link at: post nr 689


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****Authors disclaimer - I can not vouch for the veracity of the comments made by the freepers, just letting you know what info is out there. Investigate for yourself.

Really, need a good investigation!

[pc93]

I would add that people who stick up for Jeb, etc. should check out what his office under the auspices of Lauren O'Connor sent out on Sept. 30th. She works for Jeb's Office of Citizens Services who upon being able to contact her by voice basically intimated that although her name is on the e-mail that was sent out and that it was sent out and received as coming from Governor Jeb Bush's own official e-mail that in her words "she collaborates with Jeb's legal team". When asked to speak to someone on that legal team she checked and came back saying to send an e-mail to jeb@myflorida.com and that my particular e-mail would be personally addressed and I verified that it would not be in a form letter. She basically gave me her word that my e-mail would receive a response in regards to my complaint, concerns and issues raised. We shall see if Jeb has any integrity.

Here is my letter. Note that I added the info. about Pinellas Pasco Sheriff Rice being contacted by Patricia Anderson and that the assertion that the Pinellas Pasco Sheriff's Office had not been contacted as to abuse, etc. is a lie. I will fax or e-mail this ammended letter to Jeb's Office on Monday and contact Lauren O'Conner to let her know. If you have any other items for me to add I would beseech you to contact me ASAP:

From: Juan Schoch - juan.schoch@XXXXXXXXX.com
To: jeb@myflorida.com
10/03/2003 03:48 PM
Subject: Complaint re: Sept. 30th Terri Schiavo Update coming from your office in your name

The following e-mail was received by me at a different e-mail address (I have the original e-mail) from your e-mail address with the message body indicating that it was coming from the Office of Citizens Services, one Lauren O'Connor. I spoke with Lauren and she indicates that although her name is in the e-mail message body as coming from her she (or your Office of Citizens Services) collaborates with your legal team. I am very concerned about the e-mail in that it was sent out on Sept. 30th and is false to facts and is in no way an "Update" on the Terri Schindler Schiavo case as the subject indicated -> Terri Schiavo Update. Where is the accountability? Whatever is coming out of your office should not be false to facts. Included here is the message body of the e-mail and I will comment as to what I take exception to and I would ask you to help me understand why this was sent out on Sept. 30th. If you are really concerned about the welfare of Terri Schiavo then please help me understand why this is coming out of your office at this time with false to facts statements not only being sent out to Florida residents but over State lines to other States in our United States of America (might I also add the world). Lauren indicated that I will not receive a form letter in response to this e-mail and that I can expect an e-mail back addressing the issues of which I take exception and any other concerns raised:

begin message body
Thank you for your e-mail expressing concern for the well being of Theresa Schiavo. The Governor also is concerned for her and for her family and is keeping them all in his prayers. The case represents a tragic situation of family disagreement under very trying circumstances.

This office has made several inquiries with agencies responsible for investigating abuse allegations. Neither the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office nor local law enforcement agencies have received or investigated any reports of abuse of Mrs. Schiavo. The office of the state attorney for the Sixth Judicial Circuit, Bernie McCabe, reviewed the matter and found no basis for any criminal investigation.

In keeping with Florida law, our court system oversees the well being of incapacitated adults, including the oversight of guardians and their activities. A Florida court appointed Mr. Michael Schiavo as his wife's guardian more than 12 years ago. In this role, he has been under the supervision of the probate division of the state court system. Critical decisions related to guardianship, including the decision to terminate life support, must be approved by the court. Mr. Schiavo obtained such a court order to remove his wife's feeding tube. Mrs. Schiavo's parents have appealed that order, and the court has postponed the removal of her feeding tube until the Florida Supreme Court reviews the case.

In Florida, these matters are entrusted to the system that our elected officials established to protect incapacitated adults. We must respect that system and trust the judge will listen to the views of all interested family members before reaching a decision in the best interest of Mrs. Schiavo.

It is never easy to make a life-and-death decision for a loved one. Under Florida law, residents can indicate in advance how they want to be cared for should they become unable to express their wishes. The Governor supports the use of advance directives or living wills. These tools ensure Floridians will be cared for in the manner of their own choosing and save their families the anguish of having to make these decisions for them.

For more information on advance directives, please visit these websites:

Aging With Dignity -- Five Wishes Advanced Directive <"agingwithdignity.org/>

American Bar Association Commission on Law and Aging <"www.abanet.org/aging/toolkit/home.html>



Sincerely,



Lauren O'Connor Office of Citizens' Services
end message body

What I take exception to is contained in the following as it is false to facts and is nothing more than misrepresentation. See my comments in between the brackets:

Neither the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office nor local law enforcement agencies have received or investigated any reports of abuse of Mrs. Schiavo.

[From Affidavit of Patricia Fields Anderson, Esq. dated September 8th, 2003.

17. On Sunday morning, August 31, 2003, still concerned about the ward's condition, I spoke with Everett Rice, Sheriff of Pinellas County, about the events described above and e-mailed him copies of the affidavits from the caregivers described in Paragraph 3 above. I asked him to take whatever action, as the county's chief law enforcement officer, he felt was appropriate under the circumstances.]

Critical decisions related to guardianship, including the decision to terminate life support, must be approved by the court. Mr. Schiavo obtained such a court order to remove his wife's feeding tube. Mrs. Schiavo's parents have appealed that order, and the court has postponed the removal of her feeding tube until the Florida Supreme Court reviews the case.

[Fact: On Sept. 30th the court had not postponed the removal of Terri's feeding tube and the Florida Supreme Court was not reviewing the case. On Sept. 11th (after the Florida Supreme Court shirked their responsibility to a conscious (read: not PVS) resident of Florida in which an attempt is being made on her life (by terminating her feeding and hydration) by a "husband" who has nothing more than criminal intentions and not Terri's best interests at heart. Witness affidavits which are now in Federal and State court records by a nurse/nurses assistants, or caregivers etc. who were themselves prompted to come forward after your fax letter sent to Judge Greer became known in the press. Pasco Pinellas County Judge George Greer on Sept. 11th deferred ruling on termination of feeding and hydration until the next week at which time he basically issued Terri's death warrant. It was obvious that Judge Greer postponed ruling in the case because of the showing that day of people who are concerned about Terri's well-being. I was one of those people. I drove all the way from Orlando to Clearwater to be a witness to so-called justice. He gave the appearance that justice would be served by deferring the ruling and acknowledging that Terri is a human being. The affidavits were entered into the record at that time by Attorney Patricia Anderson. Also in the court records is information which was entered into court records (before Sept. 11) asking Greer to step down because of impropriety in the case, basically showing that Greer was biased in the case and actually broke the law by talking about the case to other people (including the press in which he was talking about decisions he was going to be making in the case) without attorneys from both parties being present. He spoke to the Sheriff of Pinellas Pasco County Sheriff Rice at a baseball game indicating his displeasure (opposite from what he indicated to the press and also in which he illegally stated that he is not inclined to appoint a guardian ad litem) at receiving your communication that he should appoint a guardian ad litem in the case and err on the side of life. Also Sheriff Rice after talking to Greer (after his slip of passing this information to Anderson) was influenced by Greer or took it upon himself to call Patricia Anderson back and lie about the fact that Greer spoke to him and told him about his displeasure at a baseball game and that it was the other way around - that Sheriff Rice was the one who voiced his displeasure. This is a bald face lie and considering the facts of the matter he tried to cover up that Greer actually was breaking the law by speaking to others without both parties being present and that he had passed this information unthinkingly to Patricia Anderson who had contacted him in regards to the matter of that contained in the affidavits from the nurses, etc.. Even after this fact Greer refused to step down from the case and consequently proceeded to issue Terri's death warrant even in light of all the information anent the criminal actions, words, intentions of Michael Schiavo. How are you going to explain this away? Where is the accountability? You as a state actor were basically Terri's guardian and so was Judge Greer who allowed another guardian (who has criminal intents) to get the courts (through deceit) to issue Terri's termination of feeding and hydration order based solely on hearsay evidence and even after the fact of a malpractice lawsuit (Nov. 1992) in which Terri's rehabilitation was promised. After Michael received the money he issued a Do Not Resuscitate order in regards to Terri. Again I ask how are you going to explain this away? The issue is not going to go away and you shouldn't be sending out false information regarding this case under color of an "Terri Schiavo Update" on Sept. 30. Can you understand my outrage as a resident of Florida and a United States Citizen that this is happening on the various levels of our government and also what is coming out of your office? Where is the accountability and what are you doing about it? Terri deserves to live and she deserves the rehabilitation she was promised. Why was the information sent out on Sept. 30th not indicating that Judge George Greer issued his final order of Terri's termination of hydration and feeding to commence on Oct. 15th, etc. and that the matter is now at the Federal level under the jurisdiction of Judge Richard Lazzara of which a hearing is to occur on Oct. 10th? This is absolutely Terri's last chance to receive justice in this matter and if you are really concerned about justice and Terri's well-being then why is false information being sent out from your office? Terri did not have the opportunity of having a living will and was criminally denied her right to life via hearsay evidence by the State of Florida. She was promised rehabilitation and she deserves that rehabilitation. I am awaiting the promised personal response from you anent my concerns.

P.S. I would also like to know why the buck was being passed around when I tried to contact your office and was told that there was nothing that you could do about Terri's situation. I was then patched to the Attorney Generals Office upon request and was told that they could not do anything unless you ordered it and that it was a judicial matter, etc. This was a day before your fax letter to Judge Greer. Where is the break down? Also why cannot you convene a special session anent Terri's situation to change the law concerning 'exit protocols', etc. and people who have criminal intentions as guardians (who should not be guardians) esp. when those intentions come to light, etc.?]



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[yesnettv]

Good for you!

[Ohioan from Florida]

The key is to find out why the Richard and Catherine Jerger are involved, and what interest does G. Barry Wilkinson have - the lawyer who is the registered agent. The corp itself is inactive, and was never really used as a business, according to the documents I've been able to cover so far. So why was it created?

I've looked into this aspect, too, as best as I can. G. Barry Wilkinson seems to be a lawyer who specializes in being a "registered agent" for many corporations. I found records with him as the RA for approximately 75-100 different organizations, so as far as he goes, I think this is part of how he earns his bread and butter. The Jergers are another question. One of them obviously knows Schiavo and/or Jodi Centonze, but I can't find it out. Somebody with better investigative skills/networking can probably find out more. Jerger & Centonze is obviously a shell organization (IMHO in order to hide assets), because there is hardly any more paper trail on them (via internet). We need to keep looking into this.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the heads up!

[sfRummygirl]

I'm so glad you told me about this....

[sfRummygirl]

I am going to call and e-mail some churches in the Florida area. I want to see what they are doing.
If I am going to rally people, give me a date and location? Or at least a contact plan. What are you telling folks in your area to do? What looks like the most effective?

[sfRummygirl]

I wish I had the investigation skills. I don't have the tools at this point to do so. I hope someone does.

[GWB and GOP Man]

I personally spoke to the Right to life groups in the area. Still waiting for a call back.

I think I caught them napping.

[GWB and GOP Man]

I don't give a rip about what Greer, Schiavo and Felos think.

I want there to be thousands of people ready, willing and able to BE THERE for Terri and her family. If there is a cacophonous outcry of public disapproval over starving a defenseless disabled woman to death, perhaps the tide will turn and this will never happen again.

I am praying for a miracle and I am still hopeful that Terri's life will be spared.

[sfRummygirl]

You know, these groups really should be involved. And actually, the group that ALSO should be involved is NOW. I e-mailed them, and called the local chapter, and told them I was amazed that a woman's right to STAY ALIVE wasn't being backed by them.

[phenn]

At this stage, keeping clear of the federal hearing is probably a pretty good idea. I'm all for peaceful demonstration, but it may do more harm than good at this point. Apparently, this federal judge just "don't play" and too much attention might not be a good idea.

However, I'm all in favor of organizing something away from the courthouse. I just wouldn't want to do any damage, obviously. Let me think on it and try to come up with something reasonable, but that would catch the eye of the media.

This might be a "create your own media" exercise in that people should bring their own cameras, tape recorders, etc. and just try to talk to people one on one about Terri and what is going on with her. Are they concerned about their own welfare, do they worry about the judiciary getting involved in such cases, would they want a shot at therapy, etc.

Let's discuss this as I think demonstration is very appropriate. I just fear that demonstrating at the federal hearing will backfire badly.

[GWB and GOP Man]

So should we call Glenn Beck and ask him to keep his pie hole shut?

Glenn Beck is clearly annoyed that there are no conservative and right to life groups mobilizing to express OUTRAGE over what they (Schiavo and the courts) have been doing to Terri and the Schindler family for the past 10 years, what they (Schiavo and the courts) are doing to her and the Schindler family, at this very moment, and what they (Schiavo and the courts) will continue to do to Terri and the Schindler family once this October 10 date comes and goes.

This is an OUTRAGE! If this were a gay man with AIDS the courts were about to STARVE to death, every liberal from San Francisco to Miami Beach would be literally screaming at the top of their lungs. Freaking Dave Matthews, Sheryl Crowe, Cher, Barbara freaking Streisand, Michael Jackson, Michael Stipe, Elton John would play non stop concerts 24/7 until his (hypothetical man with AIDS) situation improved.

I think it is a mistake to be passive, UNLESS, you know something that we do not know.

This judge (Lazarra) does sound promising and I would not condone a protest demonstation at the courthouse on October 10. However, I think it is totally appropriate to show as much support as possible for the Schindler family.

Who the heck am I? I am just a lone schmuck who can't get a single soul to call me back to organize a rally of support for Terri and her family.

It's a shame that conservatives don't organize and mobilize and stick together and the liberals are right there for each other.

[sfRummygirl]

You know, I agree with you. This is a freakin' shame that there are no groups or musicians.
I think what needs to happen is we need to get everyone out. If the courts see a handful of 'right wingers', they won't care.
Ok, let's think. Glenn Beck is a saint for all he's done. He really, really cares. maybe we can e-mail him to organize a rally. And, on the same day, let's get people all over the country, to stand on their street corner, with a SAVE TERRI sign. Besides calling and everything. I just mean for the visual media thing.
That might work. If we pick a day. For everyone all over the country.
What do you guys think?

[sfRummygirl]

You know what? I'm just going to do it. I'm going to pick a day. Right now.
Ok, October 10th. Friday. I'm asking people to carry a sign. On the street corner, put it in your car as you drive around. Make a t-shirt.
Gather together for vigils. Leaflet. call the people around you. ANYTHING.
Tell everyone. DO IT.....I'm also e-mailing Glenn Beck. And local talk show hosts.
Put on the signs, WWW.TERRISFIGHT.ORG.
Hit the steets, folks. Ping everyone you know.

[sfRummygirl]

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