Scientist: Oldest American skull found

CNN ^ | December 3 2002 | Jeordan Legon

[CobaltBlue]

The "Pe

[Drango]

Was it Lautenberg's?

[joesnuffy]

Ya mean that all this time the Aztlan and native american movements have been unfairly characterizing us as invaders ..
I knew it ...I knew it
It was Barzini all along

[SES1066]

Because the remains were discovered outside the United States, scientists will be able to study the DNA and structure of the skeleton without the objection of Native American groups, who can claim and rebury ancestral remains under a 1990 U.S. law.

The oldest skull up to now, believed to be that of "Buhl Woman," was found in 1989 at a gravel quarry in Idaho. Scientists said it dates back from 10,500 to 11,000 years. But researchers scarcely studied those bones before the Shoshone-Bannock tribe claimed and reburried them.

I can sympathize with our Amerindian / aboriginal citizens over their past mistreatments, but this is an area where a badly written law has blocked scientific progress. Any competent anthropologist can tell you that the odds of any tribe remaining in the same place for 10k years is miniscule. To be able to claim and control ancestral remains from several hundred years back is one thing, to do so for such above as well as the Kenewick Man pushes the envelope beyond logic.

[Charles Henrickson]

an elongated-faced woman who died about 13,000 years ago

Barbra Streisand?

[KC_Conspirator]

"If this proves right, it's going to be quite contentious," said Gonzalez, who teaches at John Moores University in England and received a grant last week from the British government to conduct her research. "We're going to say to Native Americans, 'Maybe there were some people in the Americas before you, who are not related to you.' "

Well of course! I am surprised that someone admitted the truth about the biggest lie in north american anthropology and it just goes to show you how politicized the scientific community has become. Its why any remains are immediately re-buried or cremated so that any anthropoligical evidence that points to anything other than indians being of victimhood class.

[GhengisKhan]

I was thinking Helen Thomas myself ... ;)

[Cogadh na Sith]

Dude, you gotta see this:

Emboldened by her finding, Gonzalez will try to prove her theory that the bones of the Peñon Woman belong not to Native Americans, but to descendants of the Ainu people of Japan.

[Burn24]

Aren't the Ainu people of Japan the Caucasian minority?

[TopQuark]

Oh, I thought it was an Al Gore story.

Never mind....

[Varda]

Neat !

Here's another article on the same subject.

"Does skull prove that the first Americans came from Europe?"
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_medical/story.jsp?story=358001

[jerod]

So they've found Helen Thomas. That's why she's been absent from those White House briefings. She's dead.

[SES1066]

Aren't the Ainu people of Japan the Caucasian minority?

I think that all you can say about the modern Ainu is that they have more Caucasian characteristics than non-Ainu Japanese who are closer to the Koreans in genetic ancestry.

A more intriguing thought is the steppe mummies found in western China who have no visible oriental features and blonde hair. It brings to question what are the races except for semi-convenient terms of recent ancestry. Since there is no fertility problems, using the word 'race' for such is really a mis-use of the word except that there is no other working term for the results of the 'expression' of dominant genetic characteristics.

The irony for such racial purists as the Nazis and such is that the Arayan[sp?] profile of blue eyes and blonde hair is recessive in almost any hybridization. In other words, it appears that they are the weaker genes.

[SES1066]

That's why she's [Helen Thomas] been absent from those White House briefings.

Nah, she only shows up when she can harrang Ari. I heard and saw her ugly puss within the past several days doing just that on Fox News. The desire to reach through the TV Screen to whack her one is almost irresistable! Yank her press pass already.

[Molly Pitcher]

Just Amazing!

[Burn24]

How very interesting, thank you.

[Mr. Mulliner]

I think this will provide for some interesting reading and discussion on "news Wednesday" in my Reading class.

[Gargantua]

I guess that they assumed she was a woman because all her front teeth were knocked out...?

[flying Elvis]

Why the long face?

Cause I'm dead.

[itsahoot]

Emboldened by her finding, Gonzalez will try to prove her theory that the bones of the Peñon Woman belong not to Native Americans, but to descendants of the Ainu people of Japan.

Huh? When I went to bed lat night she was white. :)