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Russia's tanks in Ukraine have a 'jack-in-the-box' design flaw. And the West has known about it since the Gulf war
CNN ^ | 28-APR-2022 | Brad Lendon

Posted on 04/28/2022 8:48:08 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas

Russian tanks with their tops blown off are just the latest sign that Russia's invasion of Ukraine isn't going to plan.

Hundreds of Russian tanks are thought to have been destroyed since Moscow launched its offensive, with British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace on Monday estimating it had lost as many as 580.

But Moscow's problems go beyond the sheer number of tanks it has lost. Experts say battlefield images show Russian tanks are suffering from a defect that Western militaries have known about for decades and refer to as the "jack-in-the-box effect." Moscow, they say, should have seen the problem coming.

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TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom
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1 posted on 04/28/2022 8:48:08 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas
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ping


2 posted on 04/28/2022 8:48:39 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (Whenever a Russian soldier is killed, an Angel gets its wings)
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Stunning that the Ruskies carried this flaw into each next generation. What on earth were they thinking?


3 posted on 04/28/2022 8:50:49 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: SpeedyInTexas

“If you don’t get out within the first second,....”

You will in the second........................


4 posted on 04/28/2022 8:50:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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Yes, the Russians have had 500,000 casualties, and have been driven back to Moscow.

St. Petersburg has been renamed St. Zalinskyburg!


5 posted on 04/28/2022 8:52:16 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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6 posted on 04/28/2022 8:52:24 AM PDT by mylife (It looks just like a telefunken U47... (===)
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The Brit Defense head is Ben Wallace? Aren’t Brit offials supposed to have hyphenated names like Shelby Whithe-Harwick or Throckmorton Pennyweather-Smythe?


7 posted on 04/28/2022 8:52:25 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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“The problem relates to how the tanks’ ammunition is stored. Unlike modern Western tanks, Russian ones carry multiple shells within their turrets. This makes them highly vulnerable as even an indirect hit can start a chain reaction that explodes their entire ammunition store of up to 40 shells.”

“The resulting shockwave can be enough to blast the tank’s turret as high as a two-story building, as can be seen in a recent video on social media.”


8 posted on 04/28/2022 8:52:27 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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They do appear to have their turrets blown completely off, thanks to the design.
9 posted on 04/28/2022 8:52:47 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Propaganda! No Russian tanks have been lost!

You JewNaziSoros lover who wants war with Russia! You work for Raytheon!

/s/


10 posted on 04/28/2022 8:53:56 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: BiglyCommentary

No one mentioned it to them...until now


11 posted on 04/28/2022 8:54:47 AM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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This is actually - shock - a good article from CNN. The points about the vulnerability of the Soviet/Russian auto-loading system is well known, and they also made a good point about crew losses and the difficulty of replacing them.

Of course, the Ukrainians are basically driving the same tanks, so....

12 posted on 04/28/2022 8:55:41 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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CNN shouldn’t be putting out how our tanks are designed


13 posted on 04/28/2022 8:56:48 AM PDT by Striperman (Striperman)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

the Ukrainians are basically driving the same tanks

correct


14 posted on 04/28/2022 8:57:22 AM PDT by mylife (It looks just like a telefunken U47... (===)
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To: Fido969

Are you trying to say the tanks are the best in the world?


15 posted on 04/28/2022 8:58:54 AM PDT by roving
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So that’s what those big crank handles are for. You’d think the crews would have time to escape before the music gets to the point well-known to all children, though.


16 posted on 04/28/2022 8:59:25 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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One recalls Tom Clancy writing about this back when he was still with us in some magazine or newspaper article somewhere.

"If someone tries to sell you a used Soviet tank, say "Nyet!""

This was not long after he had written Rainbow Six, with some help, about an insane computer software billionaire who undertook a plan to wipe out 99 percent or so of humanity.

He died not long after that, IIRC. But I digress...

17 posted on 04/28/2022 8:59:48 AM PDT by OKSooner (Fire Kevin McCarthy and his boyfriend Luntz, and fire Mitch too. Not next week, do it right now.)
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Actually, they knew it since the invention of the Tank. They don’t care about the crew, just the outcome and as we can see to some degree, the outcome is not so good when your tank army is being decimated by ATGM/ATMs. You see, the west care enough about the crews (because they are actually the weapon, the tank is just the tool) to make them safer and well enough armored not just at the glacis and turret front, but pretty much everywhere. Our tanks have long had blast compartments and access doors that expose the crew to ammunition risks only when opened and then only for a brief moment.


18 posted on 04/28/2022 8:59:50 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" )
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Far be it from me to take up for CNN, but everyone already knows, at least in this regard. It’s not like they’re publishing the secrets of the British-designed Chobham armor or anything like that, that’s still classified.


19 posted on 04/28/2022 9:02:48 AM PDT by OKSooner (Fire Kevin McCarthy and his boyfriend Luntz, and fire Mitch too. Not next week, do it right now.)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

The Soviets have never really given a damn about the safety of their crews so redesigning their tanks to preserve life was not a consideration.

I’ll give the Russians a bit of credit for designing the T-14 with a remote controlled turret and an up armored crew compartment. What remains to be seen is if this design gets past the initial production and makes it into the final procurement design.

Based on every previous platform the Soviets/Russians have rolled out I suspect they’ll once again sacrifice crew safety and comfort for cost savings. The pinhead Russian military accountants will always go for quantity over quality.


20 posted on 04/28/2022 9:03:05 AM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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