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Breaking: Pentagon Confirms May Court Martial Soldiers Who Share Christian Faith
Breitbart ^ | 5/1/13

Posted on 05/01/2013 9:27:40 AM PDT by Nachum

The Pentagon has released a statement confirming that soldiers could be prosecuted for promoting their faith: "Religious proselytization is not permitted within the Department of Defense...Court martials and non-judicial punishments are decided on a case-by-case basis...”.

The statement, released to Fox News, follows a Breitbart News report on Obama administration Pentagon appointees meeting with anti-Christian extremist Mikey Weinstein to develop court-martial procedures to punish Christians in the military who express or share their faith.

(From our earlier report: Weinstein is the head of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, and says Christians--including chaplains--sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ in the military are guilty of “treason,” and of committing an act of “spiritual rape” as serious a crime as “sexual assault.” He also asserted that Christians sharing their faith in the military are “enemies of the Constitution.”)

Being convicted in a court martial means that a soldier has committed a crime under federal military law. Punishment for a court martial can include imprisonment and being dishonorably discharged from the military.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

The establishment and Free Exercise clause forbids the state from allowing itself to support any religion. The free exercise clause prohibits it from denying free exercise of religion to anyone.

IMO this action does not at all abridge the religious freedom of a christian. It simply dissuades a proselytising individual from abridging the freedom or religion of another.

Pretty sure an order banning proselytization would stand supreme court scrutiny.


441 posted on 05/03/2013 8:59:35 AM PDT by ketelone
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To: SoldierDad

442 posted on 05/03/2013 9:54:46 AM PDT by yorkie
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To: sergeantdave

You’re right. But what this is about is *changing* the military from being 80% Christian into being something else.

In or previous conversation you were thinking I was condeming the current military when it’s the ‘something else’ that I’m worried about. I pinged you on this topic just so you could see an example of why I have such concerns in the first place.


443 posted on 05/03/2013 10:18:24 AM PDT by MeganC (You can take my gun when you can grab it with your cold, dead fingers.)
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To: manc

Here’s the deal. We have a list of things regarding Obama that is about as long as the Universe is wide. Most of them are completely legit, some are a little borderline, still others I think are thrown in the mix to make us look like kooks. I am uncertain that this particular issue is really what it appears to be on the surface. The last thing I want to be is a fish in a barrel.


444 posted on 05/03/2013 10:21:07 AM PDT by CityCenter (No matter how good your PR is, you can't outsmart the truth.)
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To: MeganC

“I pinged you on this topic just so you could see an example of why I have such concerns in the first place.”

Understood, MeganC. You can’t take the lunatic ravings of one Marxist traitor and extrapolate those views onto every member of the military. It doesn’t work that way. Obuma and his commie trolls are making enemies of the best fighting force in the world, bar none.

We’re making a list
And checking it twice...
Gonna find out who’s naughty and nice


445 posted on 05/03/2013 3:27:19 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: Recompennation
BELSHAZZAR
446 posted on 05/03/2013 8:51:52 PM PDT by 444Flyer
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To: mikeus_maximus

“Unfortunately, you speak the truth.”

I prefer to be wrong, but it’s all predicted here:

Revelation 20:4:
Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

John 16:2:
They will put you out of the synagogues. Indeed, the hour is coming when whoever kills you will think he is offering service to God.

God will use the Islamic head choppers who are duped by Satan into thinking they serve God as His tool of judgement, just like He used the Babylonians, Assyrians, and Romans to discipline and judge His people.


447 posted on 05/03/2013 10:21:24 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: TArcher
"It seems to me that the never finished Colorado Crossing shopping mall across from Teg Haggard’s (former) circus tent ~ought to be a clue about the ills of worshiping man-made religious concoctions, but..."

Yet Christianity still thrives in the face of your childish hyperbolic examples.

Christianity thrives not because of the corrupt clergy/preachers, but in spite of them due to faith, tradition, debate, and most important, the Word.

Awaiting your next hyperbolic strawman...
448 posted on 05/04/2013 7:37:06 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Nachum

Don’t say anything. Just give them a book to read or a link to listen to.


449 posted on 05/04/2013 7:53:13 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: xzins
**Mark 16 said: "15 He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation"**

Or Matthew:

Matthew 28
16 Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed them.
17 And when they saw him they worshiped him; but some doubted.
18 And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age."



450 posted on 05/04/2013 8:00:55 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: rollo tomasi

“I am the way the Truth and the life”

The self-evidence of that is rendered in the free mind of the Individual, not as a result of state-established parrots wearing vestigial plumage left over from some Roman sun-worhipping cult.

YMMV.


451 posted on 05/04/2013 8:04:33 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: ketelone

“It simply dissuades a proselytising individual from abridging the freedom or religion of another.”

If a Jehovah’s Witness comes to your door, how does his presence abridge your freedom or religion?

I spent 25 years in the US Air force. There were no mandatory religious meetings. In 25 years, no one ever ordered me to believe. There was a lot of peer pressure at times to go bar hopping, perhaps, but never any to go to church.


452 posted on 05/04/2013 8:05:43 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: Nachum

WTF!!! This stinks and I happen to be Jewish and this still stinks. Obunghole obviously playing to liberal and atheist base trying to make the military a place where conservatives do not want to be

Turn it into an ObamaCorps to serve the (Muslim) World!!


453 posted on 05/04/2013 8:09:59 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: Psalm 73
“Meaning “Allah Akbar” is OK, “Jesus Saves” can get you jailed.”

Actually, it means that advocating and practice of sodomy is just fine with this administration but objecting to it as a sin and denouncing it on the basis of religious faith/belief will be treated as a violation of the UCMJ.

Spawn of the devil are running this country.

454 posted on 05/04/2013 8:19:59 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: TArcher
And how many Churches are devoted to the Mysteries of Mithras, lol? More to Christianity than “materialism” from one who embraces the perverted French side of the Enlightenment.
455 posted on 05/04/2013 8:28:52 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi
>>hyperbolic examples.

Colorado Crossing and Teg Haggard's (former) circus tent are both within spitting distance of the AFAcademy where Weinstein & Co.'s panties got bunched up.

Here's another example of human architecture across the street from AFA that's in FAIL mode:



Rom 1:25-26 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator — who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over...
NIV

Have a nice Sat(urn)day, FRiend -- I'm goin' out to enjoy the warmth of Apollo's flaming chariot.
456 posted on 05/04/2013 8:31:29 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher
Yes and apparently Weinstein is a Prince of abusing context and association.

OMG, essence of paganism in the days of the week, we are all at the mercy of the flying spaghetti monster or burning chariot.
457 posted on 05/04/2013 8:49:04 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Mr Rogers
Apparently your anecdotal evidence is out weighed by Weinstein’s experiences in the military. Also Weinstein and the rest of the secular “evangelists” supersede your rights; ain't diversity grand?
458 posted on 05/04/2013 8:56:35 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: RedEyeJack

“Spawn of the devil are running this country.”

And they won’t cede their power peacefully - it’s gonna’ get ugly - but this is OUR country, not theirs - and we want it back!


459 posted on 05/04/2013 1:48:27 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: MeganC

Hello, MeganC.

Here’s an example of how the military works.

“Pentagon Changes Mind, Says Soldiers Can Share Faith”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3015722/posts

Best wishes to you and your family.


460 posted on 05/04/2013 5:18:07 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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