Posted on 02/19/2005 7:36:30 AM PST by Woodworker
Panel says professor of human origins made up data, plagiarized works
A flamboyant anthropology professor, whose work had been cited as evidence Neanderthal man once lived in Northern Europe, has resigned after a German university panel ruled he fabricated data and plagiarized the works of his colleagues. Reiner Protsch von Zieten, a Frankfurt university panel ruled, lied about the age of human skulls, dating them tens of thousands of years old, even though they were much younger, reports Deutsche Welle. "The commission finds that Prof. Protsch has forged and manipulated scientific facts over the past 30 years," the university said of the widely recognized expert in carbon data in a prepared statement.
Protsch's work first came under suspicion last year during a routine investigation of German prehistoric remains by two other anthropologists. "We had decided to subject many of these finds to modern techniques to check their authenticity so we sent them to Oxford [University] for testing," one of the researchers told The Sunday Telegraph. "It was a routine examination and in no way an attempt to discredit Prof. von Zieten." In their report, they called Protsch's 30 years of work a "dating disaster."
Among their findings was an age of only 3,300 years for the female "Bischof-Speyer" skeleton, found with unusually good teeth in Northern Germany, that Protsch dated to 21,300 years. Another dating error was identified for a skull found near Paderborn, Germany, that Protsch dated at 27,400 years old. It was believed to be the oldest human remain found in the region until the Oxford investigations indicated it belonged to an elderly man who died in 1750. The Herne anthropological museum, which owned the Paderborn skull, did its own tests following the unsettling results. "We had the skull cut open and it still smelt," said the museum's director. "We are naturally very disappointed."
Protsch, known for his love of Cuban cigars and Porsches, did not comment on the commission's findings, but in January he told the Frankfurter Neue Presse, "This was a court of inquisition. They don't have a single piece of hard evidence against me." The fallout from Protsch's false dating of northern European bone finds is only beginning.
Chris Stringer, a Stone Age specialist and head of human origins at London's Natural History Museum, said: "What was considered a major piece of evidence showing that the Neanderthals once lived in northern Europe has fallen by the wayside. We are having to rewrite prehistory." "Anthropology now has to revise its picture of modern man between 40,000 and 10,000 B.C.," added Thomas Terberger, an archaeologist at the University of Greifswald. Frankfurt University's president, Rudolf Steinberg, apologized for the university's failure to curb Protsch's misconduct for decades. "A lot of people looked the other way," he said.
Too funny.
Junior, you need to read more of my posts to learn how to handle Walsh. You aren't doing so hot right now. And that's a fact.
"Put up or shut up" isn't a threat, except to the perpetually fearful. It's simply a request to put your cards on the table or quit making the claims you've been making.
Not in my neck of the woods. But I'm not the guy whining about threats.
You made a statement. The statement is wrong on it's face. You should simply admit and move on as the Klinks would say.
Bull Puckey. You have yet to provide any support for your position that creationists do science. Of course, I'm certain the lurkers have picked up on that by now.
Festival of the Belligerently Ignorant and Deceitful
For the record, I am a near atheist, that strongly doubts God had anything to do with anything, much less guiding evolution. I do however subsribe to the big bang theory. What caused the big bang? I don't have a clue.
Creationists do not do science.
Do you really think that I need to provide links to debunk such an idiotic statement. There have been untold Christians, Jews and other theists who have made science their life.
I named one for Junior and Shubi because that is all I have to do to prove their statement false. What's more, I would expect men of science to know just who the hell George LeMaitre is.
Certainly I did, I offered one name, which is all I'm required to do to prove your idiotic statement false. I would expect a man of science to know that name . That you don't isn't my problem. There are many more but what's the point? One is all it takes to disprove the statement.
And by the way, I chose that one because Junior has said he is a Catholic, if I am not mistaken, and Lemaitre was a Catholic Priest and an early proponent of the BBT, ie: creation.
Heh... yeah, and this has come up (not a euphemism) before. ;')
No link though. And, to top it off, shubi shot down your "name." Par for the course for your average creationist.
LOL, and Shubi are two peas in the same pod. You're statements have been "falsified". And without even breaking a sweat.
Neanderthal Man 'Never Walked In Northern Europe'Prof von Zieten denies the claims, saying that he legitimately obtained the skulls from a Heidelberg ethnologist in 1975. Frankfurt university last month suspended the professor from his post in the anthropology department while it runs its own inquiry.
The Telegraph (UK) | 8-22-2004 | Tony Paterson
Posted on 08/21/2004 7:25:32 PM PDT by blam
Humans were around 27,400 years ago. The remarkable thing about the find was that it was the oldest evidence of human habitation in the region. If it had been a Neanderthal skull the article would have indicated that it was a Neanderthal skull. Believe me, I've seen both human skulls and Neanderthal skulls, you can tell the difference right off.
This PROVES that evolution is wrong, for Neanderthals have been so called ancient human ancestors, not supposed to exist today, yet when we find a similar looking skull, we label it NEANDERTHAL...only the Skull is only 255 years old!!
You've got your science wrong. Neanderthals were human relatives, but evolved from a different offshoot of a common ancestor. They weren't our ancestors.
Both True and misleading enough to be massively False.
It's like saying "A democrat, by definition, is somebody who believes a democratic system of government where the people are able to decide who the leaders are to be"
It conceals the fact the Creationist, like Democrat, also has, by common usage, a specific meaning. "wacko nut-job lying to con the people"
" stupis atehistic "
How can we take anyone who spells this way seriously?
The last refuge of the scoundrel, the typo police!
Funny, creationists use the argument that a form that has moved up the branch is NOT transitional, until they think it helps them refute evolution.
It is also amusing that they try to use evolution to refute evolution when they don't do science. No creationist does science ever. They never do and that is all there is to it. ROFL
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