Did Kerry's Swift Boatmates See Atrocities?

NewsMax .com ^ | 8/04/04 | Carl Limbacher

[kattracks]

John Kerry's "band of brothers" hasn't had much to say about his 1971 testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee where he claimed GIs in Vietnam routinely committed atrocities.

Now former CNN executive Ted Kavanau says it's high time for somebody to ask them to verify Kerry's under-oath account. The would-be commander in chief claimed that American soldiers, "personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, [blew] up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war. ..."

Surely Del Sandusky, Jim Rassman or any of the other members of Kerry's crew who stood with him on the stage of Boston's Fleet Center last week must remember seeing some of this, Kavanau tells NewsMax - if indeed it was as commonplace as Kerry alleged.

If no one from Kerry's crew can recall seeing the war crimes that the Democratic nominee so vividly described, did Kerry knowingly give false testimony before Congress?

[Salvey]

As your heroine says, "Shove it!"

[dead]

What was Bush doing with his life at that time?

Flying jets in the Texas Air National Guard.

Which is more honorable?

Flying jets in the Texas Air National Guard.

[cincinnati65]

Atrocities? Absolutely, first hand his shipmates witnessed atrocities...

Kerry in command!

[Interesting Times]

Which is more honorable? Serving as a fighter pilot in the National Guard, or falsely charging American troops with systematic genocide and helping poison their reputations for decades?

It's just not that tough a call.

[The Shrew]

Lying under oath or committing war crimes... does either get a pass for C-I-C? I was drafted and only served one tour, '66-'68. But, I worked with veterans for a dozen years helping with job searches and rehab.

I've never once met anyone who put himself in for a purple heart.

I've never once met anyone who used a three injury exemption to request early rotation from duty - CERTAINLY NOT A COMMANDER.

I've never once heard anyone speak of atrocities committed by them or members of their units.

After 30 years of riding the media promotional train its time for Kerry to give America some specifics on his 16 weeks of swift boat service.

GREAT POST!

TS

[uncbob]

That is exactly the question I have been posting the last week

These guys should be asked and be on record

[VRWCmember]

Let's assume Kerry as a young man in 1971 was lying because he wanted to get the troops out of Vietnam.

What was Bush doing with his life at that time?

Welcome to FR. Interesting post history you have here. Do you have any interest in actual discourse or do you just prefer to throw about rhetorical insulting questions.

Now, in response to your question (even though you probably aren't interested in a response) President Bush at that time in his life was serving in the National Guard and was also working part time on the congressional campaign of a friend, both respectable and honorable activities. There is no indication of his giving false testimony under oath before Congress or any other government institution nor of his slandering his fellow soldiers or pilots. He also did not nominate himself for any purple heart medals for superficial "injuries" which did not require hospitalization. He further did not circumvent the chain of command following the rejection of any of those self-nominations for awards.

Based on all this, clearly President Bush's activities at the time were much more honorable than Senator Fonda's I mean Kerry's activities.

Hey troll, this kitty has a message for you:

[kattracks]

Let's assume Kerry as a young man in 1971 was lying because he wanted to get the troops out of Vietnam.

No, let's assume Kerry was lying to forge a political career for himself, using the war and Americans who were still fighting that war as pawns.

Now, what were your questions?

[grumple]

Kerry probably exchanged that testimony for three purple hearts and a ticket home...

[mugs99]

Which is more honorable?

Americans were tortured while being forced to listen to Kerry accusung them of war crimes in the Hanoi Hilton.

You call him honorable?

[Petronski]

I had a touch of dcoleum one time...caught it camping. Antibiotics took care of that.

[eyespysomething]

sKerry was working for the communists, IMHO

Intentionally. McCarthy was right.

[Grampa Dave]

How many of those brave vets were harmed by Kerry's and others calling them baby killers, rapists and worse?

[rwfromkansas]

bump

[monday]

"Let's assume Kerry as a young man in 1971 was lying because he wanted to get the troops out of Vietnam."
"What was Bush doing with his life at that time?"
"Which is more honorable?"

Do you really think falsely accusing your fellow soldiers of war atrocities is honorable? Personally, I can't think of anything less honorable.

Going out and getting hammered would be more honorable than that.

[lonevoice]

Now former CNN executive Ted Kavanau says it's high time for somebody to ask them to verify Kerry's under-oath account.

The day I see Kerry's "band of (2) brothers" from the DNC Convention being asked this question on CNN I'll be watching out for low flying pigs.

[twigs]

Rassman was not a naval officer. He was army, I believe, who just happened to be on a swift boat that day when Kerry rescued him. He wouldn't know whether or not the swift boaters committed atrocities or not unless they happened to occur that particular day.