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missus clinton's call signals polling woes/extension of Pythagorean imperative, Sunday-circuit panic
The New York Times ^ | 12.23.03 | Mia T

Posted on 12/23/2003 6:19:06 AM PST by Mia T

The missus's impromptu call signals clinton polling woes
An extension of A Scoundrel's Pythagorean Imperative, missus clinton's Sunday-Circuit, pink-suited panic

by Mia T, 12.23.03

Hillary from Westchester was on the line, and she was upset.

"Literally, I have been accused of everything from murder on down," the first-time caller complained. "And it's hurtful and personally distressing when it first happens. But when it continues . . ."

Hillary was Hillary Rodham Clinton, the junior United States senator from New York, who surprised Brian Lehrer by unexpectedly phoning his call-in show on WNYC radio in New York this month to respond to a sensational charge that a listener had made about her and her husband.

There was a time when Mrs. Clinton did her best to fade into the woodwork and be seen as just another lawmaker on Capitol Hill. But these days, the woman who started her Senate candidacy with a "listening tour" cannot stop talking -- or so it seems to politicians and strategists in both parties....

As it turns out, Mrs. Clinton was at home in Chappaqua, N.Y., listening to the program when a caller telephoned to complain that the Clinton administration had established a policy barring military personnel from entering the White House while wearing their uniforms.

Mrs. Clinton picked up the phone and got through to the show to set the record straight: it never happened.

For Mrs. Clinton, Listening Subsides and Talk Is Louder
The New York Times | 12/23/03 | RAYMOND HERNANDEZ




"Literally, I have been accused of everything from murder on down"...

As it turns out, Mrs. Clinton was at home in Chappaqua, N.Y., listening to the program when a caller telephoned to complain that the Clinton administration had established a policy barring military personnel from entering the White House while wearing their uniforms.

Mrs. Clinton picked up the phone and got through to the show to set the record straight: it never happened. " --missus clinton


hile "murder on down" is hardly a fair characterization of the hierarchy of clintoncrimes -- (are clinton treason and clinton rape really lower-order-of-magnitude horrors?) -- certainly clinton treason and clinton rape each rip the clinton military loathing charge that provoked the missus's call to Lehrer. It is especially telling, therefore, that neither clinton ever felt compelled to pick up the phone to "set the record straight" about the clinton treason and clinton rape....

clinton-impromptu-call recall...

An extension of A Scoundrel's Pythagorean Imperative and missus clinton's Sunday-Circuit, pink-suited panic, the clinton impromptu call is sure sign of clinton polling woes.

The Daily News received a similar call from the husband--remember? It occurred during the clintons' Moynihan-Senate-seat snatch when the wife's habitual ethnic slurring dealt her incipient political career a preemptive, almost fatal, blow.


hillary talks update
(schemes and themes)


missus clinton's REAL virtual office update
http://hillarytalks.blogspot.com
http://virtualclintonlibrary.blogspot.com
http://demmemogate.blogspot.com
http://www.hillarytalks.us
http://www.hillarytalks.org
fiendsofhillary.blogspot.com
fiendsofhillary.us
fiendsofhillary.org
fraudsofhillary.com

hillary talks:
ON STANDING BY MY MAN
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hillary talks:
ON VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN

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hillary talks:
ON CHINA

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hillary talks:
On White House Coverups

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hillary talks: ON TERROR
(reinstalling the clintons in White House has 1 advantage over suicide)

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hillary talks:
ON CLINTON "FINANCES"

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hillary talks:
ON PREDATORS

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hillary talks:
On White House Intimidation

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hillary talks:
ON TRAVEL OFFICE

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hillary talks:
On White House "ministering"

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hillary talks:
On Ethnic Slurs

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hillary talks:
L'Etat, c'est moi! (Iowa parsed)

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hillary talks: ON MILITARY TACTICS
The Easy Part

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copyright Mia T 2003



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To: goldilucky
CFR = Campaign Finance Reform Act
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Hillary's Inner Circle Urging Her to Run

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1045810/posts
21 posted on 12/23/2003 10:04:11 PM PST by Joy Angela (Hillary wants to put a Non-American face on the war.....Hers.)
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To: Joy Angela
According to Texe Marrs, in his Power of Prophecy, Ms. Hillary is a Jew passing as a Rodham. Most of the Democratic party is controlled by the communist elite Jews. Could be that Hillary is related to Rosa Rosenberg.
22 posted on 12/23/2003 10:25:13 PM PST by goldilucky
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To: goldilucky
HItler had jewish roots as well.


23 posted on 12/23/2003 10:33:02 PM PST by Joy Angela (Hillary wants to put a Non-American face on the war.....Hers.)
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To: Joy Angela
Hillary's "Inner Circle" is the cfr.org (council of foreign relations and foreign affairs). She takes most of suggestions from the "council" and the Rockefellers. CFR.org controls both political parties and policy agendas. They are the same ones implementing the "peace process" between Israel and Palestine (which Hillary is also involved in by her association with Arafat) which will truly backfire. Ms. Hillary is a false prophet and a witch who weaves trickery and deception upon her supporters and the masses. She will probably even win the White House presidency. If she does, woe to many people is all I can say. She is straight from hell.
24 posted on 12/23/2003 10:33:32 PM PST by goldilucky
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To: Joy Angela
Yes, I know. Stalin was also jewish!
25 posted on 12/23/2003 10:35:25 PM PST by goldilucky
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To: Howlin
 

 

ping

My take

The missus's impromptu call signals clinton polling woes
An extension of A Scoundrel's Pythagorean Imperative, missus clinton's Sunday-Circuit, pink-suited panic


on The Times article, another example of The Times' congenital failure to cease and desist reprising (resuscitating!) the "documentably dysfunctional" with "delusions" -- (The Times' own words!) -- clinton construct.
The Times must, therefore, bear sizeable blame for the 9-11 horror and its aftermath,
The Times, like the despicable pair it pimps for, has failed us utterly.


So much for nepotism, zipper-hoisted or otherwise...

hillary talks:ON TERROR
(reinstalling the clintons in the White House has one advantage over suicide)


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missus clinton's REAL virtual office update
http://hillarytalks.blogspot.com
http://virtualclintonlibrary.blogspot.com
http://demmemogate.blogspot.com
http://www.hillarytalks.us
http://www.hillarytalks.org
fiendsofhillary.blogspot.com
fiendsofhillary.us
fiendsofhillary.org
fraudsofhillary.com

26 posted on 12/23/2003 11:56:51 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: goldilucky
Please spare me (and my kinsmen). The anti-Semitic creature is not a Jew. Get your facts straight.
(It almost seems that clinton's convenient 'conversion' by you is meant to intensify the latent anti-Semitism in your comments....)

tessellations of the planet...

clintonism and the theology of contempt

by Mia T, November 2000 (sometime before the-first-Tuesday-after-the-first-Monday)

 

"I view Hillary Clinton as a great danger to Jews if she is elected."

former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir
Jewish Press, July 2000




I... underestimated the propensity of my people for narrow-mindedness and self-destruction (the Jewish vote for Mrs. Clinton was about 70%)....

Some anti-Semitism is irrational, founded in ignorance, as in Hillary's case....

But other forms of anti-Semitism can be earned, giving folks legitimate grievances against a people because they do crazy things like EXTEND HILLARY CLINTON'S POLITICAL LIFE!

This is not to cast the entire blame on Jewish New Yorkers; they alone couldn't have elected her. In my initial optimism, I equally underestimated the urban pseudo-intellectual's high-mindedness, as well as the Everyman's yearning for celebrity in his midst.

Julia Gorin, Getting used to Hillary
Jewish World Review
Nov. 27, 2000 / 29 Mar-Cheshvan, 5761

 

Let us hope that the rabbi's question was merely rhetorical. . . Let us hope that Rabbi Potasnik, and by extension, New York Jews, are not as credulous and obsequious and passive as they appear. . .

The simple answer to the rabbi's question is that the corrupt, self-serving, anti-Semitic, power-hungry harpy cannot be trusted.

Weren't we to never forget?

The Holocaust must remain, for Jew and Gentile alike, a constant reminder that mass credulity and obsequiousness and passivity are necessary for the demagogue to prevail.

To remember that six million Jews died in the Holocaust is to understand that centuries of anti-Semitic attitudes made this horror possible. We must ask ourselves what role our society played through the centuries that in any way contributed to the atmosphere that made such a genocide even thinkable.

Which brings me to the clintons and clintonism. . .

Senator Patrick Moynihan proffered one of the more incisive operant definitions of clintonism -- "defining deviancy down."

Defining deviancy down, indeed.

clintonism has made personal and public perversions, personal and public predations, not merely thinkable, not merely acceptable, but de rigueur. Watch us spin.

clintonism is the theology of contempt. Not only toward "f***ing Jew-bastards," or "dumb n***ers" or "extra-chromosome right-wingers" but toward any of us whose ideas are different from those of the clintons, Gore, and their acolytes.

hillary talks: On Ethnic Slurs

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missus clinton's REAL virtual office update
http://hillarytalks.blogspot.com
http://virtualclintonlibrary.blogspot.com
http://demmemogate.blogspot.com
http://www.hillarytalks.us
http://www.hillarytalks.org
fiendsofhillary.blogspot.com
fiendsofhillary.us
fiendsofhillary.org
fraudsofhillary.com

So the real question to be answered is this:

"What fair-minded, clear-thinking person would want to continue

with its theology of contempt?

What fair-minded, clear-thinking person would vote for hillary clinton or Al Gore?" 

EPILOGUE: November 2003

One has to wonder how much longer
the Democrats
--both the leaders of the party and the rank and file--
will tolerate the clintons,
their corruption,
their ineptitude,
their utter failure to protect America from terrorism,
their hatespin
(the ugly parroting of which is on democrat display today),
their party-decimating, country-decimating self-serving agenda,
their suffocating sense of entitlement,
their rube arrogance rooted in stupidity.

The dysfunctional twofer
has plainly destroyed the Democrat Party;
it has arrogated the Democrat Party as its own
and is now remaking it in its ugly image.
How can there not be multiple coups in the works?

 
 
a senator to Henry Hyde
 
 It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope.
We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth,
and listen to the song of that siren
till she transforms us into beasts.
Is this the part of wise men,
engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty?
Are we disposed to be the number of those
who, having eyes, see not,
and having ears, hear not,
the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation?
For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost,
I am willing to know the whole truth;
to know the worst, and to provide for it.

Patrick Henry
 
In a dark time, the eye begins to see.
Theodore Roethke
 
But even as Clinton fails to grasp the scandal's metabolism
he understands all too well its most significant byproduct.
You can see it in his eyes.
 Once reflecting a Machiavellian confidence,
they now dart back and forth reflexively,
searching futilely for approval,
attempting desperately to dispel his own certain knowledge
that his moral authority is gone. . .
forever.
Mia T
  


 
 

 

The Curious Candidacy of Carol Moseley Braun:
an Extension of clinton drag and drop and legacy of lynching
 
by Mia T, 2.20.03

If a white person was walking down the sidewalk, a black person had to get off the sidewalk so the white person could walk by. There were laws which prohibited Blacks to look at white people in the eye, and a black person could be sent to jail for "assault (reckless eyeballing)."

... Blacks who dared to challenge the rules were lynched by the thousands. Men and women were lynched. Lynchings were public events and white men, women and children went to watch Blacks being tortured and burned or hanged... Whites literally got away with murder for killing "uppity" Blacks.

Historical Backdrop to FREEDOM SONG

 

"When 'Queen Hillary' walks down the hall, you're not supposed to look at her. You're actually supposed to go into an office if there is one nearby. She doesn't want staff 'seeing' her. And I know she sure as hell doesn't want to meet you or any other staffer!" "You have to be kidding me!" John replied. "No, we got the word at a staff meeting. It's true. Look around. Do you see anyone else in the hall?" John looked around and sure enough people were starting to emerge, like prarie dogs peeking out of their burrows after a hawk had flown past.

Gary Aldrich, "Unlimited Access"

 

"I'm doing my chores for Hillary Clinton."

RON BROWN (ON HIS COMMERCE-DEPT CRIMES) TO NOLANDA HILL

 

"I will not go down alone."

RON BROWN (DAYS BEFORE HIS DEATH, ON HIS PLEA AGREEMENT WITH THE DOJ) TO BILL CLINTON

 

"It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important." 

Ironically, the logic of this pronouncement by Martin Luther King would, in short order, be refuted by the fact of his own lynching. King's hope was misplaced and his reasoning was circular. The resultant rule of law relied on by King presumed an adherence to the rule of law in the first instance.

Adherence to the rule of law is not something normally associated with the clintons. Moreover, racial and ethnic disrespect, intimidation, exploitation and hate have always been a fundamental clinton tactic and the reflexive use the "N"-word and other racial and ethnic slurs, an essential element in the clinton lexicon. When the "first black president" and his wife ran Arkansas, the NAACP sued them for intimidating black voters at the polls.

But it is the clintons' refinement of the DNC drag and drop that is, arguably, the most insidious and repugnant application of their special brand of race-hate politics.

Drag and drop is a vote fraud technique by which unwitting, unwilling and/or illegal voters -- typically inner-city blacks and other minorities -- are literally dragged into the voting booth and told where to mark the "x" -- often multiple times per election. Drag and drop does not merely undermine and corrupt our system of government. Drag and drop is not merely illegal and exploitive.

Drag and drop is racist and dehumanizing.

Calculating a black man's worth to be 5/3 of a vote is no less racist, and arguably more so, than calculating his worth to be 3/5 of a white man; the latter is demeaning, but the former is dehumanizing.

In the senate race against Rick Lazio, it is widely understood that the drag and drop, (followed by the OLD ANGLE / NEW SQUARE / OVAL OFFICE SCHEME ) was clinton's vote fraud technique of choice used to overcome her low poll numbers, high personal negatives and consistent public failures.

 

"UPPITY" BLACKS AND THE CLINTONS

The Ron Brown death and the clinton legacy of lynching represent the pernicious endpoint, but the history of clinton race-hate politics is replete with a reflexive 'disposal' of 'uppity' blacks from to Marian Wright Edelman to Lani Guanier to Jocelyn Elders to Carl McCall...

To former Atlanta Mayor Maynard Jackson. The clintons' anointment of their man, Terry McAuliffe, to the chairmanship of the Democratic National Committee didn't merely force Maynard Jackson to the back of the bus. It pushed him off.

 

Two Degrees of Segregation: Al Sharpton, Donna Brazile, Carol Moseley Braun and the clintons

The announcement that intellectual and ethical lightweight, Carol Moseley Braun intends to run for president raises the same fundamental question that hillary clinton's looming presence does: "What the hell is this moribund loser doing in the political arena, anyway?"

In order to better understand the easy entry of Moseley Braun into democrat field, clinton-clinton precedent (president!) and the field's increasingly circus-like quality notwithstanding, one must consider the precipitating acts of Al Sharpton and Donna Brazile.

The Al Sharpton candidacy, by definition, disturbed both the clinton calculus and literati sensibilities, inspiring an immediate if ineffectual Tawana-Brawley deathblow attempt by leftist media. Sharpton's response was swift and sure. He warned that the next time the media asked him about Tawana Brawley, he would invoke the clinton scandals and the media's apparent lack of interest in same when questioning hillary clinton. (Surely the clintons' rapes and other predations would trump this quaint little hoax...)

Sharpton's Harlem office effectively burned to the ground the next day--an accident they say--but he was not deterred. The media, however, apparently were; they quickly buried Tawana Brawley beside Juanita Broaddrick, somewhere in that dark recess of expediency called access journalism.

If the clintons wanted Sharpton out because of the sheer embarrassment of him before his salvo, they now would be satisfied with no less than Sharpton's head. Donna Brazile was to neutralize (decolorize?) Sharpton by creating black favorite son candidates in every state of the union. It seems that Brazile ultimately thought the better of it, warning that dem dissing was demonstrably dumb, that Sharpton could, a la Jesse Jackson, lure crucial black voters back into the democrat fold.

So how then to siphon off the black votes that will go to Sharpton? Enter clinton lackey, Carol Moseley Braun, nothing more than a cynical extension of clinton drag and drop and legacy of lynching.



27 posted on 12/24/2003 12:22:02 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
Your Hillary looks more like Denise Crosby.
28 posted on 12/24/2003 12:29:29 AM PST by Fledermaus (Fascists, Totalitarians, Baathists, Communists, Socialists, Democrats - what's the difference?)
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To: Fledermaus
I can see it. ;) I've already posted a disclaimer, tho. (virtual hillary needs some tweaking.)
  1. flatter cheekbones
  2. fleshier cheeks
  3. more sag
  4. more bags
  5. more wrinkles
  6. large raised growth near mouth
  7. shallower eye sockets
  8. increased Bugs (overbite)
  9. increased Porky (nostril oink)

29 posted on 12/24/2003 1:00:18 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Fledermaus
Would that we could permanently "beam her up" or better yet, "down."
30 posted on 12/24/2003 1:03:20 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
Pardon me if my comment about Hillary being a jew was offensive but that was not my intention. The point I was making is that Hillary and other politial candidates are desperately trying to hide their jewishness for some reason. Apparently, those like Hillary think she is superior to other people. Hillary shares a similar trait that Hitler and Stalin have. She is demonic in character. My point was definintely not anti-semitic but it is becoming a reality that those like Hillary think they are the master race to purge of those they consider "unfit" in the new age to come.

I'm a jew and proud of it. However, I do not view myself as above or superior to any other people regardless of where they come from. With those like Hillary, they hide their Jewishness for some other cause. They are not good Jews but are an abomination to the Lord. They are leading his people astray by deception and magic and because of their ways, it will cost them their souls in hell unless they start repenting and turn away from the filth and evil they bring upon others.
31 posted on 12/24/2003 1:30:51 PM PST by goldilucky
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To: goldilucky
I am sorry for jumping to an erroneous conclusion. (I, too, am jewish.)
Actually, I was sorry right after I posted my comment. On rereading everything, I felt that I had read too much into your comments. I am truly sorry.

As for hillary being jewish, the facts don't support it, as far as I know. IMO, if she had an ounce of jewish blood, she wouldn't be hiding it. She would be shamelessly exploiting it, much like wesley is doing.
32 posted on 12/24/2003 2:02:04 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T


33 posted on 12/24/2003 2:04:50 PM PST by Helms (Liberalism is a faux compassion that condescends at best and subjugates at worse)
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To: goldilucky
As a matter of fact, if you play my virtual hillary movie on ethnic slurs, you will see that hillary -- that both clintons, in fact -- have some sort of obsessive-compulsive Jewish hatred thing going on. I suspect it derives from a feeling of relative inferiority.

 

hillary talks: On Ethnic Slurs

(viewing movie requires Flash Player 6, available HERE)

missus clinton's REAL virtual office update
http://hillarytalks.blogspot.com
http://virtualclintonlibrary.blogspot.com
http://demmemogate.blogspot.com
http://www.hillarytalks.us
http://www.hillarytalks.org
fiendsofhillary.blogspot.com
fiendsofhillary.us
fiendsofhillary.org
fraudsofhillary.com


34 posted on 12/24/2003 2:16:19 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
Your apology is accepted although I thought I really had offended you. My apologies there too.



"As for hillary being jewish, the facts don't support it, as far as I know. IMO, if she had an ounce of jewish blood, she wouldn't be hiding it. She would be shamelessly exploiting it, much like wesley is doing."

There are many of those like Hillary who are afraid to expose their Jewishness. My question is why they are hiding it. For example, I found out earlier last year that I was Jewish and asked my folks why they never told me this. They told me they were deeply offended and shamed to reveal it because of what Hitler did to the Jews; not to leave out that he was also of Jewish blood. Of some Jews who partook in the extermination of Jews and escaped to the U.S., one was Joseph Mengele who participated in the exterminations and escaped to the U.S which aided in his escape. Since that time he has been working in high rank medical positions but has hidden his Jewish roots as well.



35 posted on 12/24/2003 2:43:24 PM PST by goldilucky
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To: Mia T
Ms. Hillary is well noted for her slurs bashing Jews. The problem is her is that not only is she Jewish but she gives Jews a real bad image. My folks voted for the Clintons and cannot see the demon that she really is. She truly is a disgrace.
36 posted on 12/24/2003 2:47:47 PM PST by goldilucky
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To: Just mythoughts
TRUE STORY.

When "Hillary" went to Afghanistan & Iraq this past Fall, The Air Force Pilots "Assigned to Her" used the "Callsign of" "Broomstick One" for her "Transport!!"

HOW DELICIOUS!!

I have had the story of her "Callsign" REPEATEDLY VERIFIED!!

There are Reports that "Hillary" is trying to "Suck-UP" to the Military.

"Broomstick One" is the "Military's Answer!"

"Hillary" has Earned ONLY CONTEMPT from the US Military; there is NO WAY she can establish ANY form of "Respect" from our Soldiers!!

"Hillary" has NO CHANCE to be elected to "National Office" in our Nation!!

Doc

37 posted on 12/24/2003 3:13:33 PM PST by Doc On The Bay
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To: Mia T; MeeknMing; nopardons; PhilDragoo; potlatch; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; dixiechick2000; ...


CAUTION - DO NOT CLICK BOOK!








38 posted on 12/24/2003 3:25:24 PM PST by autoresponder (SLICK http://0access.tripod.com/legacy.html OLDIES BG MUSIC: http://0access.tripod.com/slick.html)
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To: Mia T
Thanks. As the election nears, we are at alert level red, for domestic enemies gaining political power. Vote.
39 posted on 12/24/2003 3:45:42 PM PST by PGalt
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To: goldilucky
roots shmootz

"I view Hillary Clinton as a great danger to Jews if she is elected."

former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir
Jewish Press, July 2000




I... underestimated the propensity of my people for narrow-mindedness and self-destruction (the Jewish vote for Mrs. Clinton was about 70%)....

Some anti-Semitism is irrational, founded in ignorance, as in Hillary's case....

But other forms of anti-Semitism can be earned, giving folks legitimate grievances against a people because they do crazy things like EXTEND HILLARY CLINTON'S POLITICAL LIFE!

This is not to cast the entire blame on Jewish New Yorkers; they alone couldn't have elected her. In my initial optimism, I equally underestimated the urban pseudo-intellectual's high-mindedness, as well as the Everyman's yearning for celebrity in his midst.

Julia Gorin, Getting used to Hillary
Jewish World Review
Nov. 27, 2000 / 29 Mar-Cheshvan, 5761

clintonism and the theology of contempt
by Mia T, November 2000 (sometime before the-first-Tuesday-after-the-first-Monday)

 

 

WASHINGTON -- As she embarks on her campaign to represent New York in the Senate, Hillary Rodham Clinton will be able to tap a little-known aspect of her family background -- her maternal grandmother was married to a Russian-born Jew named Max Rosenberg, and Mrs. Clinton's half-aunt, Adeline Friedman, was a Jew who was interred at a Jewish mortuary.

While Mrs. Clinton has been the subject of at least three book-length biographies and numerous newspaper and magazine profiles, the colorful story of the first lady's grandmother, a feisty woman who carried the name Della Rosenberg, has until now been unknown even to many of Mrs. Clinton's closest friends. After the Forward asked about the matter this week, Mrs. Clinton said through a spokesman that she had "very fond memories" of Max Rosenberg. Two members of the Rosenberg family told the Forward this week that Mrs. Clinton remained in contact with her half-aunt Adeline until Adeline's death last year.

As Mrs. Clinton prepares to run for Senate in a state where Jewish voters are an important swing vote, the fact that the first lady had a grandmother named Rosenberg may provide a boost, some political analysts say. To be sure, Mrs. Clinton is herself a Methodist, and Jewish voters in New York have a record of paying more attention at the ballot booth to policy than to religion or cultural background. And no one is comparing Mrs. Clinton's story to that of Secretary of State Albright, whose parents hid their Jewish roots from their daughter. Still, the Rosenberg story opens a window into Mrs. Clinton's warm relations with the Jewish community and into the concern for family issues that have marked her involvement in public policy.

"Jews will now feel that she's almost one of their own. It will make it easier for Jews to connect with her," said a New York political consultant, Hank Sheinkopf, a Democrat. "People will feel that she's more like them and they'll be more likely to listen to what she has to say."

Mr. Sheinkopf cautioned that "the professional Hillary-haters will say, 'why didn't she tell us sooner,' but it won't matter. It will help her with the Jewish voters immensely. The overall impact will be favorable."

The director of New York University's Taub Urban Research Center, Mitchell Moss, said the news will have a positive effect on Mrs. Clinton's campaign. "I think it humanizes her. Hillary's family background is going to be both engaging and interesting to the voters of New York," said Mr. Moss, speaking from Jerusalem. "This new revelation humanizes Hillary and points out that she's not only a wife and a mother, but also a granddaughter."

Meet Hillary Clinton's Grandmother, Della Rosenberg
-- The Feisty Wife of a Yiddish-Speaking Jewish Immigrant
Family Secret's a Boost For Her Senate Chances
By SETH GITELL, FORWARD STAFF

"This new revelation humanizes Hillary and points out that she's not only a wife and a mother, but also a granddaughter."

If ever there was a pregnant straight line....

NEW YORK, Aug. 6 - The New York-based Forward magazine stepped forward with a story published on Aug. 6 which disclosed some distant Jewish family ties of Hillary Clinton, a would-be senator from New York. According to the story, Hillary's grandmother, nÈe Della Murray of Aurora, IL, married a Russian-born Jew, Max Rosenberg, in the 1930s. They had one child, a girl.

But claiming Hillary's Jewish roots on the basis of that marriage is a real stretch. For, this was Della's second marriage, well after the birth of Hillary's mother, Dorothy Emma Howell in 1919. In other words, Rosenberg was no blood relative to Hillary. And her grandmother never converted to Judaism. But this did not stop some Jews from adopting Hillary as one of their own anyway, especially now that she is contemplating a run for the New York Senate seat vacated by Daniel Moynahan [sic].

"Jews will now feel that she's almost one of their own. It will make it easier for Jews to connect with her," a New York political consultant, Hank Sheinkopf, a Democrat, told the Forward magazine. "People will feel that she's more like them and they'll be more likely to listen to what she has to say."

But Mr. Sheinkopf cautioned that "professional Hillary-haters will say, 'why didn't she tell us sooner,' but it won't matter. It will help her with the Jewish voters immensely. The overall impact will be favorable."

... As for the Jews who are quick to embrace the... would-be Senator as of one their own, just because her grandmother had married a Jew after divorcing Hillary's grandfather, here's something for them to chew on. This dame all seasons and vote-for-me reasons has already made history. She was the first ever First Lady to introduce the celebration of an Islamic religious holiday at the White House. Funny Mr. Scheinkopf, the political analyst, didn't mention that?

But we did. Here's an excerpt from the TiM Bulletin 96-04, Apr. 13, 1996, whose title was "Ayatollah Klintomeini." The piece was actually about how the Clinton administration's pro-Islamic foreign policy is aimed at destroying both Russia and Europe. But it also contained the following interesting episode about Hillary:

 

"I have to admit that a good deal of what my husband and I have learned (about Islam) has come from my daughter," said Hillary Clinton, addressing the members of the American Muslim Council (AMC) at the first-ever White House celebration of Eid al-Fitr (a Muslim religious holiday) on February 20, 1996. "(As) some of you who are our friends know, she (Chelsea) took a course last year in Islamic history."

Chelsea has been educating her parents about Islam ever since, the First Lady explained. As she accepted the two AMC gifts of Qur'an, the Muslim holy book, Mrs. Clinton said: "I am honored to have these gifts... one for my husband, and one for me, as Chelsea already has her copy."

Meanwhile, Steven Emerson, producer of the PBS documentary, "Jihad in America," said in his Wall Street Journal OpEd column, published on March 13, 1996, that "AMC is a radical group that supports radical Islamic terrorist movements."

In other words, while Islamic terrorists blow up the World Trade Center, for example, not to mention their hijacking, killing and maiming of Americans overseas, the Clinton family revels in celebrating Islam at the White House."

For the full text of the "Ayatollah Klintonmeini" piece...check out http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins/tim96-04a.html.

But rather than the Jewish angle, which the New York magazine tried to play up, we have found much more revealing the following segment from the Forward magazine story about Hillary's grandmother's first marriage:

"In his divorce petition, Edwin Howell said that when he came home from work one day in January 1926, his wife "insisted on wanting to go out, which she had been doing right up to date for a period of five or six months ... I couldn't go. I worked most all the time. She became abusive and angry, and scratched and bit me, flared up at me." While claims of violence made in the context of divorce cases can be questionable, especially since at the time they were one of the only ways to win a divorce, the accusation was in this case corroborated by two witnesses.

Della Murray's own sister, Frances Czeslawski, described Della Murray's "violent temper," and the confrontation on that day in January. "She wanted to go some place, and I guess Mr. Howell didn't have the circumstances to take her. She flew at him and scratched his face." An employer also testified on Edwin Howell's behalf. The divorce was finalized in 1927. Edwin Howell obtained custody of the two girls, whom he sent to live with his parents in California.

Of course, the sympathetic New York magazine tried to put a positive spin on Hillary grandmother's violent temper: "The Feisty Wife of a Yiddish-Speaking Jewish Immigrant," read the subheading of the story, adding that "Family Secret's a Boost For Her Senate Chances" (see http://www.forward.com/CURRENT/news.html). But at least now we know where the First Lady's famous temper comes from....

Hillary Clinton's Jewish Family Ties Unearthed
TiM GW Bulletin 99/8-1
Aug. 8, 1999


 

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