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White House National Security chief says UFOs are having an 'impact on our training ranges' and need to be treated as a 'legitimate issue'
UK Daily Mail ^ | 07/18/2023 | Matthew Phelan

Posted on 07/18/2023 10:29:23 AM PDT by DFG

UFOs are already having an impact on combat training for America's fighter pilots, a top national security official has warned.

'Some of these phenomena, we know, have already had an impact on our training ranges,' according to John Kirby, the National Security Council's Coordinator for Strategic Communications under President Biden.

The comments suggest a new approach from the White House, whose press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre coyly dismissed questions about the F-22 stealth raptor jets that shot down three UFOs last February by saying, 'I love E.T. the movie.'

Kirby, a retired rear admiral in the US Navy, said the unanswered questions surrounding UFOs must now be treated as a 'legitimate issue'.

In a White House briefing Monday, he told reporters: 'When pilots are out trying to do training in the air and they see these things, they're not sure what they are, and it can have an impact on their ability to perfect their skills.'

While Admiral Kirby emphasized that the Pentagon is taking the UFO issue 'seriously,' he declined to answer questions on 'individual whistleblowers' — specifically retired senior intelligence officer David Grusch, whose explosive UFO claims have sparked open congressional oversight hearings set for July 26 next week.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Military/Veterans; Science; UFO's
KEYWORDS: astronomy; chuckschumer; distraction; florida; fringe; kirby; marcorubio; mikegallagher; military; newyork; ohsomysteriouso; science; training; ufo; ufos; wisconsin
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To: Clay Moore
Dad talked of standing around a campfire with the crew of Apollo 12 during training and hearing Pete Conrad talk about getting ready to fly some new plane and having the base locked down while something that we didn’t build sat on the end of the runway.

That was 50 years ago. So why don't we have an entire Air Force of these 'secret' planes?

41 posted on 07/18/2023 11:24:12 AM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: ConservativeMind

42 posted on 07/18/2023 11:24:35 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: eastforker
I don't why you brought up trump, but he was the one who didn't question government when it mattered, he folded, and will fold again like all republicans. When he had the opportunity he went along, didn't release all jfk files, all 9/11, expanded the fbi, cia, nsa budgets, covid cash et etc. You couldn't have asked for a better puppet. The entire point of a trump presidency was to never get a outsider populist or nationalist ever elected. Now, back to the ufo disinfo.
43 posted on 07/18/2023 11:27:35 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: chaosagent

I’m a skeptic too, but right now we can do so much with drones that if we had supersecret technologies, we could still keep them under wraps.


44 posted on 07/18/2023 11:28:46 AM PDT by x
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To: GingisK

Never heard of him! I had to look him up.
From his wiki description looks like he had his head on straight!


45 posted on 07/18/2023 11:30:24 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: GingisK

Flying squirrel.

46 posted on 07/18/2023 11:31:07 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Reily

47 posted on 07/18/2023 11:31:31 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: GingisK

I don’t give a crap about their “cover-up” - apparently unlike you, I’m just not easily swayed by bullshit.


48 posted on 07/18/2023 11:32:34 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (“We should not assume civilization is robust”)
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To: Reily

He was a paid government debunker who destroyed the credibility and lives of a lot of good people. Are you sure you want to be his successor?


49 posted on 07/18/2023 11:33:10 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: chaosagent

How do you know we don’t? Do you honestly think when we ended the shuttle launches that that was the end of the US space exploration? No, what that told me was we already had a way to reach outer space without the rocket launches. Oh yes, we still have them, mainly now in the private sector launching our satellites, mainly for show and to keep the populace entertained.


50 posted on 07/18/2023 11:35:10 AM PDT by eastforker (All in, I'm all Trump,what you got!)
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To: chaosagent

Because we have yet to be able to reverse engineer their propulsion system. We have them, we just can’t figure out how it works.


51 posted on 07/18/2023 11:37:02 AM PDT by Clay Moore (My pistol identifies as a cordless hole punch)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
I’m just not easily swayed by bullshit

I have studied this for a long time. I also know many of the sources directly and personally. Other than insulting people and trying to sabotage the conversation, why are you on the thread? Everyone, including yourself, would be pleased if you made better use of your time.

52 posted on 07/18/2023 11:37:04 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

So anyone who disagrees with you is an enemy?


53 posted on 07/18/2023 11:43:18 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: Theoria

Yup, he was probably threatened with his life or the life of his family if he didn’t go along or he trusted the wrong people who were lying to him. Ask yourself why so much effort has been used, for many spectrums of the political field, to keep this man from ever being president again. Now back to the UFO technology. Ike said it best, beware the military industrial complex. The MIC are not the government, they are the private sector and they are the ones that hire the smartest and brightest and our elected official have no clue what they are up to.


54 posted on 07/18/2023 11:47:24 AM PDT by eastforker (All in, I'm all Trump,what you got!)
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To: Mariner; GingisK

“Too many seasoned, level-headed pilots are reporting these events and recording them, as are US military sensors.”

No question, Expert witnesses there. But if this happened it really bothers me:

“press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre coyly dismissed questions about the F-22 stealth raptor jets that shot down three UFOs last February”

WHY? Why would they purposely poke a Hornets next without knowing what kind of Hornets nest they are poking?

If they are shooting them down they need to STOP.


55 posted on 07/18/2023 11:51:10 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Reily
No, but I suspect anyone who approves of the actions of a known government de-bunker. People who nay-say this topic without first doing some serious reading are not worthy of much trust. Those who refuse to take into account the testimony of thousands of credible witnesses are too cynical to be worthy of serious consideration.

I don't consider you to be an enemy. I just consider you to be under-informed and detrimental to decent conversation. I'd still stand shoulder-to-shoulder with you in other matters.

56 posted on 07/18/2023 11:52:18 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Reily; GingisK

“So anyone who disagrees with you is an enemy?”

let’s be honest and fair about the situation. There is a crew around here who are constantly on the hunt for anything they do not believe or agree with. As soon as they see a title they swoop in and dogpile the thread to disrupt the thread and make sure no one at all gets to have any meaningful discussion about the topic. It is on purpose and it is selfish. If they don’t like it they kill it so no one at all gets it.


57 posted on 07/18/2023 11:58:03 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: GingisK

You were the first one tossing around insults. Didn’t know it was a closed “hobby” thread. My mistake, y’all have fun.


58 posted on 07/18/2023 12:02:13 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (“We should not assume civilization is robust”)
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To: OHPatriot

It’s all written about in “The Iron Mountain Report”. Keep the people busy with fearful distractions and they will eagerly support the Military-Industrial Complex.

And if that doesn’t work there’s always “1984”.


59 posted on 07/18/2023 12:03:57 PM PDT by Malinse (Professor Finch)
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To: Clay Moore

But in the original comment Pete Conrad was getting ready to fly one.


60 posted on 07/18/2023 12:09:55 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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