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Weekly Garden Thread - March 11-17, 2023 [Gardening After 60 Edition]
March 11, 2023 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 03/11/2023 7:51:59 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a week Ping List. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


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1 posted on 03/11/2023 7:51:59 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Good Morning! :-)


2 posted on 03/11/2023 7:52:36 AM PST by left that other site (Peacemakers who sow in peace reap a harvest of righteousness.)
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Gardening After Sixty
by Jackie Clay-Atkinson

Nearly all of us garden in some form or another. After all, isn’t growing our own food one of the tenets of self-reliance? Besides that, it’s fun, fulfilling, and good exercise. Biting into that first sun-ripened tomato, crisp, sweet carrot, or oh-too-juicy melon makes all that planning and work worthwhile instantly. But as we age, some of the work becomes more difficult and we need to find new ways to do the things that make that garden not only possible but more enjoyable, too. Now that I’m over 70 years old, I think it’s safe to claim that I know a few things about this.

Some things about gardening pretty much stay the same, no matter what age. For instance, I will always be found on our shady front porch, cutting green beans, shelling peas, or shucking sweet corn to can. That doesn’t seem a bit like work, even to my body with all its previously broken bones. (Remember, I wasn’t always old!)

But some tasks are getting a bit more difficult, so instead of quitting, I just try to think of ways to make them easier. There is usually a way to accomplish a task without all the strain it used to take.

Hauling loads

I used to just take the wheelbarrow down to the garden full of manure, mulch, or whatever, and then back up the steep hill, full of rocks, weeds, or debris. It seems like that hill has gotten steeper and longer and my bad elbow doesn’t seem to like lifting those heavy wheelbarrow handles any more.

So instead of the wheelbarrow, I find myself using our riding lawn mower and two-wheeled garden trailer, instead. Not only can I haul, sitting down, but the trailer has a dump box so I don’t have to lift heavy debris out of it, either. And my handy trailer also hauls boxes and buckets of feed, wood shavings, and garden produce from our six big gardens, all with me sitting down. Not so shabby!

But the riding lawn mower and trailer won’t fit into some smaller areas, such as when I want to transplant a young fruit tree or a clump of peonies. I’ve found that by using a snow saucer or plastic toboggan in these tighter areas, I can easily slide the unmanageable, heavy item around on the ground with little effort.

Another handy way to move heavy things is by using a two-wheeled moving dolly. These little carts are inexpensive and you can use them to move everything imaginable, from railroad ties to refrigerators. I often use them to move 100 pound sacks of feed around the homestead. I used to be able to not only lift, but carry those sacks quite a distance with ease, but that was three compressed vertebrae and a damaged shoulder ago. Now I just drag them out of the back of our Subaru, slip the moving dolly’s “foot” under the sack, and off to the barn we go.

I’ve moved tons of landscaping rock, boulders, bales of straw, and railroad ties for raised beds with mine, and it doesn’t show any wear at all.

Gardening up

In the last few years, I’ve found I’m growing more crops on trellises now, instead of in rows or beds on the ground. Reasons for this are pretty much physical. After all, it’s easier to pick pole beans rather than bush beans, and easier to harvest cucumbers hanging from a trellis instead of bending to find them in a bed on the ground. Growing on a trellis also lets you grow more food in a smaller area than when you grow on the ground. It also keeps your vegetables cleaner.

A trellis can be just about anything, but the easiest, strongest, and nicest to handle and pick from are those made of welded livestock panels or “cattle panels.” They are sturdy, not too heavy to handle, easy to cut into shorter lengths with a pair of long-handled bolt cutters, and very easy to attach to steel T posts, driven into the ground every 8 feet or so. I use zip ties for a quick, easy fix, since they’re easy to remove in the fall.

On these trellises I grow pole beans, cucumbers, melons, peas, and sugar pod peas. The wind will never blow them down, nor will the weight of the crop cause them to lean or sag. Come fall, you just have to cut them loose, remove the old vines, and lean the panels up against the garden fence. I even use them in the berry patch, making an arbor for the grape vines to climb up. I put two 16-foot panels horizontally, ten feet apart where the rows of grapes are, fastening the panels to steel T posts, then hump four more panels up over the row, placing the ends inside the horizontal panels and tying them together with fence wire (zip ties will eventually photo-degrade and break). This makes a very attractive arbor and keeps the grapes up and easy to pick.

Just like growing vegetables on a trellis, we have entirely switched to caging our tomatoes. For years I just let them sprawl on the mulch in the garden, but the more tomatoes I grew, the more my back complained about all that bending to pick them. So I started staking them up. That was fine, but required a lot of work, bending to tie the vines to the stakes as they grew taller. I tried about every cage known to man and the results were always the same; the tomatoes would get heavy and tall and a strong wind would eventually blow the cages over, even when a wooden stake was driven in to help hold the cage upright.

Then my husband, Will, began making tomato cages from concrete reinforcing wire. We were given several partial rolls by a friend who just wanted to be rid of it following a construction job on their place. So Will cut lengths so the cages would be about 18 inches in diameter, just folding the wire back on itself to hold the cage together. They are awesome! These cages are easy to pick tomatoes from, as the squares are so large.

We solved the problem of the cages blowing over by pounding a steel T post in next to the tomato plant, then sliding the cage down over both the plant and T post. Now we never have a tomato plant tip over, and I can easily harvest tomatoes without creeping along on the ground.

Bending and kneeling

One of the best things I’ve found to help me harvest such low crops as bush beans is a simple, lightweight plastic seat which fits inside a plastic bucket. A friend gave me one, and now I wouldn’t garden without it. Sure, you can just turn a five gallon bucket upside down and sit on that, but that raised edge sure cuts into you after a few minutes of sitting. This plastic seat is comfortable and you can sit on it for a long time. The bucket and lid are lightweight, waterproof, and you can vary the height of the seat by choosing the right bucket — some are three and a half gallons, others are five gallons, and a few are six and a half gallons. I like the latter, as it’s taller, and therefore easier to sit down on and get up again. I’ve found these seats at local farm and ranch stores, especially during the winter when folks are ice fishing.

More timely tips at link:

https://www.self-reliance.com/2017/09/gardening-after-sixty/


3 posted on 03/11/2023 7:56:30 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: 4everontheRight; Augie; Apple Pan Dowdy; Aevery_Freeman; ApplegateRanch; ArtDodger; AloneInMass; ...

4 posted on 03/11/2023 7:58:30 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I got some two year old onion seeds started this year and a surprising number of them came up. They are sitting on the deck box on our east and south facing back porch so hardening them off won’t be an issue later. And they are easy to bring in at night when the temperatures drop below freezing.

We hare having perfect sugaring season weather this year. The maple syrup producers are going to have a great season.


5 posted on 03/11/2023 8:05:35 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: metmom

Beau has all of his cooked down; he just has to strain it and bottle it. It’s in a big cooler right now, waiting.

We ended up with 6” of snow yesterday and another 4 coming overnight, tonight, so things are on hold right now - but I AM starting my tomato plants today! Yay!


6 posted on 03/11/2023 8:13:00 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All

Good Morning all!

Monday was the only day this past week I was able to (or felt like) working outside. I worked all afternoon Monday hauling wood chips for the garden walkways & didn’t come in until it was too dark to see what I was doing. Tuesday, I was out of town all day (riding in the car for a total of 6 hours was ‘fun’ – really got stiff after the day before!). I was so tired Wednesday, I was a ‘slacker’, then we had company Thursday, right in the middle of the afternoon which messed that up for going outside and getting all dirty/not company presentable. Yesterday was a chilly rainy day so to do something “fun” and related to gardening, it was “Dahlia Day”!

My niece grows a bush or two of dahlias – big white fluffy ones that are gorgeous in flower arrangements. I’ve been wanting to grow dahlias ever since I’ve seen hers so this year is The Year – I’m going to try Hollyhocks for the first time as well. I found some relatively “cheap” dahlia bulbs at Walmart & also bought some more expensive ones at Lowe’s – one of the bulbs at Lowe’s is the one I really wanted once I saw it. So here are links to the ones I got:

Crazy Love (my fave – similar to my niece’s, but with some lavender edging)
https://garden.org/plants/view/148094/Dahlia-Crazy-Love/

Mero Star (dinner plate size, reportedly ‘stunning’ by folks who have grown it)
https://garden.org/plants/view/531201/Dahlia-Mero-Star/

Kelvin Flashlight (another large one with blooms 6-12”)
https://garden.org/plants/view/111082/Dahlia-Kelvin-Floodlight/

Lucky Number (got to have at least 1 pink one)
https://garden.org/plants/view/171476/Dahlia-Lucky-Number/

I looked up dahlias to see if deer like them and they do, especially when young & tender. I am going to have to use 2 of my galvanized raised beds to accommodate all the dahlias I want to plant. These raised beds are in ‘pairs’ so I will have to make fencing for them & I can fence two at a time. I have plenty of wire, just need to buy the pvc for the frames … ugh – price is way up …. maybe I ‘ll get lucky & can find some pipe in one of the pole barns.

My dad loved sunflowers and I like them too, but they get raggedy pretty quickly and the squirrels get in them. I’m not going to grow a bed of sunflowers this year – if I grow any, it will be dwarf Teddy Bears. The large sunflower bed will be for zinnias since the dahlias will be in the beds I used for zinnias last year.

Silly Spring ditty that one of my dad’s favorites: “Spring is sprung, the grass is riz, I wonder where the flowers is?”


7 posted on 03/11/2023 8:17:15 AM PST by Qiviut (I'm not out of control, I'm just not in their control. $hot $hills: Sod Off)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

We’re due for that storm Monday night and all day Tuesday.

It looks like the forecast for now is for another 10” of snow. Yuck!

I hope this is winter’s last try. By this time in March I am beyond ready for milder, sunnier weather.


8 posted on 03/11/2023 8:21:18 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: Qiviut
You'll love having Dahlias. I buy the el-cheapos at Walmart and start them early in pots in the greenhouse and enjoy them late Summer into Fall up here. They are my last bloomers of the season. Some of them will need staking.

I don't bother saving the tubers, (sacrilege to some!) but you can certainly do that, too.

My fave, that is easy to find in the Walmart stock is, 'Cafe Au Lait' Dinner Plate Dahlia. Sometimes they're more 'chocolate' and sometimes more pink; probably depends upon soil acidity, though I don't know for sure. :

Anything in the 'Kelvin' series is wonderful, too!

9 posted on 03/11/2023 8:28:04 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: metmom

Remember the Storm of the Century was the last week of March ...

:)


10 posted on 03/11/2023 8:28:22 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

😠


11 posted on 03/11/2023 8:29:12 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I will probably just start mine in the garden mid-May, earlier if the weather forecast is good.

Not sure about saving bulbs - probably will for the ones that do well. My niece saves hers, my SIL doesn’t.

I’ll keep my eye out for ‘Kelvins’! Walmart did not have a good selection yesterday. Based on prices I’ve seen online, I did ok, even at Lowe’s.

LOVE the one in your picture.


12 posted on 03/11/2023 8:45:16 AM PST by Qiviut (I'm not out of control, I'm just not in their control. $hot $hills: Sod Off)
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To: Qiviut
Starting now, every week when I go into town for groceries I make it a point to stop at the Walmart Garden Center (my only local choice) to see what they've added. I'm sure I'm a few weeks behind you for Dahlia tubers, but you never know!

Also, the 'grocery' bill gets just a TAD higher every week from now on due to that, LOL!

'The Bishop's Children' is a Dahlia you can grow from seed. They are smaller, for cutting and have the most gorgeous burgundy foliage. A real eye-catcher and good filler for arrangements:

I know for sure that Park Seeds carries it.

13 posted on 03/11/2023 9:00:22 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: FRiends

14 posted on 03/11/2023 9:01:18 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
TO LINK BACK TO THE MARCH 4 - MARCH 10 2023 WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD
CLICK ON THE 60 YEAR OLD GARDENING IMPLEMENT IN THIS PICTURE!

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Pollard's F/R profile page is the location of his Prepper links and Data Base and contains the Gardening Resource files!
Click on the Open Book in the picture to link to his homepage!


15 posted on 03/11/2023 9:10:23 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Thank you Diana! A wet and rainy day here so no outside activity.

(I should get tomatoes and peppers going! Lettuce too.)


16 posted on 03/11/2023 9:15:25 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Good article! I found a way to get the compost to the garden very easily. We have one of those square black compost bins. We empty it out every other year. There is a slot at the bottom to pull out the compost. I lay a tarp there, pull out the whole of the bin, moving the tarp as I go. The garden is downhill a bit from the compost. So I just slide the tarp down and right into the garden and since the compost is in a row already, just turn and dump it. Rake it a bit and till under. So easy. Got rid of our wheelbarrow years ago.


17 posted on 03/11/2023 9:25:38 AM PST by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

This meme could actually be my Grandma!! Fun to see “her” after so many years! Thanks!


18 posted on 03/11/2023 10:06:44 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Hi!

65 years old here.

I couldn't do it without my Craftsman Garden Tractor (Named Hoss) and a variety of implements as shown:


From left to right I have a disc harrow, a ripper/tiller (those cement blocks can be added to weigh it down), a drop ball, a plow and my dump wagon.


The drop ball let's me haul my big trailer (below) around the property with just Hoss, and THAT is useful for hundreds of things!

For example, I've put all the branches and debris from a cut down tree on the trailer and been able to haul it all to a safe brush pile for burning.

19 posted on 03/11/2023 10:51:32 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Gov't declaring misinformation is tyranny: “Who determines what false information is?” )
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To: FRiends

20 posted on 03/11/2023 10:53:56 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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