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UFOs over New York (vanity)

Posted on 10/17/2008 6:52:41 AM PDT by wtc911

Ok, a vanity about UFOs no less but....I'll lay it out as I saw it....

On Wednesday 10/15/08 at @ 17:35 I was on the SW corner of Northern Blvd. and 254 Street in Little Neck, Queens, NYC. Conditions were CAVU. My grandson, a friend (40s) and I watched two very small white objects remain motionless at avery high altitude. They were high enough for a commercial jet to pass well below them. At @ 17:52 they disappeared. They did not transit the sky, they just disappeared.


TOPICS: UFO's
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To: Quix
I grew up on the water. The first time I saw a shark in the water some guy I didn't even know tried to convince me it was a dolphin.

The first time I saw a fox another guy tried to convince me it was a dog.

Neither of these guys were there at the moment of the sightings yet they were both 100% certain that THEY knew what I saw and I didn't. I think that they are both still around and posting on this thread.

81 posted on 10/17/2008 8:39:34 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

It’s amazing to me . . . as a sociologist and psychologist . . .

You made a simple observation.

You are an amateur astronomer.

You are clearly bright, logical and perceptive.

Yet, all manner of replies have been written seemingly in the tone, attitude and CERTAINTY

that they know absolutely what you saw though you, who were there and SAW—are still wisely tentative about the explanation.

Arrogance gone to seed is one of the standard hallmarks of the naysayers on UFO threads. Sadly.


82 posted on 10/17/2008 8:40:47 AM PDT by Quix (POL LDRS GLOBALIST QUOTES: #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: wtc911

You are a fairly veteran FReeper, and to my mind, there are no more honest folks than FReepers. I for one believe you. I wont make rationalizations such as swamp gas or jets because I assume you already live by large airports and know the general flight paths and schedules. I have never seen a UFO, but I have had things happen in my life that are unexplainable.


83 posted on 10/17/2008 8:42:01 AM PDT by Xenophon450
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To: wtc911

No biggy at all.

Though vanities during election time are a problem and one of JimRob’s standing requests to minimize, avoid.

Please let Las Vegas Dave and I know if you want on the UFO ping list.


84 posted on 10/17/2008 8:42:07 AM PDT by Quix (POL LDRS GLOBALIST QUOTES: #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: wtc911

I’m very pleased to meet you.

You are my kind of ?guy? . . . bright, perceptive, lots of spunk . . . reasonable, charitable to a point . . . level headed, thoughtful.

Love it. UFO threads could use another 100 like you.


85 posted on 10/17/2008 8:45:07 AM PDT by Quix (POL LDRS GLOBALIST QUOTES: #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Xenophon450

Thanks for another voice of solid reason and sanity.

Congrats.

And may you have a blessed weekend.


86 posted on 10/17/2008 8:46:34 AM PDT by Quix (POL LDRS GLOBALIST QUOTES: #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Quix

Thanks. I’d like to be on the list. I probably won’t contribute much but I do like to learn.


87 posted on 10/17/2008 8:55:19 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Xenophon450

Thanks for your open minded candor.


88 posted on 10/17/2008 8:56:13 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911; Las Vegas Dave

Thank you.

Las Vegas Dave will add you to the backup list. You are now on the main list.

It’s over 150 FREEPERS long at present.

Most get fed up with the naysayers and avoid posting much but are interested in newsy items that may come up . . . sightings etc.


89 posted on 10/17/2008 9:05:16 AM PDT by Quix (POL LDRS GLOBALIST QUOTES: #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: wtc911
I've no doubt you saw something curious. I went back to my camera and the time of my photo was 4:48 p.m. yesterday. The photo doesnt' do it justice, but as I was on 495, approaching the 278 interchange, the clouds over NYC were pushing east, and there was a neat orange glow in the clearing behind them. Because traffic was creeping I was doing a little more skywatching than usual, and I just thought I'd mention that I too saw two curious lights, movin generally from North to South. Although I was able to clearly ID them as being a jet after a little while, initially they had a very unusual appearance because of the ambient light and atmosphere.

Trust me...having experienced and/or seen some VERY unusual things while a student at Gettysburg College, I'd be reluctant to second guess another person's observations. I'm just in the area on business, so you, no doubt, are far more familiar with the normal flight paths and appearance of aircraft in the area....

90 posted on 10/17/2008 9:06:46 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: MHGinTN

LOL!


91 posted on 10/17/2008 9:12:18 AM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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To: wtc911
Sounds like high-altitude weather balloons to me also. I saw the same thing last Summer - 2 white objects very very high moving across the sky rather slowly following the same path. One appeared round, the other more tear-drop. Both appeared about 2 or 3-times bigger than the period here( . )
92 posted on 10/17/2008 9:12:22 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Joe 6-pack

Gettsyburg is one place where I know that there are ‘ghosts’. Their souls’ presence can overwhelm the emotions.


93 posted on 10/17/2008 9:12:50 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

94 posted on 10/17/2008 9:20:59 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Forget the 3AM phone call. Obama can not even answer the phone at 3PM.)
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To: wtc911
As I wrote above 'sunset' was over an hour away, there were no 'final rays of the setting sun' involved. This was still strong daylight.

That's still around the time of day when high flying objects can momentarily catch the sun's light and reflect it brightly back to you. Angle of incidence = angle of reflection. My best guesses based on years of astronomical observation is that the objects were either airplanes (headlights or late-day reflections) or balloons. :)

Sorry about the Venus thing. That obviously wasn't what you saw since, as you reminded, the (two) objects you saw were in the east. Anyway, at least I alerted others who may not have known that Venus is currently a very bright evening object in the western sky just after sunset.

95 posted on 10/17/2008 9:24:19 AM PDT by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: wtc911

Just wanted to clarify, I meant to put that dopey smile sign “:)” after the second paragraph, not the first. In other words, I wasn’t trying to mock you about the sightings.


96 posted on 10/17/2008 9:45:13 AM PDT by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: ETL

No problem, I understood your good intentions.


97 posted on 10/17/2008 11:45:34 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: NavyCanDo
Sounds like high-altitude weather balloons to me also. I saw the same thing last Summer - 2 white objects very very high moving across the sky rather slowly following the same path. One appeared round, the other more tear-drop. Both appeared about 2 or 3-times bigger than the period here( . )

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I've seen the balloons myself. This was different. I don't know what they were, I just know that they are outside my life experience and knowledge.

98 posted on 10/17/2008 11:48:35 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

OK then... still could be satellites or something. I live at an altitude that’s not too far away from NYC, and I remember as a kid I’d go online to this tracker that NASA had that would tell you when the space shuttle or space station or whatever would pass over where you live, and then go outside and watch it pass over. It was pretty bright, to the point where it was clearly visible to the naked eye in the early evening. They have similar sites for some or their satellites and stuff, so next time, if you’re wondering, you can go online to either eliminate or confirm the possibility of it being a NASA satellite. In either case, it’s something that you and anyone else on this thread who’s an amateur astronomer might find interesting.


99 posted on 10/17/2008 12:42:10 PM PDT by Hyzenthlay (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Hyzenthlay

I’ve watched satellites transit plenty of times. This was different.


100 posted on 10/17/2008 12:57:58 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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