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Proof that Hawaii did not verify the information on Obama's birth certificate.
Star Bulletin ^ | sarah p

Posted on 01/28/2009 12:23:29 PM PST by sarah p

To battle a spate of unsubstantiated rumors, including one that Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen, the Obama campaign launched a Web site called "Fight the Smears." It shows a copy of his Hawaii birth certificate.

Onaka said he has had many calls asking him to confirm Obama's birth certificate, but he cannot disclose such information: "Only Obama can consent to that."

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: barackobama; berg; bho2008; bho2009; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; constitution; coverup; eligibility; fbi; federalcourt; hawaii; ineligible; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obamatruthfile; orly; orlytaitz; scotus; taitz; truthers
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To: Fred Nerks
How lovely, a "short form" marriage certificate. Notice that the small print seems to indicate that it's not a copy of the original, but rather says it's a true and correct abstract from the officl record.

A higher resolution version is here It's not a copy of an original document at all. Just like an "abstract birth certificate, known in Hawaii as a "Certification of Live Birth".

61 posted on 01/28/2009 5:37:18 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: seekthetruth
How about HR 1022 - Gives power to the Attorney General to ban weapons of his choice.

Holder is not in yet although it's slim to none that he will be turned away by the Senate vote.

62 posted on 01/28/2009 5:39:12 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: DouglasKC
If the law reads as as you indicated in bold type, I would submit that any American citizen has a direct and tangible interest in the record in this instance because the record will be dispositive in determining whether or not the Constitution is being followed.

I would also suggest that such consideration trumps any interpretation you may wish to give the Hawaii statute, since the US Constitution supercedes state law when there is a conflict.

63 posted on 01/28/2009 5:39:38 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: seekthetruth

Obama possesses very little patriotism and his lack of natural born citizenship shows.


64 posted on 01/28/2009 5:50:44 PM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: null and void

Thanks for the pings today; I do appreciate it.


65 posted on 01/28/2009 5:52:01 PM PST by Oorang (Tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: lilylangtree

... all that we have to do is get Obama’s original vault copy birth certificate by subpoena.


66 posted on 01/28/2009 5:53:32 PM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: real_patriotic_american

No secret is safe and that vault in some way or some how can be breached. Just a matter of how & what kind of cooperation can be bought. The problem is covering the tracks. Then widespread distribution. It’ll take obozo & his RATS a long time to find out but the damage will be done. And SCOTUS can’t ignore public opinion.


67 posted on 01/28/2009 6:00:50 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: seekthetruth
How about HR 1022 - Gives power to the Attorney General to ban weapons of his choice.

As far as I can tell, and I check pretty much daily, no similar bill has yet been filed in the new, 111th, Congress.

There is a bill that would require registration of all handguns and all semiautomatics with removable magazines. It would also require a license to posses them, and would require you to provide a thumbprint in order to obtain that license, You would also have to take a test, one which Eric Holder would be allowed to make as difficult as he wished. It would make it a crime to not report the loss or theft of any firearm within 72 hours, or to not report a change of address of someone with a such a license within 60 days. In both cases the report would be to the Attorney General. It's HR 45, and the sponsor is former Illinois Black Panther leader, Bobby Rush. Obama's Congressman, also Bill Ayer's Congressman.

68 posted on 01/28/2009 6:01:52 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: little jeremiah; Chief Engineer; BP2; LucyT; Calpernia; ExTexasRedhead; pissant; David; ...
My goodness, a lot of people in Hawaii have major grievances with Onaka.

The purpose of this article is to make Onaka the good guy by extolling the fact that he got an award for his job.

Leftists conferring awards on their fellow leftists for service done for their cause is nothing new. It goes back at least to the 1930s when a NY Slimes reporter got a Pulitzer for lionizing Josef Stalin and his economic policies.

I wouldn't be shocked if this statist Onaka got his award for keeping quiet on Obama's BC. Plus, this puff piece in the local newspaper could be part of the "thank you."

69 posted on 01/28/2009 6:02:33 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: little jeremiah; Chief Engineer; BP2; LucyT; Calpernia; ExTexasRedhead; pissant; David; ...
My goodness, a lot of people in Hawaii have major grievances with Onaka.

The purpose of this article is to make Onaka the good guy by extolling the fact that he got an award for his job.

Leftists conferring awards on their fellow leftists for service done for their cause is nothing new. It goes back at least to the 1930s when a NY Slimes reporter got a Pulitzer for lionizing Josef Stalin and his economic policies.

I wouldn't be shocked if this statist Onaka got his award for keeping quiet on Obama's BC. Plus, this puff piece in the local newspaper could be part of the "thank you."

70 posted on 01/28/2009 6:04:53 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

bump


71 posted on 01/28/2009 6:05:29 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: lilylangtree

I love it and agree! SCOTUS can’t ignore public opinion.


72 posted on 01/28/2009 6:08:13 PM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: sarah p; All
...a spate of unsubstantiated rumors, including one that Obama is not a natural-born U. S. citizen...

They really got that one backward. The unsubstantiated rumor is that Obama is a natural-born U. S. citizen.

73 posted on 01/28/2009 6:10:42 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: nominal

Just my opinion, but you almost have to have someone past retirement to refuse a direct order from Obama directly in order to make this work.

Don’t read me wrong, I want Obama declared an illegitimate and ineligible as president by a court of law just as much as anyone here but an inactive reservist Colonel or not is not going to be enough.


74 posted on 01/28/2009 6:16:12 PM PST by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: lilylangtree
And SCOTUS can't ignore public opinion.

Not necessarily true. There have been many instances in American history where SCOTUS decisions did not necessary follow public opinion. And that, in and of itself, is not a bad thing. The alternative would be for SCOTUS to do polling on every case that came before it in order to make its ruling, which would be totally absurd.

What the SCOTUS needs here is guts to enforce the Constitution, not a public opinion poll!

75 posted on 01/28/2009 6:27:59 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: usmcobra

An active duty member would be a better choice but it’s worth a try.


76 posted on 01/28/2009 6:31:40 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: usmcobra

It wouldn’t surprise me one bit at this point if the courts say it isn’t enough, or find some other excuse.


77 posted on 01/28/2009 6:43:21 PM PST by nominal (Christus dominus. Christus veritas.)
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To: lilylangtree
Wonder if a clerk could be bribed to circulate the birth certificate? If the media can obtain the divorce records of Ryan, surely a lowly clerk could be bribed to make a copy of the birth certificate on file if there is one.

LOL, sure. Remember during Christmas when the power was out all night while zer0 was there. Soros and zer0 comrades paid big dollars to take care of that. Betcha it's now *missing* or the damned best fake millions can buy was replaced. The original was dumped in the Pacific with granny.

78 posted on 01/28/2009 6:50:56 PM PST by mojitojoe (THAT SILLY LITTLE WIMP IS NOT MY PRESIDENT)
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To: sarah p

Do you know the difference between a ‘certifcation of live birth, CoLB (what Obama claimed was posted at fightthesmears and Kos and factcheck-all the same forgery, apparently), and an actual birth certificate? Conflating the two very different documents seems to be aiding the obama deceit campaign since the actual birth certificate has not been shown, no one claims to have read it and Hawaiian officials have avoided commenting directly on contents of such that they calim is in their vault. Of course, what is in their cvault may be the Indonesian document which had to be submitted to HI when Stanley Ann brought Obummer back to Hawaii from Indonesia where he had been adopted by Lolo. The Indonesian documents may not even show he was born in Hawaii yet his mother could have applied foran HI birth certificate and gotten it for him.


79 posted on 01/28/2009 6:59:40 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: trumandogz

without documentation, you go with witness statements.

of course, there is also that kenyan birth certificate that popped up for an barak hussien 0bama jr...

at that point, you have hard evidence for foreign birth. you have witness testimony and governmental documentation.

the only way to refute would be to open the vault and locate said certificate in hawai’i. (and no... no one, including 0bama, should not be allowed to be alone with the document)


80 posted on 01/28/2009 7:05:28 PM PST by sten
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