Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.
The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.
Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.
(Excerpt) Read more at web.israelinsider.com ...
Then here is your opportunity to teach me about logic.
The airport reconstruction site has the photos dated circa ‘61-’62. They can’t be older than that from the site posted here.
So, who is the boy?
Maya Kassandra Soetoro-Ng (born August 15, 1970 in Jakarta, Indonesia.
I assume the quote is from the Wiki link that appears below it. I now find when I link the Wiki article, a notation that the entire article is being considered for deletion. More facts that don't fit the legend to be removed.
Her quote that the "wedding picture" has "been reported as a wedding picture" supports the original attribution to a label provided by Obama in one of the earlier photo groups that now also appears to have been taken down.
Ann is too young in this photo to be the same age as she is on the floor in the Christmas Tree photo--so is Obama Sr.--he is clearly older in the 1972 photo than he is in the airport pictures also. And it appears that the airport depicted in the photos had been torn down by 1972 or at least was no longer in use as a ticketing, baggage check in departure area.
Obviously, the other side is also concerned about the inconsistencies in the photo and textual record. And I assume they are continuing to read this thread.
Ann would have HAD the baby waiting for a 'nephew' to get a visa to fly to the US from Kenya (to help her "pack") ....by himself.
Wow, Barack looks mighty healthy and fit being 10 years old in 1961-1962.
If picture 3 was taken in the same building as picture 2, it was facing in the opposite direction because there is not a line of windows in picture 2. If picture 1 really was a “wedding photo” and the kid in picture 2 really is Barry, then what Michelle said about Barack being born to a “very young” “very single” mother is true. Though why in the world would the two fly back to Hawaii when he was about 10, get married, and then his dad fly off to marry yet another woman in Africa? Also, in picture 1 Barry’s mom is considerably heavier and older than she was in the photo where she’s holding Barry when he was about 3 (I don’t know where that photo is at the moment).
Pictures 1, 2, and 3 are the old airport that was demolished in 1965.
If you look back further in the thread, Political Junkie and JellyBean have the links to the old airport site as well as the airport map.
This is why the boy can’t be Obama Jr.
I’ve referenced you both multiple times without pinging you.
From allAfrica.com Kenya: Special Report: Sleepy Little Village Where Obama Traces His Own Roots
this is an article from 2004. Here's a quote from the last 4 paragraphs of the article...
According to the family, Obama's father travelled to America to study at the University of Hawaii in 1959. While there, he worked for an oil company and married his second wife, a white woman, named Anna Toot, and their union produced Barack Obama Jr.
Between midnight PDT when you posted this and now, that article also has been scrubbed.
One point of some importance in this early Africa history of Obama Sr. is his location. Apparently he was set up personally in Nairobi before he went to Hawaii. So the story about the early wife not having met Ann might well be true if Sr. took Ann to Kenya to marry her.
Her hospital story about meeting the third wife at that time implies that Sr. was not particularly forthcoming about his multiple wives. So if Sr. had resources in Kenya at the time he married Ann, and at the time Jr. was born, he might well have acted to separate the events from the family base in Northwest Kenya.
And it may well also be that the actor, seeking to avoid committing bigamy in the US and marry Stanley Ann in a forum in which he was not only not committing a crime but also would have be contracting a legal marriage was Sr., not the Dunhams.
Records of the marriage and birth might well have been filed in either Nairobi or Mombasa. The Wayne Madsen report has the birth documents coming from Mombasa; would not be surprising if that is where the marriage documents are filed also--even though the legend places the family at the other end of the country in the tribal region.
Anna Maria Toot, b. Adams Co., Pa., ... [1786 or 1787], d. Delaware Co., Ohio, 23 Aug. 1841, bur. Radnor Cemetery, Radnor, Ohio
Perhaps Obama's mother married under the alias "Anna Toot" (someone she knew she was named after) to hide the fact that she was barely eighteen and pregnant when she married and also lied about her age. It then becomes possible that his mother's name on his original birth certificate is "Anna Toot" and his real name could be Stanley Barry Obama-Toot.
Or even Stanley Toot if his father wasn't there for the birth.
I found that article under search, it is still there along with about one hundred other article about Obama.
Another of the sites they have pulled down reported that Ann's family pretty well abandoned her when she turned up pregnant. Their views obviously changed after the son was born; after Ann split the sheets with the son-in-law.
I like your theory better that has Stanley Ann birthing a 10 year old circa ‘61-’62.
Thank you for the lesson in logic :)
I can't reason you out of a position you didn't use reason to get into. ;o)
Signing off...
If they applied for a marriage certificate in Hawaii, under an alias, Stanley Ann would have needed fake ID stating she was a Toot. Then again, maybe she needed to fake ID anyway to change her age? What was the age of consent laws in HI then?
Looks like, if she married at 17, she would have needed parental permission or a fake ID:
The legal age to marry is 18 years for both males and females. Males or females of 16 or 17 years of age who wish to marry require the written consent of both parents, legal guardian, or the family court.
http://www.destinationweddingtravel.com/dw/site/main/traveldetails.asp?dw_dpid=26&dw_showpage=dstp
Of course she may have done it on purpose, to hide the fact she was marrying a bigamist, or even at his request. I bet all she had to do was swear to an affidavit saying she was "Anna Toot" to get married and get ID bumping her age up a couple of years.
Here is the link to the "Anna Toot" story that keeps disappearing.
Since it isn't a fictitious name drawn out of the air and has it's actual root in Obama's family tree I believe it is part of the Birth certificate puzzle and would not be surprised in the least if there is a birth announcement for Anna Toot's son in the Hawaiian papers
More on “Toot”. Apparently his it is a nickname for his grandmother.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/familytree/545449,BSX-News-wotreeee09.stng
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Her name is Madelyn Payne Dunham, but to Obama she was always “Toot,” a shortened version of Tutu, a Hawaiian word for grandmother or older female relative.
More names.
more names
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