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Neanderthals may have eaten maggots as part of their diet
Science: ScienceInsider ^ | March 19, 2025 | Ann Gibbons

Posted on 07/26/2025 10:20:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

...In 1991, researchers first revealed that the fossilized bones of Neanderthals had high ratios of nitrogen 15 compared with nitrogen 14 -- usually the signature of a high-meat diet... bigger meat eaters than even hypercarnivorous hyenas and lions. Butchered animal bones at archaeological sites reinforced the view that our close relatives relied heavily on meat from big game hunting.

...archaeologist John Speth of the University of Michigan... described accounts by missionaries and Arctic explorers of people who fell sick with "rabbit starvation" -- an illness that afflicts those who eat mainly lean, high-protein game meat and too little fat...

Speth's paper offered a clue -- he quoted Arctic explorers who described Indigenous people eating "thoroughly putrefied, maggot-infested animal foods as highly desirable fare, not starvation rations." Although eating rotten meat or fermented fish isn't common in Western diets, it's not unheard of: Beasley showed conference attendees slides of casu marzu, a traditional Sardinian cheese teeming with the live larvae of cheese flies...

Beasley... described unpublished results from a new study in which she tested 389 fly larvae from three species -- blow flies, cheese flies, and black soldier flies -- and found that the longer the insects fed on rotting tissue, the higher the nitrogen values of the larvae... the larvae of black soldier flies that feed on rotting tissue are about eight times higher... significantly higher than the nitrogen values found in animals and fish that humans hunt and eat, according to reports by Speth...

they're practically unavoidable when processing game outside. They are also easy to scoop from the soil beneath a carcass, she notes. And they're a salty tasting food full of fat and protein enjoyed by many modern foraging groups, according to Beasley's co-author, biological anthropologist Julie Lesnik of Wayne State University.

(Excerpt) Read more at science.org ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: casumarzu; dietandcuisine; fauxiantroll; fauxiantrolls; godsgravesglyphs; huntergatherers; maggots; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals; norefrigeration; paleodiet; racisttagline; youngearthdelusion; youngearthdelusions
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

I don’t think they purposely killed the child to eat it. I think the child might have died through natural causes or starvation and then out of desperation the others ate it after it had died. It has happened many times in dire survival situations.


41 posted on 07/26/2025 1:06:57 PM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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"Oh, come on! This isn't food! This is what food eats!"

Oh, come on! This isn't food! This is what food eats!

42 posted on 07/26/2025 1:09:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The moron troll Ted Holden believes that humans originated on Ganymede.)
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To: Redcitizen

The tough part was strapping them to the bumper and not have the car flip over.


43 posted on 07/26/2025 1:10:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The moron troll Ted Holden believes that humans originated on Ganymede.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Speaking of survival, Srednik highly recommends the book FOLLOW THE RIVER by Thoms, the escape from Shawnee captivity by Mary Ingals during the French and Indian War.


44 posted on 07/26/2025 1:11:14 PM PDT by Srednik (Polyglot. Overeducated. Redeemed by Christ. Anticommunist from the womb.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Neanderthals, maggots and democrats, what’s the difference, so they were cannibals.


45 posted on 07/26/2025 1:12:02 PM PDT by redfreedom (Happiness is shopping at Walmart and not hearing Spanish once!)
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To: joshua c

Could be... or maybe Fear Factor got it from that episode where Riker was in the officer exchange and was given live gach to eat.


46 posted on 07/26/2025 1:12:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The moron troll Ted Holden believes that humans originated on Ganymede.)
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To: joshua c

No-it was my choice-he never understood why I did that, because his sense of smell was not offended by the odors of kimchee or fish sauce-or any other food, no matter how smelly it was. Like many country people, I will eat just about anything fresh-brains w/scrambled eggs, barbacoa, menudo, grilled rattlesnake, mountain oysters, even most odoriferous cheese-but if it has a rotted/fermented smell, there is no way I’m touching it.

I almost offended a Japanese neighbor of mine when she gifted me with a container of homemade soybean curd. She explained that it was for spreading on crackers, etc, as I opened the container, she was explaining how many weeks it had been fermenting-the smell would have gagged a hungry raccoon-it was all I could do to not gag as I thanked her and replaced the lid. MrT5 ate the stuff-said it was delicious...


47 posted on 07/26/2025 1:37:33 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"... )
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To: Openurmind

“Donner party-please come to the front desk...


48 posted on 07/26/2025 1:40:42 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"... )
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To: SunkenCiv

Or they may not have.


49 posted on 07/26/2025 1:41:06 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SunkenCiv

And where are they now?


50 posted on 07/26/2025 1:43:09 PM PDT by Organic Panic ('Was I molested. I think so' - Ashley Biden in response to her father joining her in the shower. )
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To: SunkenCiv

“Live gach”-supposed to be best when it is very fresh...


51 posted on 07/26/2025 1:43:24 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"... )
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To: Texan5

And a more recent one, Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571.

https://www.history.com/articles/miracle-andes-disaster-survival


52 posted on 07/26/2025 1:52:59 PM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: BenLurkin

Good for the Neanderthals.


53 posted on 07/26/2025 3:24:14 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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To: Texan5

I like kim-chee, the fish sauce, not so much


54 posted on 07/26/2025 4:01:21 PM PDT by Fai Mao (I used to care, but things have changed ~ Bob Dylan)
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To: Organic Panic

Right in your genes, with the rest of your ancestors.


55 posted on 07/26/2025 5:04:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The moron troll Ted Holden believes that humans originated on Ganymede.)
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To: Srednik

novel:

https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/follow-the-river_james-alexander-thom/247966/


56 posted on 07/26/2025 5:40:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The moron troll Ted Holden believes that humans originated on Ganymede.)
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To: Texan5

Served in a nice Romulan ale sauce, maybe...


57 posted on 07/26/2025 6:43:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The moron troll Ted Holden believes that humans originated on Ganymede.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Now that was funny!!


58 posted on 07/26/2025 6:59:43 PM PDT by Redcitizen
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To: Openurmind

Maybe they preferentially ate their neighbors’ children.

Some of these inferences about the distant past are made on scanty evidence and necessarily involve significant guesswork.


59 posted on 07/27/2025 7:36:08 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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