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The first known fossil of a Denisovan skull has been found in a Siberian cave
Science News ^ | March 29, 2019 | Bruce Bower

Posted on 04/08/2019 12:15:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Such evidence is tough to interpret at this point, paleoanthropologist María Martinón-Torres of University College London said at the meeting. Interbreeding of closely related populations, such as Denisovans, Neandertals and H. sapiens, generates novel skeletal features that can obscure what started out as, say, a distinctive Denisovan look, she suggested.

Whatever evolutionary niche these mysterious hominids occupied, at least three separate Denisovan populations interbred with ancient humans, population geneticist Murray Cox of Massey University in Palmerston North, New Zealand, also reported at the meeting. Genetic remnants of two of those populations appear in modern aboriginal groups in Papua New Guinea, Cox and his colleagues found.

People on Papua New Guinea interbred with one genetically distinct Denisovan population around 46,000 years ago, the scientists estimate. Interbreeding with a second line of Denisovans took place by about 30,000 years ago and possibly as recently as 15,000 years ago.

If the latter estimate proves correct in further studies, "Denisovans were the last surviving hominids who were not Homo sapiens," Cox said. Those last survivors likely inhabited Papua New Guinea or a nearby island, he added.

The team probed about 3,000 DNA samples, obtained from around 100 communities on Papua New Guinea and other Southeast Asian islands, for molecular signs of interbreeding with Denisovans. The new DNA analyses suggest that some now living on Papua New Guinea and nearby islands carry roughly 400 Denisovan genes involved in immune and dietary functions. Denisovan DNA previously identified in present-day Siberians, East Asians and Native Americans does not occur in island Southeast Asia and thus represents a third Denisovan line, the researchers found.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: ancientnavigation; cryptobiology; denisovans; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; navigation; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals; newguinea; papua; papuanewguinea

1 posted on 04/08/2019 12:15:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 04/08/2019 12:16:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv; LucyT; Fred Nerks

Finally, they found my skull from a former life in a Siberian cave!(Well, I suppose it could be Fred’s or Lucy’s)


3 posted on 04/08/2019 12:28:51 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: SunkenCiv

Dogs breed with dogs. Goats with goats. Humans with humans. There are no separate “species.” Gorillas do not breed with humans. That would be inter-breedings. Until we shed the Darwinian theory of evolution, there will be no progress.


4 posted on 04/08/2019 12:36:53 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Candor7
"I'm looking for a one-of-a-kind item to remember my trip to Spain." "Here's Julius Caesar's skull. $500." "That's pretty steep. Do you have anything cheaper?" [antique store guy rustles around under the counter] "This is Julius Caesar's skull as a boy. $200."

5 posted on 04/08/2019 12:38:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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6 posted on 04/08/2019 12:38:24 PM PDT by z3n
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To: imardmd1
Yes, and the article made that point without mentioning gorillas or Darwin.

7 posted on 04/08/2019 12:38:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: imardmd1

Lions can’t breed with tigers?
Zebras, donkeys and horses can’t interbreed?
Polar and Grizzly bears can’t breed?
Wolves, coyotes and dogs can’t interbreed?

IIRC, the Russians tried some experiments with human, gorilla and chimpanzee embryos without success. It was, as I remember, back in the 40s or 50s so, today, who knows.

Homo Sapiens, Homo Neanderthalensis and Homo Denisova are much closer genetically than gorillas or chimps. Currently in science, they are not sure if Neanderthalensis and Denisova are a separate species or just a sub-species. There are very specific genetic differences. Is it enough difference to classify them as a separate species? That has arguments both ways. Neanderthalensis contributed genes for blond and red hair and light skin to modern man.


8 posted on 04/08/2019 1:24:41 PM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member)
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To: El Laton Caliente; imardmd1

And let’s not forget Bos taurus and Bos Indicus breeding with each other; and with bison.

Or white tails with mule deer.

And ducks are a so promiscuous between species, that it’s ludicrous.


9 posted on 04/08/2019 1:50:02 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch
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To: SunkenCiv

Dennis Sovan? Yeah I knew him in High school. Wasn’t much on brains but he was a great athlete.


10 posted on 04/08/2019 2:06:47 PM PDT by Redcitizen
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;^)

11 posted on 04/08/2019 2:15:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: imardmd1
"Dogs breed with dogs. Goats with goats. Humans with humans. There are no separate “species.” Gorillas do not breed with humans. That would be inter-breedings. Until we shed the Darwinian theory of evolution, there will be no progress."

You might want to learn what Darwinian evolution is before forming opinions about it.

12 posted on 04/08/2019 2:22:16 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Candor7
It was mine, my species shed their skulls each winter and grow a new carapace...


13 posted on 04/08/2019 4:35:57 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thank goodness your ancestors moved out of Siberia to Australia!


14 posted on 04/08/2019 5:33:10 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: SunkenCiv

Very much the same in Africa, where they sell hyena hides as leopard , and every young man you meet has 200 sisters they want you to date.


15 posted on 04/08/2019 5:36:34 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: imardmd1

“Gorillas do not breed with humans.”

I’d bet Stormie Daneils has.


16 posted on 04/08/2019 5:40:24 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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