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Astronomers find far-flung wind from a black hole in the universe’s first light
ScienceNews.com ^ | Dec 5, 2018 | Lisa Grossman

Posted on 12/05/2018 7:07:24 AM PST by ETL

Astronomer Mark Lacy and colleagues used the Atacama Large Millimeter Array in Chile to observe the universe’s first light, and found evidence of gusts flowing from a type of black hole called a quasar.

The wind extends about 228,000 light-years away from the galaxy that surrounds the quasar. Previously, astronomers had seen signs of these winds only about 3,000 light-years from their galaxies.

The result, published November 12 at arXiv.org, could help resolve questions about how black holes can grow with their galaxies, or shut galaxies down for good.

Black holes are best known for gravitationally gobbling everything that veers too close. Paradoxical as it sounds, supermassive black holes can also send material in the opposite direction, driving powerful flows of charged gas and plasma away from their host galaxies.

These black holes are victims of their own success, pulling in more material than they can consume at once. The excess material surrounds black holes in a tight swirling disk, where friction heats it to hundreds of millions of degrees Celsius. The black hole plus that bright disk is a quasar.

All that heat, plus some help from magnetic fields, create great gusts that carry gas and plasma away (SN Online: 3/6/17).

“The black hole can’t swallow all of that stuff,” says Lacy, of the National Radio Astronomy Observatory in Charlottesville, Va. “It has to blow some of it out.”

Measuring such winds’ extent and energies could help scientists figure out how material spit out by the black holes might influence the way the galaxies grow and evolve. If the wind doesn’t blow far enough from the galaxy, for example, the material in the gusts could fall back down into the galaxy and be recycled into new stars — or blown back out again (SN: 7/21/18, p. 16).

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KEYWORDS: astronomy; haltonarp; quasar; science; stringtheory
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“The black hole can’t swallow all of that stuff,” says Lacy, of the National Radio Astronomy Observatory in Charlottesville, Va. “It has to blow some of it out.”

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1 posted on 12/05/2018 7:07:24 AM PST by ETL
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“The black hole can’t swallow all of that stuff, it has to blow some of it out.”

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2 posted on 12/05/2018 7:09:32 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: ETL

far-flung wind from a black hole...

It wasn’t me.


3 posted on 12/05/2018 7:10:06 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: dp0622; tx_eggman

Eggman... have you been eating rock snails again?!?


4 posted on 12/05/2018 7:13:20 AM PST by SpinnerWebb (Winter is coming)
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So, they found the universe’s first blow job?..................


5 posted on 12/05/2018 7:13:23 AM PST by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: SpinnerWebb

:)


6 posted on 12/05/2018 7:21:13 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: dp0622

Popping corn right now!!


7 posted on 12/05/2018 7:22:11 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: ETL

In all seriousness, an article that is almost too hard for me to comprehend in a universe so vast I CANNOT comprehend it at all.

Science that just BOGGLES and ASTOUNDS me.

How does one not believe in a God with all this?

But that’s for another thread.

Breathtaking picture, BTW


8 posted on 12/05/2018 7:22:36 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: ETL

The winds from the beginning of the universe? We haven’t even found the edges or the middle yet, and have a 99% chance of never finding them. It’s a bit early to say we’ve found stuff from the beginning.


9 posted on 12/05/2018 7:28:04 AM PST by lurk
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To: lurk
It’s a bit early to say we’ve found stuff from the beginning.

But it's not too late to look for the things preceding the end.

10 posted on 12/05/2018 7:44:53 AM PST by BipolarBob (Have a McClane Christmas : "Now I have a machine gun HO-HO - HO".)
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To: dp0622

>>Breathtaking picture, BTW

I thought it was a The Pink Floyd album cover


11 posted on 12/05/2018 7:55:44 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committtee)
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To: dp0622

LOLOL!


12 posted on 12/05/2018 7:59:29 AM PST by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: dp0622

One reason it may be hard to understand is that the article is complete garbage: “from a type of black hole called a quasar” is as red as red flags get that the author is ignorant of the subject.


13 posted on 12/05/2018 8:02:41 AM PST by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 2)
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To: dp0622

Exactly.. but hey.. We are not supposed to comprehend it. Heck.. time doesn’t even exist.. We created the concept to make sense out of everything.


14 posted on 12/05/2018 8:07:12 AM PST by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: thoughtomator

From what I understand, black holes are more of at gateway or wormhole.


15 posted on 12/05/2018 8:09:25 AM PST by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: DivineMomentsOfTruth

In reality they are a complete fiction. No one has ever observed one, and the physics that describe them belong in the realm of absurdities. If you dig deep into the question of “how do we know black holes exist”, you find out that the basis for claiming they exist is breathtakingly flimsy.


16 posted on 12/05/2018 8:15:07 AM PST by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 2)
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To: ETL; 1FreeAmerican; A. Patriot; AndrewC; antonia; aristotleman; Art in Idaho; Bellflower; ...
The latest ad hoc excuse from gravity driven cosmologists to try and explain what they cannot explain properly without invoking what they don’t understand at all. . . And choose to ignore as not being present in space, a force 1039 stronger than gravity which IS capable of keeping a "wind" of gasses contained in a column across 228,000 light years of distance where there is no theory using gravity that can account for such a collimated column’s existence.
The wind extends about 228,000 light-years away from the galaxy that surrounds the quasar. Previously, astronomers had seen signs of these winds only about 3,000 light-years from their galaxies.

The result, published November 12 at arXiv.org, could help resolve questions about how black holes can grow with their galaxies, or shut galaxies down for good.

Black holes are best known for gravitationally gobbling everything that veers too close. Paradoxical as it sounds, supermassive black holes can also send material in the opposite direction, driving powerful flows of charged gas and plasma away from their host galaxies.

These black holes are victims of their own success, pulling in more material than they can consume at once. The excess material surrounds black holes in a tight swirling disk, where friction heats it to hundreds of millions of degrees Celsius. The black hole plus that bright disk is a quasar. (Quasars do not exist as theorized by orthodox cosmologists in the Electric/Plasma Universe Cosmology — Swordmaker)

All that heat, plus some help from magnetic fields (Some help? Plasma is by definition a fourth state of matter that require it have an electrical charge, and electricity by its nature flows, and a flow of electrons by its nature creates magnetic fields which contain the plasma, and create heat!— Swordmaker), create great gusts that carry gas and plasma away (SN Online: 3/6/17).
These winds have been observed for years in interstellar and intergalactic objects called Herbig-Haro Ogjects. They are numerous. . . but none of them can be explained by using a gravity driven cosmology explanation or one which accepts Black Holes, Neutron Stars, or Quasars, but one which can explain all of those, and demonstrate the in the microcosm in the high voltage plasma laboratory in the —Electric Universe Cosmology — PING!


Herbig-Haro 212
seen in Hubble Telescope View
ELECTRIC UNIVERSE PING!

If you want on or off the Electric Universe Ping List, Freepmail me.

17 posted on 12/05/2018 9:22:40 AM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot)
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To: ETL

Reflux.


18 posted on 12/05/2018 9:46:18 AM PST by Doctor DNA (This is not your grandfather's internet.)
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To: Swordmaker

Great rebuttal, Swordy. Thanks for the ping.


19 posted on 12/05/2018 11:47:56 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: SunkenCiv

*ping*


20 posted on 12/05/2018 11:49:37 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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