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Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]
May 05th,2008

Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny

Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training

I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood


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To: upcountry miss

YUM...

Desert was great!

Typical Cal, I didn’t follow the recipe...

I mixed up the biscuit ingredients and used a quart of my apple pie filling that I had canned, threw in a handful of my home dried raisins. Added just enough milk to get the mixture about right and baked at 375 for about 35 minutes.

For the caramel topping, I never buy brown sugar - I add back the blackstrap molasses that they remove in the refining process - instant brown sugar. I added a bit of butter and the milk, brought it to a boil that I could just barely stir down and then removed from the stove. Then added a bit of vanilla and poured it on top, then used a fork and poked a bunch of holes so it would also be absorbed...

Well, it was a hit - we ate half the whole batch, and my wife announced that she was eating her share of the remaining at breakfast daughter said ‘Me too!’

So, I would call that a resounding success... Thanks to you and Granny!


2,241 posted on 02/21/2009 4:38:48 PM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: DelaWhere

She would peek around the trunk as though her whole back end was hidden.<<<

LOL.

If her eyes were not seeing you, then she thought that you could not see her......funny.

When my daughter was 18 months old, the jobs were in Oxnard, California and the only apartment that I could find, was a beautiful studio apartment, a widow owned it and it was in the middle of the strawberry fields, near the airport.

She didn’t want to rent to me, as she had an old stud/racehorse there in a coral/barn setup and she was afraid the horse would hurt the baby.

Debra was an escape artist and would sneak out, from the time she could walk, even taking a walk in downtown San Diego once.....

There came a day when I missed Debra, and set out to find her, we had made friends with a family that also lived there and they had not seen her, then I found her.

She was at the coral, pulling the grass that grew outside the fence and feeding the stud.

I swear her entire arm was disappearing in that horses mouth and she had slobber and chewed grass all over her.

I came running, just plain terrified and she turns with the arm in his mouth and informs me it is a ‘Goggie’, her word for a dog.

How that horse missed hurting her is amazing, almost 60 years later and I can still see it.


2,242 posted on 02/21/2009 4:39:38 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Oops, sorry granny.


2,243 posted on 02/21/2009 4:41:53 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: DelaWhere

So, I would call that a resounding success... Thanks to you and Granny!<<<

What a wonderful team we are......

Wonderful sounding dish.


2,244 posted on 02/21/2009 4:42:13 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall

Not a problem, if I had read further, I would have known you had your answer.


2,245 posted on 02/21/2009 4:43:35 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

That makes sense. So, then we get a vacuum. Food storage and physics (or is it chemistry?) - who would’ve known?


2,246 posted on 02/21/2009 4:44:13 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: upcountry miss

>>>>invention of the old butcher-farmer-jack of all trades<<<<

This is what ticked me off about 0bama’s Executive Order I posted earlier. I have seen way more innovation and ideas brought to fruition in farm workshops than all the universities put together. I even worked on developing a few and offered suggestions on quite a few others.

Many of those ideas wound up having their credit claimed by Universities and patents taken out by the schools - when the original idea and prototype came from a garage or workshop and someones intuition. But they never seem to be credited and the patent process has been manipulated to favor the big corporate/university establishment...

Sorry, that is one of my pet peeves.


2,247 posted on 02/21/2009 5:05:01 PM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: All

http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2009/02/21/Arrests_made_over_Indias_Hep_B_outbreak/UPI-28951235253312/

Arrests made over India’s Hep. B outbreak
Published: Feb. 21, 2009 at 4:55 PM

NEW DELHI, Feb. 21 (UPI) — Authorities in India are targeting stores selling bogus drugs and used syringes after a hepatitis B outbreak left 32 people dead, officials said Saturday.

continues.......

http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2009/02/21/Rare_fungus_migrates_from_Canada/UPI-49121235239620/

Rare fungus migrates from Canada
Published: Feb. 21, 2009 at 1:07 PM
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PORTLAND, Ore., Feb. 21 (UPI) — Health experts say a rare fungal disease that can be fatal to people has migrated from the Canadian woods to forests in Oregon and Washington.

Cryptococcus gattii has killed 19 people in Canada since 1999 and a total of five people in Oregon and Washington since 2004, The Oregonian reported Saturday.

continued....


2,248 posted on 02/21/2009 5:16:56 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: upcountry miss

>>>>Desert was great!<<<<<

LOL guess I got in a hurry - make that Desert = Dessert.

Really, I know the difference... Sorry!


2,249 posted on 02/21/2009 6:54:53 PM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: CottonBall

>>>Food storage and physics (or is it chemistry?<<<

LOL All of the above plus a bit of biology, bacteriology, virology, mycology, and a whole bunch of more -ologies too I am sure.


2,250 posted on 02/21/2009 7:04:09 PM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

With the renewed attacks on gun owners, as in the 1990’s many are asking how a gun can be stored long term... And still have it work...

http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/wood115.html

Answers the question:

Bury a gun and ammo for 15 years
(and be assured everything still works when you dig it up)


2,251 posted on 02/21/2009 7:16:18 PM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Gourmet Nutrition
with Rice and Beans

http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/blunt115.html

Eating well

When my friend, Dave Duffy, the publisher of this magazine, asked me to write about cooking with rice and beans from a survival larder, the first thing that occurred to me was, “Just because times are hard doesn’t mean you can’t eat well.” In that spirit, the recipes I’ve included here are meant to make hard times easier and inexpensive meals taste like dishes set before a king. Richard Blunt


2,252 posted on 02/21/2009 7:23:38 PM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: texas_mrs

Ping


2,253 posted on 02/21/2009 7:35:14 PM PST by texas_mrs
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To: DelaWhere

Thread #1 had a lot of dried soup and other make-a-mix recipes that would be handy for you to have made up.


2,254 posted on 02/21/2009 7:36:28 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

There sure are - and Thank You for archiving those for us all.

For anyone wanting to have the previous 10,000 posts with a wealth of information, you can download them in two parts at:

https://rcpt.yousendit.com/652475458/be891b8a5d0f78189f7ca1bfce72f8ef

http://rcpt.yousendit.com/652465988/46614d3e7eb1fcc5b4aa4291287b2e93


2,255 posted on 02/21/2009 7:54:12 PM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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2,256 posted on 02/21/2009 7:58:28 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: DelaWhere; upcountry miss

The problem with heart disease is NOT cholesterol.

The problem is Omega 6 oil, or good old vegetable oil. Cooking oil is a relatively new product. Oil (except olive oil) is an unstable compound that breaks down quickly (turns rancid). That’s because the molecules lose electrons over time. But cooking oil has had its electrons stripped off in the manufacturing process, making it more stable.

The problem is that your body does not know what to do with this artificial product. It breaks down poorly and scars your arteries.

Guess what you need in abundance to fix scarred arteries? Vitamin C.

If you don’t get enough Vitamin C (from natural sources like raw tomatoes, green peppers, oranges, etc.), the microphages on the artery walls grab cholesterol (which your body makes when it needs it!) and plasters the scarred walls with it. Better a patch job than scarred arteries that can’t expand or contract and may break and leak.

The solution is to balance omega 3 and omega 6 about 1:1. Right now most Americans, as a result of eating fried foods in excess, are about 1:26. They take a fish oil pill each day and think that will balance out the french fries and KFC. Use fish oil or flaxseed oil on salad and other raw applications. Do NOT cook flaxseed oil!

If you have problems with high levels of LDL, you can get red yeast rice to help bring it down. Better yet, switch to a vegetarian diet and when you want to saute something, use coconut oil. It’s naturally hydrogenated and your body can digest it quite well.

God made our bodies to work right with the foods He put on the earth. He created everything we need to heal our diseases.

I’ve been meaning to research this more, so if you want to have additional information, ping me back and I’ll post some links to articles about this. The topic of cholesterol makes me crazy the way it’s been communicated - full of misinformation!


2,257 posted on 02/21/2009 8:01:09 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
I believe the udder or breast or teat is composed of mammary glands which branch out like roots of a tree.


2,258 posted on 02/21/2009 8:25:48 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

I believe the udder or breast or teat is composed of mammary glands which branch out like roots of a tree. <<<

The inside of the udder looked like a brain does, whirls of tissue, I did not dissect it to see how the individual teats were.

What I don’t know, is “how is milk made and where?

Is it made in the udder? Or only stored there?

I know if you do not milk on time, they start to absorb it back into their systems.

If you quit milking them, they will stop producing milk.

They will also get sore and ache, if they were a heavy producer.


2,259 posted on 02/21/2009 8:54:49 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I am glad you stopped to read the thread.

Join in if you would like.


2,260 posted on 02/21/2009 8:55:34 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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