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Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]
May 05th,2008

Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny

Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training

I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood


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To: nw_arizona_granny

That website had great recipes. I can dream, WFM had sea bass for $15.00/lb.

SEA BASS, PAN SEARED CHILEAN SEA BASS

Makes 4 servings.

Pan-Seared Chilean Sea Bass With Summerwhite Peach Salsa

Ingredients
• 2 cups (1 lb) fresh, ripe Summerwhite California peaches, pitted and sliced
• ¼ cup minced scallions
• ½ cup cilantro, chopped
• jalapeno chilis, seeded, deveined and minced (to taste)
• superfine sugar (to taste)
• salt and pepper (to taste)
• ¼ cup fresh lime juice
• ½ t five-spice powder
• 2 Tbsp. safflower oil
• 4 (1½ lbs) Chilean sea bass steaks, 6 oz each, skinned and boned
• cilantro sprigs (for garnish)
• lime wedges (for garnish)

SALSA: Combine diced peaches, scallions, cilantro, chilis, sugar, salt and pepper in a small bowl. Mix well. Set aside for at least one hour at room temperature or overnight in the refrigerator. Mix in lime juice before serving.

FISH: Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Mix five-spice powder with oil and brush onto both sides of steaks. Heat large sautè pan over high heat until it begins to smoke. Sear sea bass until golden brown on both sides. Finish cooking to desired doneness in the oven.


1,981 posted on 02/19/2009 4:28:41 PM PST by WestCoastGal (If he wants to come by the bus after the race and get his a$$ whooped, I'll do it. - Dale Jr)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

How cute!

BTW, what were your goats doing in the previous picture? Is that a normal goat thing?


1,982 posted on 02/19/2009 4:29:19 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: Wneighbor

the way I like my greens is to wash ‘em good. Takes several washings sometimes. <<<

If you add about a tablespoon of salt to the gallon of water, the bugs and dirt will come off your greens and float to the top.


1,983 posted on 02/19/2009 4:29:31 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall

Hi CB, I’m so glad the stuff was useful. They were probably linked off the original survival thread.

You might find more interesting/valuable books and pamphlets here:

http://www.scribd.com/search?cx=007890693382555206581:7fgc6et2hmk&cof=FORID:11&ie=UTF-8&c=all&q=food+storage&sa=Search

Scribd is a great website. All the documents can be downloaded in pdf format.

Have fun!


1,984 posted on 02/19/2009 4:31:17 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: Wneighbor
We haven’t got the amount of people figured out, we are just targeting those we see who we know will work and contribute.

I think I need to move. We're doing the same thing - but considering we are surrounded by libs, all they'll be good for is whining and bossing us around to do all the work. Trouble is, the conservative types are probably the quiet ones that respect others and don't let us know the first minute we need them that they ARE conservative. I just had a good friend of 3 years finally figure out we were and vice versa!
1,985 posted on 02/19/2009 4:33:12 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall; nw_arizona_granny

Hey CB, you give me too much credit! I “borrowed” the picture off of this site:

http://icanhascheezburger.com/

I just searched for “goat” and found that picture. There were more but they had been featured on the original survival thread.

ICHC is a real timesink, so beware.


1,986 posted on 02/19/2009 4:33:17 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: CottonBall; nw_arizona_granny
BTW, what were your goats doing in the previous picture? Is that a normal goat thing?

I wondered that too. Granny, do you know?

1,987 posted on 02/19/2009 4:34:33 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

OMG - I can spend the rest of eternity on that site! There’s so much info there. A good place to go during morning coffee (after checking this thread, of course!)


1,988 posted on 02/19/2009 4:37:14 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: WestCoastGal

You must have missed the “raise fish in a barrel” article that I posted last week.

I know you could raise Carp in a barrel...

Being mean, to suggest Carp, when you are hungry for Salmon and Sea Bass.

Yes, I enjoyed the cute animal photos too.


1,989 posted on 02/19/2009 4:37:59 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Oh, sorry - I thought they were your goats. My husband has always loved goats and wanted some. So, I imagine if/when we move to a safe rural place, perhaps we can get some (provided they are self-supporting in some way, like providing milk...)


1,990 posted on 02/19/2009 4:38:18 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: nw_arizona_granny

LOL Hot Rod Granny...

Yeah, I could soup it up and power it, but I really want to be able to enjoy the peace and quiet in the garden. Since I used to put one knee on my old American Flyer and push with the other leg, I think I should be able to put both heels into the dirt and give a little push. Just need to move it a foot or two at a time as I pick. Once it is full, I could pull it.


1,991 posted on 02/19/2009 4:38:54 PM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: CottonBall

Yes I would love to have some goats here, if the park owner would let us have them. He’d have a lot less grass to mow, that’s for sure.


1,992 posted on 02/19/2009 4:40:04 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Yes, she was too cute to be Bill, and the Zebra looked so very powerful.

Donkey mothers are very protective.

I planted several hundred feet of trees and fruiting shrubs on the hill side, got them in late one night.

Looked out the window the next morning and there was a herd of wild donkeys, the mothers on each end of the row, while the tiny babies ate their way down the rows....

The Mothers were on guard.


1,993 posted on 02/19/2009 4:41:32 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

What kind of park do you live in/near?


1,994 posted on 02/19/2009 4:43:54 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Whey powder, for example from Sam’s Club , costs about $30 for 5 lbs. It is nearly all protein, and that of very high quality. You most assuredly can mix it into oat bars, cereals, drinks, or most anything. I mix it into my muesli , the wonders of which I have extolled on another thread.
1,995 posted on 02/19/2009 4:44:27 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Looked out the window the next morning and there was a herd of wild donkeys, the mothers on each end of the row, while the tiny babies ate their way down the rows....

Oh wow, did they wreck the trees? Did you chase them away or let the dogs out?

1,996 posted on 02/19/2009 4:45:17 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

How frustrating! (But conversely, cute. I love how mothers in the animal kingdom are so good.)


1,997 posted on 02/19/2009 4:46:05 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: Wneighbor

Must be about supper time out there...
Yep, just like clockwork, Wneighbor tempts me with food about this time - Since it is 7:30 here, I have already eaten once and you make me hungry enough to eat something again.

When I came back from Texas, I went into the grocery store and they did not have any of those good pork steaks - asked the butcher for them and he gave me a blank look and said ‘you want what?’ Well, I now have another store that does carry them - I think the manager is a a good ole Southern Boy... They even make sure they have black-eyed peas for New Years... LOL

Oh, definitely some good cornbread!!!


1,998 posted on 02/19/2009 4:47:08 PM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion; CottonBall

BTW, what were your goats doing in the previous picture? Is that a normal goat thing?<<<

My first thought was that they were laying in the shade of the building and the sun moved.

Or if they are kids pets, the kids may be in the barn and calling to them, teasing them.

Or they felt like taking a break.

They look like male goats to me, but then I have had prize milkers that had longer horns and were to my eye uglier.

And they were full blooded Nubian too boot.

The one looks like it is ready to kid, but it could also show that it got in the fresh hay.

Goats are a follow the leader, type of animal.


1,999 posted on 02/19/2009 4:50:35 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall
Here are some pictures. It's a mobile home park, but it's very pretty. Sorry if I'm boasting, but I just love it:

More here: pictures of our house in the foothills and the surrounding area

2,000 posted on 02/19/2009 4:51:37 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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