Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny
Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? Its an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training
Ive been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe thats why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood
I just found out that Winco has some in their bulk section for $.87 a pound. I could do that as well. They may have been there a while...<<<
That is the real problem, how long were they in the warehouse.
But for only a couple pounds, Winco would be the best buy.
The store employees will not know how old they are.
Wheat berries keep well, but take them and seal them in jars or even your coffee cans, [now plastic] or a good pail with a tight lid, the bag is not the best way to store any grain for a long time.
I also like the rolled oats and brown sugar from Walton’s, LOL, I have never gotten anything from them that I didn’t like.
I buy from them in large orders, so the pounds will throw me into a lower shipping weight cost, they have a chart.
For me, it was cheaper to order my everyday needs from Walton and pay UPS shipping then it is to shop in Kingman supermarkets and now I am finding that the Kingman food does not store, flour is useless in 3 months from Kingman.
When I use the coffee containers for storage, I lay a plastic sandwich bag across the top and add the lid, seals it tighter.
If one is storing grains, then add a couple Bay leaves to keep the bugs out.
This is a video on Reuters
www.reuters.com...
You could also try looking on some of the sites included in this link
bailiwick.lib.uiowa.edu...
I also like to use
www.journalismnet.com...
From your link Quix.
It is a shame that Sorcha started the story, it clouds it up.
The above is at the end, it appears that Russia has sunk a ship.
That will not serve the cause of ‘peace’ very well.
You are right, moms of all types have the same issues.
A lot of silliness that has gone on about not spanking your kids when they are naughty... watch a mother dog and how she chastises her puppies - she nips them when they do something she doesn’t like.
Seat would be clamp on boat swivel seat.
Now to do some height and reach measurements...
Should be handy to be able to put plants - trays - picked produce on the cart and be able to reach the ground without having to bend down... Hmmmmm Anybody have any thoughts??
http://sanfrancisco.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/2009/sf021909.htm
United States Attorney Joseph P. Russoniello
Northern District of California
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT: JACK GILLUND
February 19, 2009
(415) 436-6599
WWW.USDOJ.GOV/USAO/CAN Jack.Gillund@usdoj.gov
UNITED STATES JOINS SUITS AGAINST SCIOS AND JOHNSON & JOHNSON
Pharmaceutical Companies Allegedly Marketed the Drug Natrecor for a Use Not Approved by the Food and Drug Administration
WASHINGTONThe United States has intervened in two whistleblower suits filed in the Northern District of California against the drug manufacturer Scios Inc. and its parent company, Johnson & Johnson Inc., alleging that the companies marketed the cardiac drug Natrecor for a use not approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and caused false and fraudulent claims to be submitted to the federal health care programs, the Justice Department announced today. Such an unapproved use is also known as an off-label use because it is not included in the drugs FDA approved product label.
Under the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, a company must specify the intended uses of a product in its new drug application to the FDA. Before approving a drug, the FDA must determine that the drug is safe and effective for the use proposed by the company. Once approved, the drug company may not market or promote the drug for off-label uses.
In August 2001, the FDA approved Natrecor for the intravenous treatment of patients with acutely decompensated congestive heart failure who have dyspnea [shortness of breath] at rest or with minimal activity. The study upon which this approval was based involved hospitalized patients who had severe heart failure and who received infusions of Natrecor over an average 36-hour period. The governments investigation revealed that shortly after receiving this approval in 2001, Scios began an aggressive campaign to market Natrecor for scheduled, serial outpatient infusions for patients with less severe heart failurea use not included in the FDA-approved label. These patients were prescribed Natrecor infusions for less than six hours on a scheduled basis over an extended period of time.
Medicare does not cover drugs used for off-label uses unless such off-label use is established to be medically necessary. The federal health care programsin particular, Medicarepaid substantial amounts for the serial outpatient off-label use of Natrecor.
In mid-2005, a panel of leading cardiologists told Scios that it should stop promoting the scheduled, serial outpatient use of Natrecor. Scios subsequently sent a letter to healthcare providers in which it acknowledged that there was insufficient clinical evidence supporting the safety and efficacy for scheduled, serial outpatient use of the drug. In 2007, Scios released the results of a clinical study that showed no significant benefits of serial outpatient Natrecor infusions.
The two separate civil False Claims Act suitscalled qui tam actionswere filed by former Scios sales managers against Scios and Johnson & Johnson in the Northern District of California. The False Claims Act allows for private persons to file whistleblower suits to provide the government information about wrongdoing. Under the statute, if it is established that a person has submitted or caused others to submit false or fraudulent claims to the United States, the government can recover treble damages and $5,500 to $11,000 for each false or fraudulent claim filed. If the government is successful in resolving or litigating its claims, the whistleblower who initiated the action can receive a share of between 15 percent and 25 percent of the amount recovered.
The qui tam or whistleblower actions contain additional allegations. However, the United States is only intervening with regard to allegations that Scios marketed the drug Natrecor for serial infusions in the outpatient setting.
The investigation was conducted by the Civil Division of the U.S. Department of Justice, the U.S. Attorneys Office for the Northern District of California, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Offices of Inspector General of the Department of Health and Human Services, the FDA, the Department of Veterans Affairs, the Office of Personnel Management, and the Department of Defense.
Good luck. Let me know how it works. Knee replacement stops me from kneeling. Tried one of those low scooter like gadgets that some gardening catalogs sell. The position once I got on them was too awkward to stay on long. I just bend over til my back is breaking, then retire to my lawn chair under a peach tree, read the newspaper, have a cold drink and back to bending over again. I find if I bend over, support myself partially with one arm on a knee and work with free arm, it takes a little pressure off from my back. I just love the work so don’t let the pain get me down. Beats housework any day. Just despise housework and cooking.
Hmmmmm Anybody have any thoughts?? <<<
? How nasty will your wife get, when she discovers she is the
“Horse Power”, needed to pull you down the row????
I hope you don’t need too many stitches!!!
A lot of silliness that has gone on about not spanking your kids when they are naughty... <<<
That is why on the San Diego Police Scanner, I heard the Police dispatched to 7 and 8 year old kids, that were out of control.
Time out never worked for me, they thought it was game time and I did not have an empty closet to put them in.
LOL Nope - propelled with leg push and a bit of steering.
Could hitch a goat to it but would have to muzzle her or there would be nothing left of the garden.
Two more good photos.
Bill would look like the baby, he had that receding hairline, that leaves an island in the middle, big blue eyes and the longest eye lashes.
Thanks for the smile.
That is some care package.
When I was married before to a Navy man, I had a siamese kitten that would only sleep in his regulation, white, round Navy hat.
No matter where he put it, the cat would find it.
There is nothing inexpensive about protein bars. Protein bars consist of whey, it is a lot cheaper to get the protein in the form of whey powder.
Hmmm... well, the way I like my greens is to wash 'em good. Takes several washings sometimes. Then I put them in a pan with salt pork, ham or bacon. If I don't have meat I use about a half a stick of butter. Cook 'em on low heat so they'll steam in their own juices, add salt and pepper to taste and a little lemon juice or cider vinegar.
Oh, an if I'm using turnip greens plain or in a mix with other greens I dice up a turnip in there to cook with the greens. Add a little more vinegar when there's a turnip or two in the pot. and maybe some extra butter. MMMmmmm...
I think that you had better look into a gas motor, as was on the old gas engine wringer washer, or a motor scooter engine for your wagon.
You will soon throw a hip out and cause even more pain pushing it with a leg.
Try Free Cycle for a wrecked scooter, should have all you need.
I suspect this idea, will be like some of mine, excellent on paper and not so good on the ground.
thank you granny for the ping.
The pics are all so cute!
I’m wishing I had a nice piece of grilled salmon for dinner.
It’s hard to find good fish here. :(
I love the pdfs you’ve included on food storage. The use-it-or-lose-it one is especially useful - the recipes for using wheat and beans is something I’m sure I’ll need for some variety.
Are those from an LDS source? They’re the food storage experts, IMO. And very willing to help.
I’ve bought some great pre-packed items from stores in Utah (so I’m assuming they are LDS-related and know what they’re talking about.) I know I don’t know what I’m doing (yet), so the pre-packed superpails give me peace of mind that in 10 years, they’ll still be ok to use. Assuming it takes the drastic economic situation that long to occur.
And the gardening without irrigation, though hard to read, will also be helpful. We have a cabin with a pretty wet meadow while the rest of the lot is rather dry. I’ve been wondering how to redistribute the water without having to get water from the community well.
Aren’t they cute? Especially the donkey mom. Such a sweet face.
We don’t have a large stash of ammo. Guess we are more what you are saying. We have a lot, but not with the focus of starting a war. For hunting and protecting our own. Safety in numbers includes having enough like-minded people with us to make it not look like good odds to mess with us. We haven’t got the amount of people figured out, we are just targeting those we see who we know will work and contribute. However, we do have ammo and will probably get more supplies for reloading. Nothing should be left to chance.
cornbread and butter. don't forget that cornbread and butter with your greens and sides.
Protein bars consist of whey, it is a lot cheaper to get the protein in the form of whey powder.<<<
I was not aware of that.
Could one add the whey powder to any of the oatmeal based bars that have been posted, for the same benefit?
I always saved my whey, when I made cheese and used it in gravy, and breads.
Welcome to the thread, glad you came to read it.
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