Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.
The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.
Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.
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What the whole world is missing here is that McCain was born in the Republic of Panama and NOT the Canal Zone, U.S. territory.
Since Fred was my guy way back, I’ve not found anyone better!
Preponderance of evidence? Such as?
The FACT that the form is different than other known good copies of the same data and revision number?
The FACT that the border on the alleged BC IS ON A DIFFERENT LAYER in the posted document's image file?
The FACT that a host of artifacts in the posted "blank document" exactly match the alleged BHO BC?
The FACT that document has different text in the form than known good documents?
The FACT that the time and location of birth just happen to be EXACTLY the same as on the posted 'fill in the blanks and make your own' "blank document".
What koolaid drinker are you trusting for the Gospel Truth here?
Trust me on this one, when someone asks you to ignore the evidence of your own eyes, they are up to no good.
So- here’ the deal.
They’re both disqualified, let them run Mike Gavel and we’ll run Fred :)
Marry me.
>>>I will give him a special price: $1,999,999.98
Don’t undersell yourself!
:)
What gets me is the psychology of the analysts. You have AJ demanding homage for all what he is that we can not be. For example almost nobody can work on Commodore 64's anymore. They are pretty rare. And not everybody works at NASA, and on satellites and such. AJ tells us how great he is by telling us how impossible it would for us to be him, and approach his PhD-devouring ferocity. He makes himself big by making everybody else small.
And I can understand, maybe, why the Colossi of the Spheres Blogal, like LGF, like all the others who signed onto AJ's bold "analysis", and used it as a club to bang the rest of us on forums like FR, or on smaller blogs into the party line. Why? Because they want to be BIG too, and are not philosophically disinclined to make others small in so doing. Which of those blogs have self-search features, like FR has? Why not? Isn't the voice of others as important as their own?
FR is great that way -- FR's strength is in how accessible it is to those who have to do no more than remain somewhat civil.
And compare that you-small-ME-BIG attitude to Pam Geller's Atlas Shrugged blog's master tech, techdude, himself. Techdude begs us all, or at least some of us to become like him. Bit by the bug of computer forensics, he would be happy to have many be like himself. "Join the analysis yourself" -- he recommends, and promises to show us how.
Refreshing.
Hey, Calpernia, good to hear from you.
I am opened for suggestions. What do suggest? He has a very rich wife. : )
At the time, I thought I bided too low. (I do not consider myself a money grabbing person. )
(LOL!!!)
Waiting for an answer. : )
LOL!
I’m not sure I’d do it again either- but never say never.
“The FACT that the form is different than other known good copies of the same data and revision number?”
Debunked. A similar form was posted by a freeper on this thread.
“The FACT that the border on the alleged BC IS ON A DIFFERENT LAYER in the posted document’s image file? “
Fact or claim? AJ Strata didnt acknowledge that.
“The FACT that a host of artifacts in the posted “blank document” exactly match the alleged BHO BC?”
Because we now know that the blank doc was derived from it, as OpenDNA assserted in the first place as AJ Strata analysis confirmed. That debunks one claim the ‘its a forgery crowd’ was making.
“The FACT that document has different text in the form than known good documents?” Not all forms are exactly the same is all. As noted above, a freeper posted a BC that had the exact same form as Obama’s, showing that it was valid in its form relative to other legit BCs.
“The FACT that the time and location of birth just happen to be EXACTLY the same as on the posted ‘fill in the blanks and make your own’ “blank document”.”
Duh, because the ‘fill in the blanks’ form was derived from it. That’s been the BIG LIE of the “Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery” from the get go - the blogger admitted no such thing! He admitted taking the Kos image and playing with it, and some people just got the order derivation wrong.
“What koolaid drinker are you trusting for the Gospel Truth here?”
This was a KOS setup from the get-go and the conspiracy-minded fell for it hook-line-sinker. It was and is a distraction from the real issues with Obama.
Obama was born in Hawaii, and I stand by this statement: The BC on Obama’s website might well be legitimate, in fact the preponderance of evidence points in that direction.
“. Again — I’m no expert!”
That part I can agree it. No, its impossible to have more resolution than the pixel count provides, I speak as someone knowledgable in Computer Science, that’s just a fundamental of how digital images work. You should trust AJ Strata more than your own judgement on that point.
At most, you can argue that with sufficient pixel resolution, you can detect method of printing due to how the printing resolves on the image, but thats about it.
“What else would an Obama spokesman say....? There’s no additional proof from him either.”
You are raising questions that he should answer is the point.
Raising questions and then filling in the blanks with the conspiracy-theory-du-jour is just ... nutty. It’s spinning your wheels.
Excellent post!
Be smart. Demand your own fully functional oil field! Then you will have the world at your mercer :))
;)
Reason I think the “wedding picture” is probably taken proximate in time to the marriage is because she is so young. I see my son’s girl friends in this age group (20-22)regularly; you might convince me she was 20 here but she isn’t much more than that. Pregnant? Who knows—maybe just a Honolulu dress a couple years later. But it isn’t very long after; under the circumstances, I am on the bet Obama’s representation is probably correct.
“(2) That the cert reads “Filed on” instead of “accepted on.””
This claimed ‘proof of forgery’ was debunked 1500 posts ago:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2040486/posts?page=1440#1440
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1. A regular Certification of Birth says “Date Accepted By State Registrar” vs. Obama’s “Date Filed By Registrar”;
This is simply not true. I was born in Hawaii have a Hawaii “Certification of Live Birth” right before my very eyes and my copy says clear as day “DATE FILED BY REGISTRAR”.
In fact, the BC put up by Dolores or Doris whoever that people are gobbling up looks funny to me, not Obama’s. That’s not to say Dolores (who is this person anyway, and why is she deemed credible?) has offered up a fake, but rather a version that looks significantly different than mine—and Obama’s.
I am watching this whole thing unravel like a train wreck in slow motion. And I pray to God I am wrong, but from the beginning, this has felt like the Obama camp taking a page out of the Rovian rope-a-dope playbook.
While I’m at it, I’m pinging a couple of FReepers (the minority on this thread) who seem to share the same concern.
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We’ve seen it. That’s what we’re doing...trying to push back with the truth. And we’ll keep pushing until we get straight answers.
The psychology of the analysts is irrelevent. The issue is - are they right? where’s the beef?
“Reason I think the “wedding picture” is probably taken proximate in time to the marriage is because she is so young.”
She was young in 1971, only 28 or so.
She looks similar in the 1971 pic with Barack to the pictures with Lolo and the picture at the time.
It’s barack Jr in the other picture with Barack Sr and those pictures were taken at the same time, 1971.
” It seems to me that it is almost beyond any doubt that the Obama birth certificate is a forgery.”
- The form matches real BC forms. See KJC1’s comments on this thread.
- Several people have analyzed it and judge the image is not doctored.
- The BC confirms consistently with the place of birth and date of birth that Barack obama has given all along
“(1) That the cert # is blacked out.”
#1 proves nothing as there were ‘innocent’ reasons for Obama campaign to do that,
“(2) That the cert reads “Filed on” instead of “accepted on.” “
Wrong debunked via KJC1 comments.
“(3) The very stonewalling itself is an evidence “
#3 is supposition/perception. Obama has been forthcoming and posted the BC. They are not stonewalling from most people’s perspective, as most are satisfied on the point.
If that’s all you got as evidence of forgery you really have no evidence of forgery at all.
“The way the 1st amendment woks, as I understand, is that once a witness starts talking about a subject he just can’t tell a part of the story, he has to tell the whole story, the whole truth.” - The way the 1st A works is you get to express your views. Period.
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