Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.
The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.
Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.
(Excerpt) Read more at web.israelinsider.com ...
The individual captioning the picture might.
And we’ve already demonstrated that not only are the captions less than accurate, but people are quite capable of reading the surrounding text as a caption.
That’s how the so-called “wedding picture” got it’s name.
They still refuse to disclose that. Again, no one would accept any CoLB with the C.N. entirely blacked out, so why should we...?
Atlas Tech Expert Declares Obama Birth Certificate ForgeryThe first analysis is presented July 4th. Follow the comments. In the morning of July 5th AJStrata posts to them the following complaint and threat:
I did the same analysis and found the same things - came to completely opposite conclusion. For one thing, you are comparing two different certificate patterns.To which TechDude replies, in the evening of July 5th [here extracted, condensed, highlighted, and annotated by me, bvw]:The seal and signature block area are there, as you and I and others have detected. And the date the certificate was produced (Jun 2007) as well.
Clearly the person who stamped and signed the back did not use the same pressure as the date stamp, but they are all there. What you need is another original certificate of the same format, as this guy does with the same uneven corners.
At least someone confirmed my find that the Opendna documents are modifications to the Obama certificate because of two tell tale laser printer dots (see here). Sadly, this only proves Opendna printed out the document and rescanned it at a higher resolution so that photoshop could do its work better.
It does not prove the certificate is a fake. If you want to prove it is a fake ask the state of Hawaii! Ask Obama to show the certificate he has to Hawaii! This is so much wasted energy - and it makes the conservatives look foolish.
You better have more than this to make a claim of forgery.
Regards, AJStrata.
A response to [AJStrata] who said “For one thing, you are comparing two different certificate patterns.”Some people! That phrase, I suspect, is used by techdude to refer to AJStrata. But not just AJ, say I. It includes all those masters of the conservative blogs who signed onto the finality of AJStrata's cranky analysis.Well of course, that was the point of my analysis which seems to have been lost on a few individuals. Both certificates are printed with the OHSM 1.1 (Rev. 11/01) LASER identifier with the revision dates being identical [11/01]. If there was a new or modified certificate security pattern introduced there would also be a different revision date indicating that it had been revised after November 2001. Some people are apparently under the mistaken impression that the security border printing will just change once and a while or perhaps some folks may just never really understand the issue.
[Now some very technical stuff about image analysis as follows] then I performed an error level analysis on the KOS Obama and Decosta certificate images. Doing the error level analysis using several known error rates revealed some immediate disparities in the KOS image such as the border floating as a “layer” on top of the background. Further the border appears to consist of several distinct parts and individual sections which were pasted together. The compression and error ratio of the security border simply does not match the rest of the certificate. The same can be seen with the text. However the same analysis of the Decosta image using the same exact methodology instead verified the compression and error levels are consistent with equal distribution throughout the document.
The bottom line is that if the document was simply scanned into a computer and was not created on, or substantially modified by, a computer there would not be as many variations in the compression and error rates as can be seen in the KOS certificate. Taking the error level analysis into account along with my other findings (such as the obvious cut and paste marks, the glaring errors in the size and count of the security diamonds, and the lack of consistent header and footer start and end point) is how I arrived at my conclusion. None of this can simply be explained away or ignored by people claiming that this is a different un-recorded revision since no one has been able to produce another real certificate that matches the security engravings of the KOS version but there have been numerous reports and sightings of real certificates matching Decosta’s.
Occam's razor then forces this issue to a point – the simplest answer generally being the correct one – if there are multiple documents that appear to contain similar security engravings of the Decosta version but no others that resemble the KOS image - the KOS document is a forgery. It is with a high degree of scientific certainty that I must conclude that the KOS Obama image is a pretty bad counterfeit.
What is it? Like AJ since the 5th are they shamed into silence? Where is their alacrity now? Quick to join to his and strike down and ridicule the rest of us who looked at the issue and thought otherwise -- where is found one apology for such foolishness and unfounded ridicule? For just being, on the facts, wrong?
Is it that they are grown too big in their pants to fit modestly in them anymore?
“Does this help?”
Indeed.
The birth certificate states “place of birth,” “Colon, (Republic of) Panama,” and not Coco Solo, Canal Zone (U.S. territory).
My best regards, and thank you again.
Poor sentence structure doesn't explain how they watched the Watergate hearings every night on TV in 1972.
The legend is his father visited Hawaii when he was 10 (Christmas 1971). It doesn't make sense to refer to his father's visit as occuring "before my eleventh birthday". Either way, "the summer after my father's visit to Hawaii," would still be 1972 and "before my eleventh birthday" would also be 1972.
Occam’s razor ping to post # 2664, ¶16...
POP
Sitting in his seat, a seat broad and broken
In, sprinkled with ashes
Pop switches channels, takes another
Shot of Seagrams, neat, and asks
What to do with me, a green young man
Who fails to consider the
Flim and flam of the world, since
Things have been easy for me;
I stare hard at his face, a stare
That deflects off his brow;
I’m sure he’s unaware of his
Dark, watery eyes, that
Glance in different directions,
And his slow, unwelcome twitches,
Fail to pass.
I listen, nod,
Listen, open, till I cling to his pale,
Beige T-shirt, yelling,
Yelling in his ears, that hang
With heavy lobes, but he’s still telling
His joke, so I ask why
He’s so unhappy, to which he replies...
But I don’t care anymore, cause
He took too damn long, and from
Under my seat, I pull out the
Mirror I’ve been saving; I’m laughing,
Laughing loud, the blood rushing from his face
To mine, as he grows small,
A spot in my brain, something
That may be squeezed out, like a
Watermelon seed between
Two fingers.
Pop takes another shot, neat,
Points out the same amber
Stain on his shorts that I’ve got on mine, and
Makes me smell his smell, coming
From me; he switches channels, recites an old poem
He wrote before his mother died,
Stands, shouts, and asks
For a hug, as I shrink, my
Arms barely reaching around
His thick, oily neck, and his broad back; ’cause
I see my face, framed within
Pop’s black-framed glasses
And know he’s laughing too.
—Barack Obama’s poem published in the Spring 1981 issue of “Feast,” a student literary journal of Occidental College
Sorry, but the information at this post doesn't do it for me. When people say "documentation" I am thinking "Document".
I especially won't accept what Democrat congressman,Ambercrombie says.
I need a FILE number.
Yes! By the logic of those who are yelling “Look elsewhere, look elsewhere!” the movie ticket booth should accept xeroxed copies of a $20, and do so because they have much more important things to do than question my integrity!
David? Help me out here?
Psssst! To late. It has already leaked out. :-)
BLUSH! BLUSH! :-(
We as citizens, voters and taxpayers have a right to see that C.N.. This is a Constitutional requirement.
This whole thing smells. Why in the hell are they still hiding the maternal grandmother...??? Obama talks of his grandmother "somewhere out there in Hawaii". WTF...?? He doesn't even know where his own grandma lives....?? She is supposed to be kept in some "undisclosed location" like the Vice President....??
They keep parading the step-grandmother, Sarah Hussein, all around out there in Kenya. Why can't we see the grandmother who actually raised him...?? Maybe she knows certain things....?
Something's not right.
“And who is Abercrombie that we should uncritically accept anything he says?”
He sounded very close to Barack’s Mom, a personal friend.
“Abercrombie is described by Hawaii Reporter editor Malia Zimmerman as “D-Hezbollah” for his weakness on terror and anti-Israel record in Congress. Today he represents Honolulu in the US Congress and is a member of the Socialist-founded Congressional Progressive Caucus. “
Reds of a feather flock together!
I was thinking that perhaps the father visited just before Obama’s eleventh birthday, in other words in 1972. But you are right; the photos of them together in the airport clearly show Christmas trees.
So we have the place.
The one factor that truly dates the picture is front and center: It’s Barack at age 10 to 12.
From the Hawaii.gov website:
The new John Rodgers Terminal was dedicated August 22, 1962, during the annual conference of the Airport Operators Council, held in Honolulu August 19-25, 1962. Several members of the Legislature, as well as aviation officials, participated in the dedication program. Keynote speakers were Najeeb Halaby, Federal Aviation Administration, and W. A. Patterson, United Air Lines president.There would have been no Christmas decorations and no Christmas pictures in the old terminal after 1961.On the day of the dedication, Pan American World Airways delayed its Flight No. 843 from San Francisco for 50 minutes to preface the formal program with the first commercial jet arrival at the new Terminal.
All operations ceased at the old Terminal at midnight, October 14, 1962, and the first passengers from the new Terminal departed for Japan shortly after midnight the following day.
From the same website:
John Rodgers Airport was renamed Honolulu Airport on May 2, 1947. The airport was renamed Honolulu International Airport on April 27, 1951. A new jet age passenger terminal (John Rodgers Terminal) was constructed on the north ramp and dedicated on August 22, 1962. The south ramp where the airport was originally located became home to cargo, general aviation and aircraft maintenance activities. A new Commuter Terminal was dedicated on June 2, 1988. A new Interisland Terminal was dedicated on July 20, 1993.If both pictures are taken in the same terminal, the boy in the picture cannot be Barak as he would not have been 10 in 1962.
“Here’s the ultimate proof : an actual Certification Number that you can actually verify.”
So if the Obama camp reposted the birth cert. with the number revealed, you’d accept it as genuine?
IMHO, the only reason they are blocking it out is for reasons of ID theft avoidance.
I admit this thing is tricky, but we need concrete answers.
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