Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)

Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

[SE Mom]

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.

The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.

[awake-n-angry]

OK- long and short of it.

If anyone here is serious enough about this to do anything then this is what you do: GO down to the state election board in your state and challenge Obama’s name on the ballot. One might be abler to do this by a letter or call the election commission in your state to see how it is done. If any state or even county is willing to take Obama’s name on the ballot (after he wins the Dem nomination at the covention) you can bet it will make the press.

[Jet Jaguar]

Ping.

And thanks.

[EBH]

Agreed. That is indeed a powerful motivation.

Jomo Kenyatta was released and assumed presidency in Aug. 1961. Aug. 14, 1961. He had been elected in absentia.

While some here can't figure out why she would go to Kenya, remember what it would mean if he and her were indeed married. Obama Sr. is a ...muslim. If he returned to Kenya she would have been expected/required to accompany him. It wasn't 2008 where a young woman would have said, “No.” It was the 1960’s a time when kids were rebelling, leave it to beaver's mom was passe, etc.

Fantasy, conspiracy, over active imagination...? Motive.

[SE Mom]

That’s an interesting proposal.

Here’s another one, though it’s uncertain as to outcome:

http://mitchell-langbert.blogspot.com/2008/06/freedom-of-information-act-request-for.html

[valkyry1]

If this was about a Repub you know the MSM and all the talking heads would be on ‘all Birth Cert all the time’ /end master of obvious mode>

[SE Mom]

Further- as Beckwith stated last week after the Danielle Allen piece in the Washington Post- no one from Obama’s staff or circle has ever disputed what’s on his website.

[muawiyah]

Yup, a "W". I don't believe the folks who put their stock in "authorized nomenclature only" have that one on their list. Probably don't have "C", "B", "A", "ABC", "hapa" or any of the others on that list either.

Thanks for the info ~ getting a copy of the information "written" in the original record photocopied over to a new "certified document" for use with the outside world is definitel something to remember.

[par4]

Per Wiki: "In 1959, Qantas began the first jet service to Honolulu as a stop on its flights between Australia and California."

I'm not sure what you mean by "Jetport", but if the runways are long enough and able to support the aircraft weight then you could call it a jetport. Remember that there were no jetways back then, stairs were towed out to the aircraft and the passengers disembarked onto the tarmac. After all, Honolulu was a stopping off point for trans-pacific flights for a long time prior to the advent of jet service.

[muawiyah]

More or less like the F(lds) situation in Texas where babies are born, no birth certificates issued, and they get popped into graves without ever having achieved public notice.

That's still going on today, not just in 1961.

Now, regarding "submitted but not accepted" (or other statements to that effect), it's possible the specific document which is being referenced was "submitted" and then "re submitted" with some sort of correction or change required by whoever it was accepted records. That would then serve as the source of the "updated" information noticed on the second supposed official certificate.

I'm very happy to note that I have at least one more person besides myself who recognizes that the appelation "African" comes from the respondents, not from the government, and one does imagine Hawaii has always had multitudinous "list".

[valkyry1]

Well I dont think we can really say that until we know of how many of those jets came off the lines in that time and to which carriers they went to.

They may have concentrated on Europe at first.

[null and void]

Excellent!

I’ve been hoping an Hawaiian born FReeper would show up.

You’ve said your BC is different that the “gold standard” Dolores (or Doris) is funny, and different than yours.

You don’t quite say that the Obama one looks like your known good one.

Does it? In particular would you please use post #1,027 as a guide and compare them?

Thanks!

[Fred Nerks]

“... no one from Obama’s staff or circle has ever disputed what’s on his website.”

These are the statements made on the fightthesmears obama website, current as of now...

http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert

The truth about Barack’s birth certificate

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Lie:
Obama Is Not a Natural Born Citizen

Truth:
Senator Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, after it became a state on August 21st, 1959. Obama became a citizen at birth under the first section of the 14th Amendment

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

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Friend —

You may have recently heard right-wing smears questioning Barack Obama’s birth certificate and citizenship.

These assertions are completely false and designed to play into the worst kind of stereotypes.

You can see Barack Obama’s birth certificate for yourself and help push back with the truth at:

http://my.barackobama.com/fightthesmears

Together we can make sure these negative and divisive attacks don’t affect this campaign.

Thanks for your help.

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Problem: The document shown on the website isn’t a birth certificate! Just what the document is, is still being debated. We would like to see the birth certificate obama said in his book that he found when he was 15, amongst his mother’s papers, after she went back to Indonesia, leaving him with his grandparents in Hawaii...the same birth certificate he would have used to obtain a passport.

‘Somebody’ made a bad mistake putting up that invalid document on his website.

Methinks the Dems know exactly what the problem is: So it’s got to be a terrible, terrible RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY!

[KJC1]

Obama’s looks exactly like mine, minus personal info of course. I’ll take a look at the post you mentioned now.

[SE Mom]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/5/15947/95667/125/547039

BRAND NEW- JAY MCKINNON and “opendna” answer Israel Insider claims and all the other people who have researched the birth certificate- at Daily Kos- FreeRepublic mentioned.

Lots of rhetoric- I’ve not read it all yet.

Have at it!

[KJC1]

I don’t know diddly about resolution/pixels/yadda yadda. But I do have an idea about how to settle this matter once and for all, if Jim Robinson is so inclined:

I will send via certified mail to Jim the certified, embossed copy of my birth certificate (which is an abstract, as is Obama’s), the postmarked envelope in which it was sent from the Hawaii State Department of Health, and the receipt that was included for the purchase of this duplicate under the agreement (which he and I can arrange privately) that only limited info that I agree on is released if he chooses to post it. I live in CA now, but Fresno is too far for me to drive to make a delivery. Jim already has my personal info because I am a donor, so I am not worried about him revealing the info on my BC. I don’t know if Jim even wants to get into this, but the offer is open.

[Jet Jaguar]

I read the thread. No evidence one way or another.

[Stentor]

Have at it!

To paraphrase: I used inadequate software, am not very good at it and distributed it in a silly way so therefore, I'm not guilty of anything and was so rattled I had to go away.

[ameagle]

One of the time lines in question appears to be the Summer of 1961. (there are also many other time periods lacking any detail). Where was Stanley living? There had to have been friends in HI who would know where she was? Not sure if all these time lines are correct?

BHO Sr left his pregnant wife in Kenya and arrived in HI the fall of 1959.

There was enormous excitement when the Britannia aircraft took off for New York with the future Kenyan elite on board. After a few weeks of orientation, the students were dispatched to universities across the United States to study subjects that would help them govern Kenya after the departure of the British. Obama Sr. was interested in economics and was sent to Hawaii...

BHO Sr met Stanley in the fall of 1960.

BHO Sr & Stanley were supposedly married Feb, 1961.

BHO was born Aug 4, 1961.

BHO Sr left for Harvard, the Summer of 1962.

BHO Sr left for Harvard before Obama was 1 years old - per Obama’s website. Note: many articles have mentioned BHO being 2 years old, but it appears they've since changed that on BHO’s website.

While at Harvard, BHO Sr had written regularly to his first wife Kezia, even sending pictures of Ann and Barack Jr, per Kezia. What he failed to tell his first wife was that he had also met a second new woman, an American teacher called Ruth, or that on his return to Kenya in 1965, that Ruth had become his third wife.

Where is the info regarding Stanley's pregnancy and BHO's birth? BHO Sr was supposedly living in a dorm. Was a pregnant, married Stanley still living with her parents during the Spring and Summer of 1961? Stanley only attended the fall semester of 1960. She didn't attend the spring semester of 1961. But BHO Sr graduated at the end of the Spring semester, 1962. Where was Stanley living the Summer before Barrack's birth in Aug, 1961?

[Baladas]

Huh? So now he’s talking to himself?