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Posted on 08/14/2004 7:15:31 AM PDT by stayout
For those of you who have not been fully following the Swift Vet's story, one of Kerry's traveling entourage (David Alston) claimed he was under Kerry's command on a PBF and found Kerry to be a great leader. He even gave a speech to that effect at the Democratic National Convention, where he said the following:
I know him from a small boat in Vietnam, where we fought and bled together, serving our country. There were six of us aboard PCF-94, a 50-foot, twin-engine craft known as a "Swift Boat." We all came from different walks of life, but all of us-including our skipper, John Kerry-volunteered for combat duty. And combat is what we got.However, one intrepid blogger now has proven that to be a lie, Alston never served under Kerry because Alston was wounded and out of action before Kerry took command of Alston's boat. Here is the final bit of proof (published early this morning), I suggest you go to Captain's Quarters to find all the previous analysis leading up to this astonishing coup de gras (pass the word):
Alston Never Served Under Kerry
Thanks to reader Lori in Texas, I think we've just about pieced the record together on David Alston and his supposed service under John Kerry's command. Lori points out a sympathetic article on Dale Sandusky, one of the few Swift boat veterans supporting Kerry and one that served on his boat, specifically gives the timing on Kerry's command of PCF-94:
In January 1969, Sandusky's boat, PCF-94, came under attack during one such ambush. Lt. Ted Peck, the officer in charge, and another crewman were seriously wounded. Sandusky had to take command. The boat was sinking and on fire, but Sandusky steered it back to safety. They counted 155 bullet holes in the boat and found a live enemy rocket in the main cabin. It had come to rest in a sack of potatoes.Bingo! Yachtzee! Alston received his serious wounds in that same exact battle that took Peck out of service. On January 29th, Alston was medevaced out to a hospital with head wounds and no records indicate that he ever returned to the unit. Kerry took command of PCF-94 the next day. Alston never served a day under Kerry's command. In fact, Kerry received a replacement, Fred Short, on 28 February as a replacement for Alston.For his actions, Sandusky would receive the Bronze Star.
With their officer headed home, the crew of PCF-94 needed a leader. And Lt. j.g. John Kerry, whose crew on PCF-44 had rotated back home, needed men to lead.
"I was sure glad he came along," Sandusky said, "because to be honest, I didn't want to take command."
From Jan. 30 to March 13, 1969, Kerry and the crew of the PCF-94 would conduct 18 missions in the Mekong Delta river system. In that time, Kerry would earn a Silver Star, a Bronze Star and add two Purple Hearts to the one he received earlier.
Now what does that tell us about Kerry and his Viet Nam narrative?
1. He and Alston conspired to deceive people about Alston's service under Kerry. That conspiracy was intended to give John Kerry cover against exactly the kind of campaign he faces from the other Swiftvets.
2. The "end of January" language on Kerry's website was intentionally vague in order to fuzzy up the timeline and keep Alston's true status a secret. Obviously, Sandusky remembers the dates well enough, and Kerry could easily have gotten them from him if he wanted to be as specific as his other dates on the timeline.
3. The DNC either were saps or actively participated in the conspiracy in order to assist Kerry in his Viet Nam mythology. Otherwise, why would they have allowed David Alston to speak at the convention about his experiences serving with John Kerry on the boat?
4. Kerry's band of brothers have some complicity in this cover-up as well. Those who served on PCF-94 surely remember that Alston never served under Kerry; Sandusky specifically recalls Peck being wounded and removed from command, but he wouldn't remember that Alston left at the same time?
5. One could argue that they served on the same boat, of course, and I look forward to that Clintonian parsing used in Kerry's defense. After holding Alston up as an expert on his leadership, he'll be hard pressed to explain how that expertise came to Alston from a hospital bed miles away from Kerry and his old PCF.
If this gets out to the mainstream media, this story kills Kerry's campaign. This isn't just a guy embellishing his war record -- this is a deliberate and longstanding attempt to mislead and defraud people by creating his own witnesses after the fact. That he could have done such a clumsy job should disqualify him for higher office on that basis alone.
Posted by Captain Ed at August 14, 2004 01:25 AM
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A must read!
If the head is twisted upward or downward, or moved to the left or right, the shadows would change position and configuration according to the changing profile of the subject relative to the sun.
Easy to test that by using a flashlight in a stationary position and revolving an object below the flashlight and watching the changing shadow positions and configurations.
Yes, the shadow would move to the left if the subject moved or tilted his head to the left and down, illustrated by the shadow of the blonde guy's head in the photo.
Looks like a real photo to me. Could be wrong, of course.
WHAT is the democrats problem? Can't they nominate someone who is not psychotic? Kerry may turn out to be more delusional than Gore, if that is possible.
Kerry is a COMPLETE FAKE. There is not an atom of unembellished truth that John Kerry has exhaled in his adult life.
To quote Cicero in an oration against Cataline:
---For on this side fights modesty, on that shamelessness; on this chastity, on that wantonness; on this honour, on that fraud; on this righteousness, on that crime; on this steadfastness, on that madness; on this honesty, on that deceit; on this self-restraint, on that lust; and finally, on this side justice, temperance, prudence, all the virtues, contend with injustice, extravagance, cowardice, recklessness, all the vices; lastly abundance with poverty, good reason with bad, sanity with insanity, and finally fair hope fights against deepest despair. In a contest and battle of this kind, even if the hearts of men fail them, would not the immortal gods themselves compel these many great vices to be overwhelmed by these most notable virtues? [Cat. II, xi, 25]---
I agree..The truth and nothing but the truth...
Love the quote from Cicero!
This was discovered by a poster on FR days ago - Bandit, I believe, did this analysis then...
Was that you, Bandit?
I agree with you whole heartedly. This seems suspicious. Do a tedious investigation first.
Lt(jg) Kerry got command of PCF94 because Lt. Peck was wounded and (along with Gunners Mate Alston) medivac-ed out. It'd be pretty shallow if JF'nK went around getting his pics taken with the random crews of the squadron before he actually got a boat.
I know. I am SOooo glad to see the SwiftVets knocking him hard.
He's gonna lose November 2nd, BIG TIME !
My thanks to Traumer, Arrowhead1952 and Conspiracy Guy for the concept of the above pic
bttt
Thanks for the pics. But that last one is WAY to big. It spans THREE times my screen view setup in my IE Browser, just fyi .....
My name is David Alston, and I am a minister from Columbia, South Carolina.
[I wonder what his congregation think of these lies?]
..............SNIP..............
Once, he (Kerry) even directed the helmsman to beach the boat, right into the teeth of an ambush, and pursued our attackers on foot, into thejungle. In the toughest of situations, Lieutenant Kerry showedjudgment, loyalty and courage. Even wounded, or confronting sights noman should ever have to see, he never lost his cool.
[Well, this happen in Feb. 1969. If Alston left on Jan.29th, he didn't see this happen either.]
And when the shooting stopped, he was always there too, with acaring hand on my shoulder asking, "Gunner, are you OK?" I was only 21,running on fear and adrenaline. Lieutenant Kerry always took the timeto calm us down, to bring us back to reality, to give us hope, to showus what we truly had within ourselves. I came to love and respect himas a man I could trust with life itself.
[Paging Reality, would Reality please pick up the white courtesy phone.]
Several weeks ago I went looking for info on the Swift Boats and found a site that listed the Boats by number, and their crews by timeline. This morning I went back to verify the Alston time lines, and guess what? The server is TOAST. Anybody know if the crew rosters are available anywhere else?
No I don't think this photo is doctored.... but look at the circumstances of the picture.
You have Alston standing there in his full uniform (BDU's), while the rest of the crew is in a very relaxed state of dress.
To me it looks like the swift boat crew just came back from patrol, saw their friend Alston on the dock and said "hey, let's get a picture Alston."That is along the lines of what I was thinking about the coincidence of Alston being in that pic.
However this dilemma might get resolved, I hope someone can point me to it. Very interesting.
I don't think it's faked. It is a genuine pic that just needs to be figured out.Alston's military records should confirm and straighten this all out. Who
wants to bet Alston the liar won't release his military records ????
Just goes to prove that J *F* Kerry and his supporters are all related to Lumpi Reifenstahl.
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