FoxNews slams Military: Major Label of Sniper is "Army Vet" NOT "Islamic Sniper"

Fox News, 01:00 AM (NewsBreak)

[xzins]

This is outrageous!

The truth is that

1. Islamics blew up the World Trade Center
2. Islamics blew up a wing of the Pentagon in which many members of the ARMY died.
3. Islamics blew up the USS Cole in which US military died.
4. Islam is the issue with Al Quaeda and Bin Laden.

This man is JOHN MUHAMMED, an Islamic who was "sympathetic" to the 9/11 terrorists.

He's been out of the Army for years. He never received specialized training in sniping in the Army. He DIDN'T MAKE IT in the Army.

But the lead is: "Army Vet"

As a 20 year Army retiree, I deeply resent this, but I resent even more the politically correct culture that makes it impossible to call an islamic terrorist an islamic terrorist.

[Monty22]

Oh, it'll 'come out' like Pandilla? Who has virtually disappeared? Riiighhhttt..

[DoughtyOne]

Consider you hand shaken. I agree completely. This "stuff" turns my stomach.

[Cold Heat]

I thought it was great

So did I! I don't think it was a mistake either. I think it may have been a subtle warning.

[Monty22]

Exactly. Fred said the 100% truth, that instead of an angry white guy it turned out to be a black islamic guy.

big laffs from idiots..

Well, joke's on them, bigtime.

[Monty22]

I somehow think Moose is somehow.. complicite.. Either voluntary or not. He read their announcement when they were caught, God knows why he did that.

And I get the sense that moose wanted to give them that $10m.. I think just got the feeling he was not pleased at telling them no.

[Born on the Storm King]

Berlin Discotheque Bombing, April 5, 1986

I was a criminal investigator in that bombing.

[LibWhacker]

I don't care to get on your good side, not when your blasting me for something I never said. I want you to stop and think before you speak. I'm not your whipping boy, boy!

Oh, I'm sorry . . . Have I introduced you two?

Reagan Man, meet Travis. He's SF, a hero, a real man, and a helluva writer.

Travis, meet RM. He's a maroon and a wannabe, worthy only of your *PLONK* file.

[sneakypete]

Who told them to ask for 10 million in that way....

I suspect this was their own "idea". How many people can you discuss something like this with?

and where were they going to wire the cash?

That's the point. There is nowhere you CAN wire the cash without giving yourself away,and since it isn't REALLY "cash" (it's the promise of cash),the chances are pretty slim of you being able to draw much out without having to show up in person. It would take a LOT of time to get out $10 from a cash machine at 400 bucks a pop.

[Michael2001]

The folks you mention were insane. Muhammad had sympathy for the 9/11 hijackers and hated the US. He's an Islamic terrorist.

[eccl1212]

"wannabe, or sympathizer" YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!

Indeed. And in that respect, every islamic male, competing to be at the top of the islamic/testicular murder fest; is osama. All islamics who aspire to murder-death-kills for the sake of subjugating the "dhimmis" are al qaida. Period.

It is the islamic competition to kill infidels for the glory of allah, that defines islamic/extremist terrorist movements.

They are all one.

Osami may have NOT paid for this series of murders directly, but has inspired them to form and maintain self sustaining, self financing, self perpetuating terror cells. and as the wannabe's practice, they become the arafats of tomorrow by what they learn in the process.

The idea that we can separate the actions of one psychotic islamic extremist from the actions of the generalized group of psycho/religious killers; who apparently inspire him and offer him comfort and at times direct aid; would be ridiculous, were it not so deadly.

Islam in it's most commonly read "holy books," espouses and glorifies these types of murders. The religion and those who practice it as it is written, are all terrorists. They all follow after the path of osami, arafat, and satan... the wanton murdeorous orgy that is radical islam.

The trojan horse of "moderate" islam, contains the murderous invaders that seek to destroy us. I see very little that deliniates the REAL terrorists from the wannabes or the "moderate" muslims. less every day.

[Cold Heat]

Moose was not calling the shots. Just a HMFIC of one county.

The credit card thing was because the perps could not figure out any other way to safely get the money. It was dumb, not sophisticated at all.

What hung them was the priest. The kid confessed the alabama killing apparently. That led to the INS file and address. Boom!

The cops were just trying to keep them occupied and hope they made a mistake before they killed someone else. They would have seriously gave them the ten million, then busted them when they moved it. I'm glad it did not get that far.

That was a tough case for them and they finally got a break. Damn good police work!(commin from me, that is a hell of a compliment)

[CatAtomic]

Must say I'm surprised at the negative posts you got. My sense is that these guys are a couple of "useful idiots" who gave up easily on a future for themselves- prime recruits for endoctrination into a simplistic, victimized and resentful world view.

Al-Quaida trained? Doubt it, but it's possible. Let's remember these "cells" are nothing more than punk gangs. They talk and talk and there's really no organization except for the fact that they all have the same hate...

[sneakypete]

I maintain that while his Army training is pertinent, it is more of a footnote,

I agree. People are making too much of this. They identify him as a former soldier because it seems like this is the only steady job this guy ever had. If he had spent 10 years as a bricklayer,they would describe him as a former bricklayer.

they are constantly harping that he is an "Expert" badge holder. Anyone who knows anything about the Army realizes this is No Big Deal (TM) -

That's the point. None of them have ever served in the military,and they really DON'T know anything. They really do think qualifying as a "Expert" is a impressive feat.

[sneakypete]

My money is still on his inherent decency.

He can be decent and still be wrong. I have no doubt he really does think America would be better off as a part of a economic block of countries than as a sovereign nation,but I don't happen to agree with that.

[sneakypete]

The folks you mention were insane.

I hope you don't think these two are sane? I will grant you that greed and profit has been proven to be a part of their motivation to do this,but that doesn't mean it was the only reason.They could also have done it for thrills.

Muhammad had sympathy for the 9/11 hijackers and hated the US. He's an Islamic terrorist.

Only in the same sense as Gacey and Berkowitz were Catholic and Jewish terrorists. There are no reports yet that he was a member of Al Queida or any other radical Muslim group that is at war with the US. Until and unless proof of this is given,he is just murdering criminal scum.

[eccl1212]

deliniates = delineates

[Michael2001]

There are no reports yet that he was a member of Al Queida or any other radical Muslim group that is at war with the US. Until and unless proof of this is given,he is just murdering criminal scum.

Is that the definition of a terrorist? Must one be a member of a group to be a terrorist? This guy hated America and these killings were meant to kill and terrorize the population. He is a terrorist in my book.

If it helps you sleep thinking this was just an isolated crazy guy then so be it.

[demosthenes the elder]

a "chickenhawk"???
do I even want to know what that is?

[Caipirabob]

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Sorry friend, but I need no further convincing. If it looks like a terrorist, smells like a terrorist and mass murders innocent American civilians performing everyday routines it's a terrorist...

But I admire your patience. I'm just out of it.

[sneakypete]

If it helps you sleep thinking this was just an isolated crazy guy then so be it.

Oh,yeah. Al Queda and the other groups just scare me to death. The only thing that allows me to sleep at all is the knowledge that there are people out there like you to protect me from the bad mens.