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FoxNews slams Military: Major Label of Sniper is "Army Vet" NOT "Islamic Sniper"
Fox News, 01:00 AM (NewsBreak)
Posted on 10/24/2002 10:18:49 PM PDT by xzins
This is outrageous!
The truth is that
1. Islamics blew up the World Trade Center
2. Islamics blew up a wing of the Pentagon in which many members of the ARMY died.
3. Islamics blew up the USS Cole in which US military died.
4. Islam is the issue with Al Quaeda and Bin Laden.
This man is JOHN MUHAMMED, an Islamic who was "sympathetic" to the 9/11 terrorists.
He's been out of the Army for years. He never received specialized training in sniping in the Army. He DIDN'T MAKE IT in the Army.
But the lead is: "Army Vet"
As a 20 year Army retiree, I deeply resent this, but I resent even more the politically correct culture that makes it impossible to call an islamic terrorist an islamic terrorist.
TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: correctness; fox; islam; labels; military; political; sniper; terrorism
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To: xzins
If I'm not mistaken, Calypso Louie did visit the Middle east in recent months. But he's no terrorist, just a militant fundamentalist, who hates whitey, Jews, presidents named Bush and......., well you get the picture. =^)
To: Reagan Man
He was DISHONORABLY DISCHARGED!!!!
Do you know what it takes to get a DD today, instead of a far easier to apply 'other than hoorable' or 'general' discharge?
Try ATTEMPTED FRAGGING!!
This is like a story on a DEFROCKED PRIEST committing a heinous crime, and "forgetting" to mention he had been excommunicated years before, and just saying "Priest Robs Bank".
It burns me every time they show this slime, and the next frame shows soldiers training, equating the two.
Have you seen a single picture on TV of the Nation of Islam mosque where he "worshipped" and got tanked up on murderous rage and hate?
To: cryptical
Shame on you for saying it, then...! ;)
(crossed our minds, must say...not a joking matter, but what the he**, why not...this one seems to over, thank heaven!)
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posted on
10/24/2002 11:08:10 PM PDT
by
88keys
To: xzins
He threw a grenade into an occupied room, not certain if it was inert, a "joke", a threat, a dud or what.
You almost have to commit murder to get a DD today, especially an African American, the military is very PC sensitive.
To: Travis McGee
I feel your pain, man.
Seriously, I undertstand what your saying, just stop jumping on my shit. okay.
To: xzins
But the lead is: "Army Vet"
As a 20 year Army retiree, I deeply resent this, but I resent even more the politically correct culture that makes it impossible to call an islamic terrorist an islamic terrorist. I wouldn't worry about it too much. The leftist media (But I repeat myself) is going to have *a lot* of trouble spinning this that way. They've been trying ever since Oswald shot Kennedy (I remember the posters saying "The Marine Corps Builds Oswalds"). It didn't stick then, and it won't stick now.
The guy took up Islam, changed his name to Mohammed, and started sniping people after Al Quaeda declared war on civilization. *That's* what's going to stick - and the media can keep spinning until they burn up from the friction (I should live to see that...), and they won't change the public perception in that regard one bit.
In this case, the inherent simplicity of the average person's outlook on things will work in our favor, not against us...
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posted on
10/24/2002 11:11:49 PM PDT
by
fire_eye
To: The Red Zone
So finally....we can admit we were gassed!!
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posted on
10/24/2002 11:11:51 PM PDT
by
xzins
To: WOSG
He is a terrorist. He is Islamic.
Therefor he is an Islamic terrorist.
John Wayne Gacey was a Catholic. Was he a "Catholic terrorist"
The "Son of Sam" (Berkowitz) is Jewish. Is he a "Jewish terrorist"?
To: xzins
FWIW, Fox is strongly in Bush's camp, from news-head Roger Ailes on down.
For months they've dismissed most Islamic terrorist connections. I assume this is at Bush's request.
Something about getting ducks in a row, I'm hoping.
To: Travis McGee
This is like a story on a DEFROCKED PRIEST committing a heinous crime, and "forgetting" to mention he had been excommunicated years before, and just saying "Priest Robs Bank". It burns me every time they show this slime, and the next frame shows soldiers training, equating the two. Have you seen a single picture on TV of the Nation of Islam mosque where he "worshipped" and got tanked up on murderous rage and hate?
Those, my friend, are AWESOME debating points. Hope some talk radio dude is reading you tonight.
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posted on
10/24/2002 11:13:58 PM PDT
by
xzins
To: Reagan Man
I have seen TV stories with John Mohammed interspersed with film of current soldiers shooting rifles in training 7,853 times since yesterday. As if he just got out of his Army uniform last month.
YEARS AGO he was DISHONORABLY DISCHARGED!! KICKED OUT!! ADIOS!! GIT!! VAMMMOOOOSE!!!!
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I have seen ZERO ZIP NADA pictures on TV of the mosques which screamed HATE WHITE AMERICA into his ear weekly for years.
To: Kerberos
I particularly liked it when the gal from NPR, whose name I can't remember, started to put her liberal slant on it, Fred shut her down pretty quick. You saw that too? She got that deer in the headlights look real quick. There's a time for politics and a time for rational discourse. Civil, yes -- but the hard lefty "spin" just ain't gonna fly anymore -- too many people have died for that kind of nonsense anymore. And she knows it.
To: xzins
5. And the total plan: random murder, money transfer, extortion is pretty sophisticated for someone who was sleeping in a junky car at a reststop. I think "eat up with the dumbass" is a better descriptino than "sophisticated". These guys ain't smart enough to qualify as "morons". Not a single chance in hell of them ever being able to draw a single dollar out without giving away their location. When they do this,they die. I'm stunned that anybody that stupid is even able to dress themselves.
To: Reagan Man
Seriously, I undertstand what your saying, just stop jumping on my shit. okay.Sorry bud, you want to play sissy tiddlywinks, go to another forum. Say stupid crap that spits on the military, and I WILL jump on your $#!+.
That's how it is on FR, don't like it, "GOOD BYE."
To: Dr. Eckleburg
I'm on Bush's side, but if "diplomacy" keeps him from being outraged at some of this garbage, then maybe he's hoping we'll do the Angry American thing for him...on his behalf so he can tell us not to be "too angry at DemonRat pacifism/inepticism!"
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posted on
10/24/2002 11:20:05 PM PDT
by
xzins
To: Reagan Man; xzins
Reagan Man, being "patient" is something that is not one of my strong points anymore(least not this point in time). Until I see a vast uprising of
real muslim's going after their own; weeding out the infection, I will not be satisfied at this point. I understand that muslims did weed out their own recently and resulted in 6 arrests. I want more. And the MUSLIM community better make it happen. If not, I'm just as afraid of them now as I was on 9/12. And that doesn't help them in my neck of the woods...
xzins, Thank you for your service. 20 yrs is awe inspiring.
Semper Fi.
Mike
To: sneakypete
John Mohammed told almost everyone he met that he hated America, was proud of the 9-11 hijackers, and hoped America got some more of that.
He formally changed his name to Mohammed AFTER 9-11.
He was a "security guard" (ahem) for Looie Farrakan's Nation of Islam M M March.
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To: xzins
To: sneakypete
Who told them to ask for 10 million in that way....and where were they going to wire the cash?
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posted on
10/24/2002 11:22:27 PM PDT
by
xzins
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